M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

[snowy801]

Vecna have you ever been scum in the last 3 years on webdip?

Vecna was 3P two games ago (M69), and scum the game before that (M1017).

[kgray]

You've brought it up multiple times in defense of yourself, claiming that you'd never push bozo like you did if you were scum. Why does voting him when he was already a strongly leading wagon carry they much weight?

I mean I don't think I would have bused bozo like that in this game. You are free to disagree. But I was talking to bona about that, because bona had a different perspective in that I was actually talking with him about wanting to get bozo at EOD. You saying I'm implying that I'm clearly town here, with Tom, when I wasn't at all saying that, just looks like you're making up reasons to scumread or irritate me.

No, I picked the Tom post because it's a sentiment I've heard you expressing repeatedly and I don't think it's a fair one. The accusations of ill intent are getting old.

Holy fuck, my accusations are getting old?

[Tom Bombadil]

Wow Tom shading me for no reason like ok at least I obvtowned that's also an important thing to do in a mafia game.

Lol. I didn’t even look. The post counter on Peterbot is the worst thing to happen to mafia.

[Tom Bombadil]

I mean I don't think I would have bused bozo like that in this game. You are free to disagree. But I was talking to bona about that, because bona had a different perspective in that I was actually talking with him about wanting to get bozo at EOD. You saying I'm implying that I'm clearly town here, with Tom, when I wasn't at all saying that, just looks like you're making up reasons to scumread or irritate me.

No, I picked the Tom post because it's a sentiment I've heard you expressing repeatedly and I don't think it's a fair one. The accusations of ill intent are getting old.

Holy fuck, my accusations are getting old?

Lol

[snowy801]

Bro what is happening

It’s like the town decided this game was getting too easy and now all the obvtowns are clowning to make it a fair fight

uh yeah, so just like, hammer bozo and carry on

You really think that's the play?

Sell me on this one. What are JOAT and Oracle supposed to do if they're shot tonight?

[Durga]

Wow Tom shading me for no reason like ok at least I obvtowned that's also an important thing to do in a mafia game.

Lol. I didn’t even look. The post counter on Peterbot is the worst thing to happen to mafia.

Wait I'm not in top three for global that's snowy, ghug, and kgray. We're all good.

[snowy801]

Wow Tom shading me for no reason like ok at least I obvtowned that's also an important thing to do in a mafia game.

Lol. I didn’t even look. The post counter on Peterbot is the worst thing to happen to mafia.

People think I'm good at scum hunting but really I just looked at who's at bottom and pretended I found good reasons for it

[Vecna]

Like ffs maybe I'm just sick of putting a bunch of effort into this game and in response getting 'nah you're not obvtown, so you must be scum.' And then if I try to question those reads they just keep digging in deeper, and if I ask about other things I get accused of bussing, or arguing in poor faith, or being illiterate/intentionally misrepresenting the situation. And now here's Jamie and TFB jumping in thinking they know me and how I play this game.

And to think I actually *was* enjoying it for a hot second this morning.

Just ignore the party poopers. Lets solve the game together

[snowy801]

Can we hammer Tom today so the game keeps moving? Not like we'll get new info from the flip anyway lol

lol

[ghug]

I mean I don't think I would have bused bozo like that in this game. You are free to disagree. But I was talking to bona about that, because bona had a different perspective in that I was actually talking with him about wanting to get bozo at EOD. You saying I'm implying that I'm clearly town here, with Tom, when I wasn't at all saying that, just looks like you're making up reasons to scumread or irritate me.

No, I picked the Tom post because it's a sentiment I've heard you expressing repeatedly and I don't think it's a fair one. The accusations of ill intent are getting old.

Holy fuck, my accusations are getting old?

It's amazing how you feel the need to reframe what I'm saying even when you're making a joke.

I've backed off. That doesn't mean I'm going to avoid the argument entirely. You've espoused the belief that your bozo vote makes you look good repeatedly, and it's starting to rub off on others. I believe it does not, and I have stated why. It's unfair to characterize that as me being an asshole for the fun of it.

[snowy801]

No, I picked the Tom post because it's a sentiment I've heard you expressing repeatedly and I don't think it's a fair one. The accusations of ill intent are getting old.

Holy fuck, my accusations are getting old?

It's amazing how you feel the need to reframe what I'm saying even when you're making a joke.

I've backed off. That doesn't mean I'm going to avoid the argument entirely. You've espoused the belief that your bozo vote makes you look good repeatedly, and it's starting to rub off on others. I believe it does not, and I have stated why. It's unfair to characterize that as me being an asshole for the fun of it.

ghug who else do you think is scum?

