M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

[Chaqa]

Again, if you're actually town, you spent the day trying to kill someone you thought was town and lying about why. You deserve to be scumread for that.

Except that isn’t why people were scum reading me. That isn’t what got 10 of y’all to throw cautioun to the wind and try to vote out a top poster for the jasnah wagon when there were EIGHT OTHER PEOPLE also on ti.

Why was I the target? If you all hated the jasnah wagon that much why not vote any of the others on it? I mean, worcej got votes too, fair. But the entire lead up to and resins for voting me were the epitome of everything I hate about how people here play

I voted you because you want to waste two days killing Jasnah and Bunny and when I called you about it you said another thing. I know bad play isn't always scumplay and that's why I didn't scumread Jamiet that much on it. But trying to look like you didn't say what you actually said is scummy.

And you can be really towny and not get killed, like last mini game where you were alive at kilo and we won and I voted you for MVP so I really don't buy this "people always scum read me without a reason" you are pushing.

WTF I NEVER WANTED TO VOTE THEM BOTH OUT

It’s like you guys don’t even read what I write

[President Eden]

One thing that strikes me about Eden this game is that he's being all pleasant and nice like. He was quite the obnoxious fuck in the last game I played with him (M68, town). Do you think this is a potential tell of his, based on your experience with him?

Lol that was just you, to my recollection, and I did have some... confounding factors, you could say, that have since been eliminated. Chaqa can vouch that I have been a lot more "pleasant and nice like" for the last 2-3 weeks across the board.

@Chaq - very little of that addresses the core complaints, and none of it addresses the most important issue, which is your fakeclaim. If we cloned you this game and made the clone town, it would be screaming from the heavens about how we have to vote you out for the fakeclaim.

All of that is about everything leading up to the claim.

Not anything since.

I should not have been in that position to begin with

So... what, are we not supposed to suspect you because we didn't have "good" reasoning behind the push that gave us good reasoning? You don't have a Fourth Amendment here buddy

And I don't agree with your premise in any case, but even taking it as a given, this sounds less like criticism of us getting it wrong and more like criticism about us stumbling into getting it right.

[ghug]

And actually, to further add to that, I haven't rolled mafia since a minigame in spring 2018 when Ezio was my partner and we did some fun shit. My town game has changed a lot just since my return to playing this year. I have no idea if I would be this way as mafia or how I would act. And I don't think Among Us translates very well because I mostly get caught on cadence, tonal issues, and facts in the game rather than behavioral tells that would show up in writing. So maybe I would be all pleasant and nice like as mafia, idk

Oh fuck that game so hard.

[snowy801]

I'm playing VDL and the conversation has turned to stellaris

Tell them about the trick where you strip your corvettes of weapons at the start of the game and they'll be so impressed they'll listen to anything you say

[ghug]

Lol that was just you, to my recollection, and I did have some... confounding factors, you could say, that have since been eliminated. Chaqa can vouch that I have been a lot more "pleasant and nice like" for the last 2-3 weeks across the board.

@Chaq - very little of that addresses the core complaints, and none of it addresses the most important issue, which is your fakeclaim. If we cloned you this game and made the clone town, it would be screaming from the heavens about how we have to vote you out for the fakeclaim.

All of that is about everything leading up to the claim.

Not anything since.

I should not have been in that position to begin with

So... what, are we not supposed to suspect you because we didn't have "good" reasoning behind the push that gave us good reasoning? You don't have a Fourth Amendment here buddy

And I don't agree with your premise in any case, but even taking it as a given, this sounds less like criticism of us getting it wrong and more like criticism about us stumbling into getting it right.

Eh, I think that's conf bias. This exchange is pushing me a bit towards actually believing he's town.

[Bonatogether]

I'm playing VDL and the conversation has turned to stellaris

Tell them about the trick where you strip your corvettes of weapons at the start of the game and they'll be so impressed they'll listen to anything you say

they're actually good at the game, unlike me. i'm only good at ck2

[President Eden]

I'm playing VDL and the conversation has turned to stellaris

Tell them about the trick where you strip your corvettes of weapons at the start of the game and they'll be so impressed they'll listen to anything you say

this is literally why I first listened to you, and I've never been led astray

[Chaqa]

Lol that was just you, to my recollection, and I did have some... confounding factors, you could say, that have since been eliminated. Chaqa can vouch that I have been a lot more "pleasant and nice like" for the last 2-3 weeks across the board.

@Chaq - very little of that addresses the core complaints, and none of it addresses the most important issue, which is your fakeclaim. If we cloned you this game and made the clone town, it would be screaming from the heavens about how we have to vote you out for the fakeclaim.

All of that is about everything leading up to the claim.

Not anything since.

I should not have been in that position to begin with

So... what, are we not supposed to suspect you because we didn't have "good" reasoning behind the push that gave us good reasoning? You don't have a Fourth Amendment here buddy

And I don't agree with your premise in any case, but even taking it as a given, this sounds less like criticism of us getting it wrong and more like criticism about us stumbling into getting it right.

God it’s like you reach the wrong conclusions on purpose

Remember the discussion we had on me and connotation?

