M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

[Chaqa]

Was their any indication or something I missed about why everyone hopped off the worcej wagon?

Worcej made a face and suddenly everyone on his wagon found reasons to move their vote.

Bit weird really.

Does anyone remember who was on that wagon? Because I'm curious if that face was scum signal or not... Maybe I'm grasping at straws but it's weird....

##VOTE worcej

And Sabi has townslipped.

Noice

[BesharamSabi]

Worcej made a face and suddenly everyone on his wagon found reasons to move their vote.

Bit weird really.

Does anyone remember who was on that wagon? Because I'm curious if that face was scum signal or not... Maybe I'm grasping at straws but it's weird....

##VOTE worcej

And Sabi has townslipped.

Noice

What does townslipped mean (is that good or bad)

[kgray]

I don't really like jasnah as a wagon. I can't see any reason for her to do what she did as scum. It doesn't make much sense as town either, but I think scum are less likely to make plays that draw that much negative attention and votes to themselves. I disliked that ghug implied it's an NAI bad play.

I don't understand the Flum wagon. I think his nonsense is just Flum being Flum, and not scummy. I kind of expected Durga to shoot it down more than she did.

I do think ghug's entrance to the game was scummy, but I can't remember a time that I've been town and haven't suspected him D1 after my first game with him.

I'd love to vote Eden because I think the way he dismissed my questioning of him as 'bad faith' was pretty terrible (and whether he's a dick or scum is tbd) and he never explained why he was changing his mind about Durga, but 1) I don't want to interact with him anymore and 2) people I trust are townreading him.

I'm pretty convinced Bunny is the Miller and disagree that he should be killed just because he's part of a CC battle.

I think TFB is being very calculated but maybe that's just his personality and not him watching what he says because he's scum.

[snowy801]

Was their any indication or something I missed about why everyone hopped off the worcej wagon?

Worcej made a face and suddenly everyone on his wagon found reasons to move their vote.

Bit weird really.

Does anyone remember who was on that wagon? Because I'm curious if that face was scum signal or not... Maybe I'm grasping at straws but it's weird....

##VOTE worcej

You can check who was on what wagons on peterbot at any time.

Regardless, it was me, Durga, TFB, Chaqa in that order.

What makes you think scum had a signal when they haven't had a night to discuss it yet?

[kgray]

Why do you (and you Jamie) think this is a "framing" rather than an interrogation trick?

I think it's suspect because since he did it, Fluminatingboat has not mentioned it again or addressed Damo at all, despite Damo having responded, and Flum talking about other things.

That's not true lol. Damo only just responded now and I just saw it this morning. There's a lot of irony here that you're making things up.

Also I'm getting more and more certain this is scum damo and he keeps trying to ignore me while limply calling me scum so I figured I'd get his attention another way.

Why'd you scumread damo in the first place? Can you answer that now?

[kgray]

The Flum wagon is not as hot as you think; the Bot is mistakenly picking up votes for "FlyingBoat" as votes for "Fluminator", so that wagon actually has two fewer votes on it than the Peterbot is currently showing.

There is no Worcej wagon anymore. Its sudden disappearance is slightly weird.

Does the Ghug wagon interest you at all?

Was their any indication or something I missed about why everyone hopped off the worcej wagon?

Worcej made a face and suddenly everyone on his wagon found reasons to move their vote.

Bit weird really.

Not really, I think Eden calling it out is more of what made it disappear?

[BesharamSabi]

Worcej made a face and suddenly everyone on his wagon found reasons to move their vote.

Bit weird really.

Does anyone remember who was on that wagon? Because I'm curious if that face was scum signal or not... Maybe I'm grasping at straws but it's weird....

##VOTE worcej

You can check who was on what wagons on peterbot at any time.

Regardless, it was me, Durga, TFB, Chaqa in that order.

What makes you think scum had a signal when they haven't had a night to discuss it yet?

Why did the emoji make you jump off his wagon? Or was it a different reason?

[worcej]

I'm inclined to feel the implication of "lazy" is "lazy town", but I imagine it could be used either way. Do you feel Durga is being lazy because she's complacent and can't be arsed, or is she doing it as scum?

In Durga's case, it's a data point. She isn't worth a D1 kill because of it, but it does strike me as odd to be so adamant about no killing yet not putting in enough effort that comes off as her own thoughts.

[Durga]

Was their any indication or something I missed about why everyone hopped off the worcej wagon?

Worcej made a face and suddenly everyone on his wagon found reasons to move their vote.

Bit weird really.

Does anyone remember who was on that wagon? Because I'm curious if that face was scum signal or not... Maybe I'm grasping at straws but it's weird....

##VOTE worcej

Well, Sabi is probably town at least

[worcej]

I'm inclined to feel the implication of "lazy" is "lazy town", but I imagine it could be used either way. Do you feel Durga is being lazy because she's complacent and can't be arsed, or is she doing it as scum?

naw he just hates me and always says this no matter what i do

Personal distaste for you has nothing to do with the observation that you're being lazy in the game.

And this is a bad example - I've disliked you and solidly townread you numerous times.

[Durga]

That post doesn't mention the JOAT ability, which is the part I thought was a new idea.

Ah, I see. You think that we should kill Jasnah and Bunny and the JOAT should use the Autopsy on one of them? (To let the Oracle do something else).

Yes that could be a plan.

Yes. What did you think I meant?

I think I'm going to have to start writing more like Eden does with extreme lawyer-speak lol

Please don't it's hella convoluted - and this is coming from a lawyer

[snowy801]

Does anyone remember who was on that wagon? Because I'm curious if that face was scum signal or not... Maybe I'm grasping at straws but it's weird....