[kgray]

Maybe a D1 no-kill is a good option for the no reveal game. One of the primary reasons argued against a D1 no-kill is the lack of information, but in this case we are not going to know the alignment of the DK. The other reason I think a D1 no-kill may be a good option is that it will make sure our PRs do not have to claim D1 to avoid the DK. However, I would like to know what others think.

lol this is a nice hint from bozo that his teammates should claim to avoid a DK

(not necessarily trying to shade Chaqa here, but you gotta admit it's funny)

[kgray]

No, I picked the Tom post because it's a sentiment I've heard you expressing repeatedly and I don't think it's a fair one. The accusations of ill intent are getting old.

Holy fuck, my accusations are getting old?

It's amazing how you feel the need to reframe what I'm saying even when you're making a joke.

I've backed off. That doesn't mean I'm going to avoid the argument entirely. You've espoused the belief that your bozo vote makes you look good repeatedly, and it's starting to rub off on others. I believe it does not, and I have stated why. It's unfair to characterize that as me being an asshole for the fun of it.

Hey can you just leave me alone please? Thanks.

[Vecna]

Vecna have you ever been scum in the last 3 years on webdip?

Yeah, you missed my scum semester. Rolled scum twice and 3p back to back. Also was 3P like twice before that in the last year or so I think?

[Tom Bombadil]

For everyone voting me:

Assume bozo is scum (which I’m fairly certain)

Why, in a no flip game - or really any game - would scum bozo claim doc knowing there would be a cc eventually, and risk pushing everyone on me if I were scum? It literally makes no sense. That would be killing yourself (albeit delayed) and maybe killing a teammate if everyone went to me instead of worcej.

[Vecna]

Bro what is happening

It’s like the town decided this game was getting too easy and now all the obvtowns are clowning to make it a fair fight

uh yeah, so just like, hammer bozo and carry on

You really think that's the play?

Sell me on this one. What are JOAT and Oracle supposed to do if they're shot tonight?

Pretty sure I said this before, but I want a reveal on Jasnah.

It can both give us her role, and her allignment.

Anyone we daykill, we'll know their claimed role if its not VT.

Anyone that gets nightkilled, we'll know their alignment.

Jasnah is a double knowledge gap.

And as I explicitely stated before, I think bozo was actively trying to save her. And im growing more suspect over Bunny.

Besides that, its probably better to keep one of the two usages till later on. We aint in a hurry to figure out the non-jasnah stuff, since scum NKs will sort of have to give us the answers were looking for.

[Vecna]

Bro what is happening

It’s like the town decided this game was getting too easy and now all the obvtowns are clowning to make it a fair fight

uh yeah, so just like, hammer bozo and carry on

You really think that's the play?

Sell me on this one. What are JOAT and Oracle supposed to do if they're shot tonight?

Also whats the point of killing Tom B or KGray or whoever we want today and then oracling them? What is that going to teach us?

Tom B will get bussed if he's mafia. Same for whichever target we kill today if were already announcing up front that its for the JOAT/oracle.

Like, trying to get those roles to act predictably and matching our daykills to that line of thinking is just dumb af imo.

[Vecna]

(disclaimer; do not try to interpret my last post saying I want to kill Kgray. I will find where your bed sleeps).

[snowy801]

I do admit I kinda wanna flip Jasnah, but I don't think Bunny is scum

[President Eden]

For everyone voting me:

Assume bozo is scum (which I’m fairly certain)

Why, in a no flip game - or really any game - would scum bozo claim doc knowing there would be a cc eventually, and risk pushing everyone on me if I were scum? It literally makes no sense. That would be killing yourself (albeit delayed) and maybe killing a teammate if everyone went to me instead of worcej.

The bot’s vote tracking data suggests you were one of several potential targets near EOD, with Bona, Boat, and worcej roughly at your vote count. worcej pulled ahead as the main alternative for a few minutes leading up to the claim. So it’s fair to think that he might not have expected you to take off.

More to the point, that EOD was incredibly chaotic, and I suspect mafia didn’t have their thumb on the pulse of how it was going to go. I am a bit surprised you didn’t factor this into your analysis, as you were the one suggesting EOD chaos is good for town, and that reason is chief among the reasons why. Maybe mafia did make a mistake at the end—isn’t that the point of chaos?

None of that proves you’re mafia, but it does make your retort here not very compelling