Applu it here

[President Eden]

All of that is about everything leading up to the claim.

Not anything since.

I should not have been in that position to begin with

So... what, are we not supposed to suspect you because we didn't have "good" reasoning behind the push that gave us good reasoning? You don't have a Fourth Amendment here buddy

And I don't agree with your premise in any case, but even taking it as a given, this sounds less like criticism of us getting it wrong and more like criticism about us stumbling into getting it right.

Eh, I think that's conf bias. This exchange is pushing me a bit towards actually believing he's town.

To the contrary. I mention the Fourth Amendment for a reason, this sounds like a guy complaining that the arresting agent that found a brick of cocaine in his apartment misheard "Coca-Cola" as "cocaine" on the wiretap. He's not arguing that we shouldn't be suspicious of him for his fakeclaim, but that he should never have been in a position to fakeclaim because we made a mistake earlier. In the real world we might value process enough to cut him a break, in mafia no chance brother

[snowy801]

tbh Chaqa isn't upvoting my posts anymore which means there's no more reason to suffer his existence

[kgray]

It's so weird to like Jamiet's game for once. I don't think this has ever happened before

What do you like about it?

[snowy801]

It's so weird to like Jamiet's game for once. I don't think this has ever happened before

What do you like about it?

It's very topical and inquisitive. He's also not turning every conversation to himself, but staying on course to get the answers to his very reasonable questions out effectively.

He's also not insulting people left and right, and aside from that one time he started complaining about people misconstruing the "kill Jasnah" camp's argument he's been both pleasant and sharp to deal with.

[President Eden]

Alright I'm gonna shoot aliens, I'll try to be back before EON but I think I've said what needs saying. Later losers \m/

[Jamiet99uk]

So... what, are we not supposed to suspect you because we didn't have "good" reasoning behind the push that gave us good reasoning? You don't have a Fourth Amendment here buddy

And I don't agree with your premise in any case, but even taking it as a given, this sounds less like criticism of us getting it wrong and more like criticism about us stumbling into getting it right.

God it’s like you reach the wrong conclusions on purpose

Remember the discussion we had on me and connotation?

Applu it here

I'm not entirely following this.

[kgray]

All I’m saying is we have now had people say:

“Active Chaqa is scum Chaqa”
“Active Chaqa is town Chaqa”
“Lurking Chaqa is scum Chaqa”
“Lurking Chaqa is town Chaqa”

Over the course of the last… three months or so

Apparently nuance is also a tell.

And not spelling out every exact detail on my ghug reads

Or changing reads

Or trying to live

Gee it’s almost like no one actually knows how to read me

Like I’ve been saying for months and months

Eden knows this and is either deliberately going against everything he ever tells me about how I play mafia or he is scum

Again, if you're actually town, you spent the day trying to kill someone you thought was town and lying about why. You deserve to be scumread for that.

Sorry can you link me to where someone talks about Chaqa lying about why he wanted to kill (presumably) Jasnah?

[Chaqa]

tbh Chaqa isn't upvoting my posts anymore which means there's no more reason to suffer his existence

Service is bad, haven’t been able to get them as much atm

[kgray]

Which do you think it is on balance?

Wish I knew. I can’t read Eden for shit

One thing that strikes me about Eden this game is that he's being all pleasant and nice like. He was quite the obnoxious fuck in the last game I played with him (M68, town). Do you think this is a potential tell of his, based on your experience with him?

I think he's been plenty obnoxious

[snowy801]

Wish I knew. I can’t read Eden for shit

One thing that strikes me about Eden this game is that he's being all pleasant and nice like. He was quite the obnoxious fuck in the last game I played with him (M68, town). Do you think this is a potential tell of his, based on your experience with him?

I think he's been plenty obnoxious

I won't lie kgray when I saw your argument with him about avoiding questions and whatnot I was almost entirely with him. I'd give you specifics but it all fades in my mind

[BunnyGo]

So... what, are we not supposed to suspect you because we didn't have "good" reasoning behind the push that gave us good reasoning? You don't have a Fourth Amendment here buddy

And I don't agree with your premise in any case, but even taking it as a given, this sounds less like criticism of us getting it wrong and more like criticism about us stumbling into getting it right.

Eh, I think that's conf bias. This exchange is pushing me a bit towards actually believing he's town.

To the contrary. I mention the Fourth Amendment for a reason, this sounds like a guy complaining that the arresting agent that found a brick of cocaine in his apartment misheard "Coca-Cola" as "cocaine" on the wiretap. He's not arguing that we shouldn't be suspicious of him for his fakeclaim, but that he should never have been in a position to fakeclaim because we made a mistake earlier. In the real world we might value process enough to cut him a break, in mafia no chance brother

I’m still digging the fake retraction to give the scum team WIFOM tonight.

[Fluminator]

I don't think I've ever felt so comfortable and at ease with a ghug day 1 performance. He's probably scum. (This isn't even really a joke)

I mean, that's a better reason to scumread me than most people's, but nobody else seems to be comfortable and at ease with my day 1. Why are you?

Durga is the only one who's mentioned scumreading you I think. There are bigger suspects right now though.