M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

[Jamiet99uk]

I am confident after the recent pages that BunnyGo is the genuine article. If the BG wagon rightfully dissolves, then we can consider whether it's worth trying to find a better target than jasnah (who I think plausibly could have fakeclaimed as town), but as long as it's jasnah vs BunnyGo, I'm voting jasnah and it's not particularly close.

If we actually do look elsewhere then I'd like to look at Durga. She's taken a reactive posture that's uncharacteristic of her town play, and I can't shake the nagging feeling that her comment that jasnah was "obviously faking" came from the mindset of someone who knows who is and isn't mafia.

But I'm not going to go there as long as jasnah vs BunnyGo is the wagon. And I cannot emphasize enough that we should not kill both of them.

How would scum!Durga know jasnah was "obviously faking" if jasnah is town? Durga would have no idea who the miller is. And why would scum!Durga defend her teammate jasnah?

To be more precise, Durga's post indicated that she immediately believed that jasnah was both town and fakeclaiming. That obviously means BG is the genuine Miller and is also town. Reaching a conclusion that one is genuine and one is fakeclaiming obviously doesn't indicate anything (one of them has to be, and there's no inherent reason why quickly deciding that jasnah was the fakeclaimer is suspicious). Reaching the conclusion that both of them are town, that quickly, may indicate foreknowledge that both were town, which Durga would have if she were mafia.

It's not a 100% logical proof and of course you're free to disagree with my suspicion that she reached that conclusion due to foreknowledge from being mafia. But it isn't that she knew which Miller claim was fake, but rather that she believed both were town.

I think there's a flaw in this argument but I'm going to wait and see if Durga has replied to it.

(I'm about 11 pages back...)

[Jamiet99uk]

You're reaction with jasnah was sus but also trying to balance out the votes.

So that’s like saying you think I’m lying about it all, and just in case you’re wrong at least the wagons are balanced?

If it makes you feel better I will ##VOTE BONA

Definitely unwilling to vote Jasnah eh?

[Jamiet99uk]

Observations so far:

Sabi as vocal newb very likely town
PE obvtown
Durga TV
Jamie absent
Worcej strangely makes his list announcement redundant by it's very announcement (could be a dk candidate)
Flum scum or bad
Doom ?
Chaqa tad off
Tfb suspicious
Kgray likely town

Rest: playing to meta

Damo, why were you voting kgray if you read her as town?

The quote is doctored. You trying to catch me out?

@Fluminator needs to respond to this.

Pretty scummy to try to frame Damo that way.

[Jamiet99uk]

Observations so far:

Sabi as vocal newb very likely town
PE obvtown
Durga TV
Jamie absent
Worcej strangely makes his list announcement redundant by it's very announcement (could be a dk candidate)
Flum scum or bad
Doom ?
Chaqa tad off
Tfb suspicious
Kgray likely town

Rest: playing to meta

Damo, why were you voting kgray if you read her as town?

I'm scary

Interesting you didn't notice that Fluminator was lying here.

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm like halfway caught up but posting this for my thoughts at the moment.

We vote out jasnah and then Bunny. Anyone on other wagons is being egotistical and we can hunt down anyone being weird during all of this after those two are handled.

Yes.

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm like halfway caught up but posting this for my thoughts at the moment.

We vote out jasnah and then Bunny. Anyone on other wagons is being egotistical and we can hunt down anyone being weird during all of this after those two are handled.

Chaqa, when you catch up, I'd like to know where you were when you wrote this (in the thread, not in the fake life you've concocted for webDip).

Ouch.

Ghug you're so mean.

[Jamiet99uk]

Durga's response here to PE would fit trying to back peddle after her slip too.

gtfo what slip

The potential slip by her immediate reaction of jasnah’s claim.

It’s entirely plausible she could fuck up and say with so much certainty that jasnah was fake claiming.

This makes zero sense. How would scum!Durga know the identity of the Miller?

[Jamiet99uk]

How do people feel about Vecna's case on Jamiet? Seems a little flimsy, yeah?

