M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

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Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

#11081 Post by Chaqa » Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:01 pm

##Vote rivera
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Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

#11082 Post by snowy801 » Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:15 pm

Doom427 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 12:26 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:40 am
@Doom,

Why do you think, if ghug is in fact the oracle fake-retracting to hide his PRness, it's important to find that out by day killing him?
I don't really think Ghug is oracle fake claiming, I said that mostly as a joke.
Is your vote also a joke? If not, why's that?
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#11083 Post by snowy801 » Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:15 pm

I miss waking up to 10 pages of morning posts
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Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

#11084 Post by BunnyGo » Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:18 pm

OK, a thought about when (and if) we voluntarily kill the oracle for information:

We still have (probably) at least 4 miskills, maybe 5 (I think worst case is 3 if bozo was doctor). The longer we delay, the less information we need. For example:

If I die, no serious need to oracle Jasnah.

If worcej dies, no need to oracle bozo (except if curious about him being GF for non-guilty scans)

Etc. Etc.

So, I suggest we continue delaying any oracle reveal/death for a while longer to force the scum team to EITHER show us stuff by their choices, OR continue not revealing at which point we can oracle what we need.
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Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

#11085 Post by BunnyGo » Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:21 pm

@snowy Can you summarize for me your vote on vecna in 100 words or less?
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#11086 Post by snowy801 » Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:23 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:21 pm
@snowy Can you summarize for me your vote on vecna in 100 words or less?
Vecna is better than this. I think.

How's that for a short summary?
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Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

#11087 Post by BunnyGo » Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:26 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:23 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:21 pm
@snowy Can you summarize for me your vote on vecna in 100 words or less?
Vecna is better than this. I think.

How's that for a short summary?
I didn't expect you to get anywhere close to 100 words.

What do you think of his extenuating circumstances?

Do you think a team of bozo/Tom/Vecna/??? does the NKs/RBs we've been seeing?
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Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

#11088 Post by Doom427 » Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:30 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:15 pm
Doom427 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 12:26 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:40 am
@Doom,

Why do you think, if ghug is in fact the oracle fake-retracting to hide his PRness, it's important to find that out by day killing him?
I don't really think Ghug is oracle fake claiming, I said that mostly as a joke.
Is your vote also a joke? If not, why's that?
Mostly on the discussion during early night yesterday. PE argued that on Day 2, anyone who voted for Tom after the two counterclaims were likely Town. That leaves the following group of people-

jasnah
Jamie
rivera
Doom
PE
​ghug
Sabi

I then said I was pushing for Tom day 3 to be the kill, and that should clear me of suspicion. Taking out others who were pushing tom day 3, we were left with the final group of-

jasnah
Jamie
ghug
Sab​i

And I decided to vote for Ghug.
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Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

#11089 Post by BunnyGo » Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:34 pm

Doom427 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:30 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:15 pm
Doom427 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 12:26 pm


I don't really think Ghug is oracle fake claiming, I said that mostly as a joke.
Is your vote also a joke? If not, why's that?
Mostly on the discussion during early night yesterday. PE argued that on Day 2, anyone who voted for Tom after the two counterclaims were likely Town. That leaves the following group of people-

jasnah
Jamie
rivera
Doom
PE
​ghug
Sabi

I then said I was pushing for Tom day 3 to be the kill, and that should clear me of suspicion. Taking out others who were pushing tom day 3, we were left with the final group of-

jasnah
Jamie
ghug
Sab​i

And I decided to vote for Ghug.
Have you read my posts on my thoughts of Sabi based on EON 5 and BOD 6? What do you think?
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#11090 Post by snowy801 » Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:35 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:26 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:23 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:21 pm
@snowy Can you summarize for me your vote on vecna in 100 words or less?
Vecna is better than this. I think.

How's that for a short summary?
I didn't expect you to get anywhere close to 100 words.

What do you think of his extenuating circumstances?

Do you think a team of bozo/Tom/Vecna/??? does the NKs/RBs we've been seeing?
I wouldn't have expected a team of bozo/Tom to do the NKs/RBs we've been seeing. Given this premise, I don't see why throwing a Vecna on top makes any less sense.

My forming thoughts on the NK pattern is that they realize there are too many clears and are delaying to justify slapping a scum read on some of our confirms near lylo, because there won't be enough time left in the end to say "well they're a clear they'll die soon enough" and add the few extra MKs necessary to thread the needle.

That, or the obvious thought that one of the clears is wrong, but I think this is wifom that we are intended to believe. It's hard to see which of our clears could even be wrong.

Thus if the NK pattern is in fact "fortune favors the bold" and not "clueless noob" I'd say it points more towards players like Vecna than Sabi.

Besides, who else could it be? rdrivera? I guess. I'm not with you on your Sabi thesis at all
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#11091 Post by snowy801 » Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:36 pm

Doom427 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:30 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:15 pm
Doom427 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 12:26 pm


I don't really think Ghug is oracle fake claiming, I said that mostly as a joke.
Is your vote also a joke? If not, why's that?
Mostly on the discussion during early night yesterday. PE argued that on Day 2, anyone who voted for Tom after the two counterclaims were likely Town. That leaves the following group of people-

jasnah
Jamie
rivera
Doom
PE
​ghug
Sabi

I then said I was pushing for Tom day 3 to be the kill, and that should clear me of suspicion. Taking out others who were pushing tom day 3, we were left with the final group of-

jasnah
Jamie
ghug
Sab​i

And I decided to vote for Ghug.
Jasnah was dead fyi
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#11092 Post by snowy801 » Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:38 pm

Oh extenuating circumstances:

Everyone's got some of those. Shrug
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#11093 Post by BunnyGo » Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:40 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:35 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:26 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:23 pm


Vecna is better than this. I think.

