M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

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Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

#8681 Post by Doom427 » Fri Oct 01, 2021 1:53 pm

BesharamSabi wrote:
Fri Oct 01, 2021 1:47 pm
Anyway to balance out my productive posting, here's a shit post:

Last night I was trying to explain to my date about diplomacy and showed his a backstabbr game and yeaaaaaa. He seemed interested but was also drunk at 3 am.

How is your experience with explaining diplomacy to dates?
Poor :cry:
But diplomacy is so obscure I pretty much never discuss it unless I'm actively playing a game in front of someone.
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#8682 Post by BunnyGo » Fri Oct 01, 2021 1:57 pm

BesharamSabi wrote:
Fri Oct 01, 2021 1:47 pm
Anyway to balance out my productive posting, here's a shit post:

Last night I was trying to explain to my date about diplomacy and showed his a backstabbr game and yeaaaaaa. He seemed interested but was also drunk at 3 am.

How is your experience with explaining diplomacy to dates?
I started with Go…it worked pretty well.
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#8683 Post by kgray » Fri Oct 01, 2021 1:58 pm

kgray wrote:
Fri Oct 01, 2021 3:18 am
Wait how am I just noticing that Vecna didn't leave bozo's wagon when he claimed and only moved to Tom once worcej claimed? :?
Okay also Eden didn't move off bozo when bozo claimed because he'd already moved to worcej at that point. And his response to worcej CCing was 'lmao' and shading people for voting a 3rd party. When he'd been voting for bozo and worcej at various points throughout the day, so clearly didn't have a strong preference over which to believe.

:?

Maybe I need to actually go back and look at votes.
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#8684 Post by BunnyGo » Fri Oct 01, 2021 1:58 pm

##vote snowy.

Number 1 baby!

Still waiting on everyone else’s opinions of the EOD vote-a-palooza.
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#8685 Post by Chaqa » Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:00 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:35 am
Chaqa, aren't you Seattle time? Why are you up?
I’m an East Coaster
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#8686 Post by kgray » Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:04 pm

Tom Bombadil wrote:
Fri Oct 01, 2021 1:20 pm
kgray wrote:
Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:53 pm
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:45 pm


Scumread is a strong word. I don’t townread you, so you should be in the POE pool. I feel like we have enough likely clears that I can Use POE at this point.
Okay fair enough. Why are Rivera and Vecna not in your POE? How have they been townie than me?
Rdrivera definitely not. They should 100% be in the pool. To be honest, I just forgot about them.

Vecna was a bozo pusher, no? I suppose he could have bussed, but I find you more likely of that group so I’m inclined to wait on him. He also pretty hard defended worcej when that was the main competing wagon to bozo.

My don’t kill today pool consists of

worcej
Bona
Bunny
TFB
Flum
Chaqa
PE
Sabi
Durga
Vecna
Why am I more likely to have bused bozo than Vecna is? And I was also a very vocal defender of worcej, so....

Also why is PE in your no-kill pool?
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#8687 Post by Durga » Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:07 pm

Snowy should be no kill until at least late game IMO
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#8688 Post by kgray » Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:08 pm

Durga wrote:
Fri Oct 01, 2021 1:39 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Fri Oct 01, 2021 1:34 pm
I think it's fakeable that Sabi didn't remember Chaqa's claim. What is harder to fake is that Chaqa's claim also cleared Flum. I find that post quite towny.
I just don't see why Sabi would fake not remembering what Chaqa claimed. I feel like they genuinely might not remember. Although I do want to vote them just for calling worcej the love of their life.
Also refusing to townread TFB isn't a position scum would take, I think.
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#8689 Post by Tom Bombadil » Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:09 pm

kgray wrote:
Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:04 pm
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Fri Oct 01, 2021 1:20 pm
kgray wrote:
Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:53 pm


Okay fair enough. Why are Rivera and Vecna not in your POE? How have they been townie than me?
Rdrivera definitely not. They should 100% be in the pool. To be honest, I just forgot about them.

Vecna was a bozo pusher, no? I suppose he could have bussed, but I find you more likely of that group so I’m inclined to wait on him. He also pretty hard defended worcej when that was the main competing wagon to bozo.

My don’t kill today pool consists of

worcej
Bona
Bunny
TFB
Flum
Chaqa
PE
Sabi
Durga
Vecna
Why am I more likely to have bused bozo than Vecna is? And I was also a very vocal defender of worcej, so....

Also why is PE in your no-kill pool?
Because I think you are naturally more inclined to bus. Our first game you bussed the shit out of someone in a situation I would never expect scum to bus, and that carried you to the end in my eyes. Because I think you had heat, so would moreso have benefited from the towncred if bozo ended up getting oracled (or cop said that they had a guilty scan which is what I think is most likely considering the attempted Bona kill)

PE is not in my pool today because I townlean him. In particular his most recent analysis regarding the alignment of jasnah seems like something someone legitimately solving would look into whereas scum would not think to fake that as they would be more concerned with lining up miskills. Seems genuinely solvy vs. fake solvy.
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#8690 Post by Chaqa » Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:15 pm

Durga wrote:
Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:07 pm
Snowy should be no kill until at least late game IMO
We can save him for last for the win 😎

Just gotta find the final scum first
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#8691 Post by kgray » Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:18 pm

@Bunny, at a first glace it's Eden or ghug I think.

Snowy's voting doesn't look great with him moving to join Tom on worcej and make him bozo's counterwagon, but mostly tracks considering his scumread of worcej.