He didn't make a case beyond saying I had "failed to make an impression". It's very flimsy indeed.

[Jamiet99uk]

The votes on me are awful

Amazing how this wagon on you just evaporated after you said this.

[BunnyGo]

gtfo what slip

The potential slip by her immediate reaction of jasnah’s claim.

It’s entirely plausible she could fuck up and say with so much certainty that jasnah was fake claiming.

This makes zero sense. How would scum!Durga know the identity of the Miller?

This has been answered repeatedly.

[damo666]

The only reason I’m not pushing to 50/50 jasnah and Bunny is the Oracle.

Failing those two… maybe no kill? Xd

##Vote worcej

The oracle play to confirm the other of us is only guaranteed to work if jasnah or I die today...

The Oracle can’t reveal anyone today, they have to enter their order at night first. So we should hold one of you til tomorrow

WHAT????

[Vecna]

What do you think of the notion that Kgray can read you very well, damo?

[Jamiet99uk]

I think I'm supposed to like the worcej wagon based on the names on it... but I don't. Kind of makes me wonder what I got wrong.

I think I get where Boat is coming from although I disagree. And Durga is sheeping snowy, which is fair enough I guess. So I suppose this is directed to snowy and Chaqa, why worcej?

Chaqa's vote is particularly perplexing, as the only reason he doesn't want to kill both jasnah and Bunny is because the Oracle allows us to learn one of their identities... but that only works if we vote one off, yet Chaqa is on neither of them, and in fact on the wagon that happens to be the strongest contender besides either of them. Surely you should be voting jasnah here Chaq?

Why did you scare everyone off of the worcej wagon? worcej wants to DK jasnah and BunnyGo, even though he immediately believed BunnyGo's miller claim.

This is a sharp post from Bozo.

[Jamiet99uk]

Lame!
##Vote Flyingboat

Although tbh, I do like your super fast changed mind on Bunnygo

##VOTE FlyingFluminator

Oh no, now Bozo is displaying a sense of humour.

What is going on?

[Jamiet99uk]

We haven’t really met. Do you think I’m making a deep scum play here? Do you just not like me? Do you think I’m not the Miller?

The weird part is, bunny really isnt acting like the miller either

Yeah, this is nagging at me, but he's now the only claimant.

If there is another Miller out there, you need to claim ASAP.

Where did Jasnah retract?

Quote the post or at least the page number?

[Jamiet99uk]

We haven’t really met. Do you think I’m making a deep scum play here? Do you just not like me? Do you think I’m not the Miller?

The weird part is, bunny really isnt acting like the miller either

What do you mean? I'm up early. Got my flour to distribute. Today was grinding corn.

Hahaha, fun post.

Here is footage of BunnyGo hard at work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsj29y7URNk

[Vecna]

TBH it would have been useful to town that I become clear, subsequently everyone can vote the mafia I'm on and we easily win.

If Bunnygo is a town, he played really bad here, because town is guaranteed to win once it's accepted that I'm conf PR, doesn't matter what role DemonRHK wants to think I am

Not a literal retraction, but the insinuation is quite clear.

[Vecna]

And its funny to me that Chaqa still didnt pick up on it either, and that noone cared to point it out to him specifically.

[Jamiet99uk]

Well I think I'm caught up.

Still happy to keep my vote on Jasnah until Jasnah decides to show up and address all of this.

Fluminator is also highly suspect.

[Jamiet99uk]

TBH it would have been useful to town that I become clear, subsequently everyone can vote the mafia I'm on and we easily win.

If Bunnygo is a town, he played really bad here, because town is guaranteed to win once it's accepted that I'm conf PR, doesn't matter what role DemonRHK wants to think I am

Not a literal retraction, but the insinuation is quite clear.

Bearing in mind the Miller isn't really a PR because it's somewhat negative-utility, I read this to mean "I'm such a badass that I'm a Power Role as any role, hur hur", not so much a retraction.