##VOTE worcej

You can check who was on what wagons on peterbot at any time.

Regardless, it was me, Durga, TFB, Chaqa in that order.

What makes you think scum had a signal when they haven't had a night to discuss it yet?

Why did the emoji make you jump off his wagon? Or was it a different reason?

I was never committed to the worcej wagon, and neither emoji nor Eden had anything to do with my moving.

[BunnyGo]

So what have I missed? (I'm still catching up but I'm tired)

Nothing much. But maybe you can read some psychological stuff into the nothingness. I can't.

OK so here's what I think is happening:

Worcej wagon is as dead as the people on the Oregon trail
Jasnah wagon may or may not being d1 kill due to last of response
Flum wagon is the hottest new wagon since the station wagon.

Am I wrong?

In terms of the "tactics" of the voting. I don't think you're wrong, and I love your phrasing.

I think the worcej wagon may still have legs. The Flum wagon I think will dissipate. But who knows, just us discussing this publicly could change the results.

What was hard for me to appreciate is how much of this game really is setting up thoughts for future days. Trying to get in people's heads so that later we can look for people who "knew too much". I don't know how it will work with no physical cues (forum based) and no reveals.

[Chaqa]

Does anyone remember who was on that wagon? Because I'm curious if that face was scum signal or not... Maybe I'm grasping at straws but it's weird....

##VOTE worcej

And Sabi has townslipped.

Noice

What does townslipped mean (is that good or bad)

It's good. You're basically near confirmed town in my eyes at this point.

[BesharamSabi]

You can check who was on what wagons on peterbot at any time.

Regardless, it was me, Durga, TFB, Chaqa in that order.

What makes you think scum had a signal when they haven't had a night to discuss it yet?

Why did the emoji make you jump off his wagon? Or was it a different reason?

I was never committed to the worcej wagon, and neither emoji nor Eden had anything to do with my moving.

So why the move to the flum wagon? Unless that was a vote for the flying boat or just a joke vote. I'm just trying to understand.

[worcej]

I think I'm supposed to like the worcej wagon based on the names on it... but I don't. Kind of makes me wonder what I got wrong.

I think I get where Boat is coming from although I disagree. And Durga is sheeping snowy, which is fair enough I guess. So I suppose this is directed to snowy and Chaqa, why worcej?

Chaqa's vote is particularly perplexing, as the only reason he doesn't want to kill both jasnah and Bunny is because the Oracle allows us to learn one of their identities... but that only works if we vote one off, yet Chaqa is on neither of them, and in fact on the wagon that happens to be the strongest contender besides either of them. Surely you should be voting jasnah here Chaq?

Why did you scare everyone off of the worcej wagon? worcej wants to DK jasnah and BunnyGo, even though he immediately believed BunnyGo's miller claim.

The only reason I say to kill BG is because when it comes down to end-game, if he's still alive, his slot will be a distraction that scum can utilize to buy more time.

[Chaqa]

I don't really like jasnah as a wagon. I can't see any reason for her to do what she did as scum. It doesn't make much sense as town either, but I think scum are less likely to make plays that draw that much negative attention and votes to themselves. I disliked that ghug implied it's an NAI bad play.

I don't understand the Flum wagon. I think his nonsense is just Flum being Flum, and not scummy. I kind of expected Durga to shoot it down more than she did.

I do think ghug's entrance to the game was scummy, but I can't remember a time that I've been town and haven't suspected him D1 after my first game with him.

I'd love to vote Eden because I think the way he dismissed my questioning of him as 'bad faith' was pretty terrible (and whether he's a dick or scum is tbd) and he never explained why he was changing his mind about Durga, but 1) I don't want to interact with him anymore and 2) people I trust are townreading him.

I'm pretty convinced Bunny is the Miller and disagree that he should be killed just because he's part of a CC battle.

I think TFB is being very calculated but maybe that's just his personality and not him watching what he says because he's scum.

FWIW, that struck me as a very on-brand thing for Eden to do. He probably wasn't trying to be a dick, he's just drawn that way. A lot of times he'll just shrug off or ignore a conversation, topic, or line of thought because he dismisses it outright if it doesn't track logically to him.

[BesharamSabi]

Nothing much. But maybe you can read some psychological stuff into the nothingness. I can't.

OK so here's what I think is happening:

Worcej wagon is as dead as the people on the Oregon trail
Jasnah wagon may or may not being d1 kill due to last of response
Flum wagon is the hottest new wagon since the station wagon.

Am I wrong?

In terms of the "tactics" of the voting. I don't think you're wrong, and I love your phrasing.

I think the worcej wagon may still have legs. The Flum wagon I think will dissipate. But who knows, just us discussing this publicly could change the results.

What was hard for me to appreciate is how much of this game really is setting up thoughts for future days. Trying to get in people's heads so that later we can look for people who "knew too much". I don't know how it will work with no physical cues (forum based) and no reveals.

Thanks I try. It's just odd that everyone on worcej wagon either went to flume (or mistakenly tfb) or ghug. Just very odd. Hmmm

[Durga]

@kgray I agree the flum wagon is dumb but he hasn't given any reads and I don't feel the need to defend him yet because a little bit of pressure might help him do that.

[Chaqa]

Ah, I see. You think that we should kill Jasnah and Bunny and the JOAT should use the Autopsy on one of them? (To let the Oracle do something else).

Yes that could be a plan.

Yes. What did you think I meant?

I think I'm going to have to start writing more like Eden does with extreme lawyer-speak lol

Please don't it's hella convoluted - and this is coming from a lawyer

Maybe I'll start writing all my posts in pseudocode