How's that for a short summary?
I didn't expect you to get anywhere close to 100 words.

What do you think of his extenuating circumstances?

Do you think a team of bozo/Tom/Vecna/??? does the NKs/RBs we've been seeing?
I wouldn't have expected a team of bozo/Tom to do the NKs/RBs we've been seeing. Given this premise, I don't see why throwing a Vecna on top makes any less sense.

My forming thoughts on the NK pattern is that they realize there are too many clears and are delaying to justify slapping a scum read on some of our confirms near lylo, because there won't be enough time left in the end to say "well they're a clear they'll die soon enough" and add the few extra MKs necessary to thread the needle.

That, or the obvious thought that one of the clears is wrong, but I think this is wifom that we are intended to believe. It's hard to see which of our clears could even be wrong.

Thus if the NK pattern is in fact "fortune favors the bold" and not "clueless noob" I'd say it points more towards players like Vecna than Sabi.

Besides, who else could it be? rdrivera? I guess. I'm not with you on your Sabi thesis at all
Tom has been known to do risky things (see fake claiming cop to get vig to shoot his scum read). Bozo died early. Tom was dead last night.

Can you say more about why you disagree on Sabi? Do you think their posts after ghug claims is something a town player posts? Do you think their belief that Durga was town clear and the emphasis that Durga town read Sabi (their focus again on clearing themselves) is something a town player gets wrong?

Bonus question: Do you think Sabi is still safe for us to have at KiLo?
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#11094 Post by snowy801 » Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:46 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:40 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:35 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:26 pm


I didn't expect you to get anywhere close to 100 words.

What do you think of his extenuating circumstances?

Do you think a team of bozo/Tom/Vecna/??? does the NKs/RBs we've been seeing?
I wouldn't have expected a team of bozo/Tom to do the NKs/RBs we've been seeing. Given this premise, I don't see why throwing a Vecna on top makes any less sense.

My forming thoughts on the NK pattern is that they realize there are too many clears and are delaying to justify slapping a scum read on some of our confirms near lylo, because there won't be enough time left in the end to say "well they're a clear they'll die soon enough" and add the few extra MKs necessary to thread the needle.

That, or the obvious thought that one of the clears is wrong, but I think this is wifom that we are intended to believe. It's hard to see which of our clears could even be wrong.

Thus if the NK pattern is in fact "fortune favors the bold" and not "clueless noob" I'd say it points more towards players like Vecna than Sabi.

Besides, who else could it be? rdrivera? I guess. I'm not with you on your Sabi thesis at all
Tom has been known to do risky things (see fake claiming cop to get vig to shoot his scum read). Bozo died early. Tom was dead last night.

Can you say more about why you disagree on Sabi? Do you think their posts after ghug claims is something a town player posts? Do you think their belief that Durga was town clear and the emphasis that Durga town read Sabi (their focus again on clearing themselves) is something a town player gets wrong?

Bonus question: Do you think Sabi is still safe for us to have at KiLo?
There's not much to it. I just don't think she can make this many posts and slip past my scumdar (it's a thing)

I do definitely think it's not any more likely to confuse Durga as a clear as scum than town. That said if Sabi is the last remaining scum left clueless by Tom's decapitation I don't really see why it's any more likely for Durga to die than, say, you. I see that you're applying the idea that if everyone else's clear pool excludes Durga except Sabi and scum needs to kill clears to win then Sabi is most likely scum and I think it's a good thought, I just think you're wrong.

That said, she's probably not a safe lylo candidate no, less for slipping past as hidden scum and more for just making a mistake
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#11095 Post by snowy801 » Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:50 pm

she -> they etc

I need to fix that habit
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#11096 Post by kgray » Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:51 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:23 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:21 pm
@snowy Can you summarize for me your vote on vecna in 100 words or less?
Vecna is better than this. I think.

How's that for a short summary?
He's better as scum too though
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#11097 Post by snowy801 » Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:53 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:58 am
Oh and @Bona, "Why did the chicken cross the road?"
Also you gotta stop being such a boomer my guy
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#11098 Post by snowy801 » Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:54 pm

kgray wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:51 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:23 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:21 pm
@snowy Can you summarize for me your vote on vecna in 100 words or less?
Vecna is better than this. I think.

How's that for a short summary?
He's better as scum too though
I guess, but whenever I found myself pressed for time I definitely gave less of a shit to my scum games

Maybe that's just me though.
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#11099 Post by BunnyGo » Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:58 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:53 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:58 am
Oh and @Bona, "Why did the chicken cross the road?"
Also you gotta stop being such a boomer my guy
Don't tell me what to do! Get offa my lawn!
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#11100 Post by snowy801 » Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:58 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:58 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:53 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:58 am
Oh and @Bona, "Why did the chicken cross the road?"
Also you gotta stop being such a boomer my guy
Don't tell me what to do! Get offa my lawn!
smh my head
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