Tom also meh but that's kind of tricky because he was a wagon at the end. I don't know why he switched from me to worcej except to get a wagon that could gain momentum to counter bozo, but that's literally what he said he was doing, so.... idk.
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#8692 Post by kgray » Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:19 pm

kgray wrote:
Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:18 pm
@Bunny, at a first glace it's Eden or ghug I think.

Snowy's voting doesn't look great with him moving to join Tom on worcej and make him bozo's counterwagon, but mostly tracks considering his scumread of worcej.

Tom also meh but that's kind of tricky because he was a wagon at the end. I don't know why he switched from me to worcej except to get a wagon that could gain momentum to counter bozo, but that's literally what he said he was doing, so.... idk.
Oh and I think Vecna looks bad too, but you said he was 2nd worst, so I didn't include him.
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#8693 Post by Chaqa » Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:22 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:21 pm
lfischl wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:06 pm
Durga wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:58 pm


What. You can't have two reads and default to gut feeling. You need to explain them.
I don't like how eden is pushing a chaqa fake claim so hard, it makes me think that he's scum and wants all the possible PR's gone.
Wisdom oft comes from the mouth of babes...

Haven't all of the "new" players (Lfischl, Doom, Sabi, jasnah) been sus of Eden?
I'd like to call attention back to this theory I had earlier.

Kinda works whether jasnah is town or scum
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#8694 Post by Chaqa » Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:24 pm

Does Jamie's voting record really make sense as scum?

I'm just not sure what to make of these nightkills either.

I could see Jamie maybe doing it or Vecna. Who kills Lfischl???
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#8695 Post by kgray » Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:28 pm

Vecna wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 10:15 pm
well, that went a bit too fast for me.
Okay I agreed with this when I first saw it, but it seems fabricated looking back.

How was bozo claiming too fast for Vecna? He claimed with 5 minutes left and Vecna didn't react until his last-minute vote for Tom. Why not move to Tom immediately? That was my first instinct when the counterwagon to bozo was worcej, who I'd been strongly townreading like Vecna had also been doing.

The last minute or two *was* chaos, after worcej claimed. But there was plenty of time to react to bozo's claim and Vecna not acting on that is super sus.
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#8696 Post by Durga » Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:30 pm

I always found the exercise of reading too much into the night kill to be futile. For example, one time my team night killed worcej, and someone said "well obviously it wasn't Durga because she wouldn't NK worcej" - and as true as that statement was, the team decided.
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#8697 Post by BesharamSabi » Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:32 pm

Durga wrote:
Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:30 pm
I always found the exercise of reading too much into the night kill to be futile. For example, one time my team night killed worcej, and someone said "well obviously it wasn't Durga because she wouldn't NK worcej" - and as true as that statement was, the team decided.
But I'm wondering the pattern of low post person, Bona, then another low post person. Just seems weird that Bona is the odd one out since he was a lot more active than the other two? Am I just grasping at straws and need to back off this theory.
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#8698 Post by kgray » Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:32 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:22 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:21 pm
lfischl wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:06 pm


I don't like how eden is pushing a chaqa fake claim so hard, it makes me think that he's scum and wants all the possible PR's gone.
Wisdom oft comes from the mouth of babes...

Haven't all of the "new" players (Lfischl, Doom, Sabi, jasnah) been sus of Eden?
I'd like to call attention back to this theory I had earlier.

Kinda works whether jasnah is town or scum
You think scum!Eden wanted to NK lfishcl because lfischl scumread him?

I can't possible imagine a scenario where scum is so afraid of lfischl's pressure that they fearkill him.
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#8699 Post by kgray » Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:34 pm

BesharamSabi wrote:
Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:32 pm
Durga wrote:
Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:30 pm
I always found the exercise of reading too much into the night kill to be futile. For example, one time my team night killed worcej, and someone said "well obviously it wasn't Durga because she wouldn't NK worcej" - and as true as that statement was, the team decided.
But I'm wondering the pattern of low post person, Bona, then another low post person. Just seems weird that Bona is the odd one out since he was a lot more active than the other two? Am I just grasping at straws and need to back off this theory.
I agree that reading into NKs isn't very helpful, but I think the reason for the kills has been PR hunting (or making it look like PR hunting).
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#8700 Post by President Eden » Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:36 pm

kgray wrote:
Fri Oct 01, 2021 1:58 pm
kgray wrote:
Fri Oct 01, 2021 3:18 am
Wait how am I just noticing that Vecna didn't leave bozo's wagon when he claimed and only moved to Tom once worcej claimed? :?
Okay also Eden didn't move off bozo when bozo claimed because he'd already moved to worcej at that point. And his response to worcej CCing was 'lmao' and shading people for voting a 3rd party. When he'd been voting for bozo and worcej at various points throughout the day, so clearly didn't have a strong preference over which to believe.

:?

Maybe I need to actually go back and look at votes.
Your timing on my third party comment is a bit off. It came after bozo’s claim but before worcej’s. To me it seemed you should either vote worcej (if you believed bozo and wanted to keep the Doc claimant alive) or bozo (if you didn’t believe bozo and thus thought he was mafia).

When worcej CC’d I was somewhere between stupefied and laughing my ass off, and thinking about how to tie the vote because we had no time to process the claims. I realized I had no way of knowing how the votes would break to try to tie it and just kinda sat on worcej because I didn’t know what to do. As it happens we tied anyway.
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