M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

[BesharamSabi]

Dredging up some content:

@Sabi

You don't know my meta, which is fine, but I habitually always attack votes on me. In this case, the wagon was indeed fucking awful.

I just think it's just weird that everyone magically hopped off your wagon when you posted that comment. It's off to me. I'm sorry if you feel like this is an attack on you. I'm just trying to figure out people's thought process.

This is the only substantive reason I can find Sabi having a reason to want to kill me. The thing Sabi finds off has occurred multiple times with other people, yet her 'gut' about me sticks out and has resurfaced again today.

Go read Sabi's D1 and see how much she wants to get people to vote me and how little of anything else Sabi did.

I'm telling you - this is lazy scum play.

You're the only one who doesn't think I'm town. I have been Mia due to oog/mental health reason but go off. Tell me how I'm scum. I tend to trust my gut when it comes to these things. Sorry if it isn't material enough for your taste.

[BesharamSabi]

Dredging up some content:

I just think it's just weird that everyone magically hopped off your wagon when you posted that comment. It's off to me. I'm sorry if you feel like this is an attack on you. I'm just trying to figure out people's thought process.

This is the only substantive reason I can find Sabi having a reason to want to kill me. The thing Sabi finds off has occurred multiple times with other people, yet her 'gut' about me sticks out and has resurfaced again today.

Go read Sabi's D1 and see how much she wants to get people to vote me and how little of anything else Sabi did.

I'm telling you - this is lazy scum play.

Sabi is they/them.

@Sabi, now that you know that worcej couldn't be sending some sort of planned signal since there wasn't scumchat, why are you still sketched out by this happening?

I just don't trust his vibes at all. My gut says he's scum. Just seems so off. I'm sorry if it isn't hard evidence and what not.

[snowy801]

##vote bozo

also ##vote bozo

##vote bozo

Actually bozo is decent enough for now. At the very least it breaks this truly atrocious tie.

##VOTE bozotheclown

I want it noted that I prefer a few other kills though.

Can all of the above please tell me the reasons for their votes?

Shrug
Tell me who else it could be. I still find it implausible that you apparently scum read Jamiet but haven't pushed him or questioned him at all

[ghug]

I'm healthy and financially well off but also playing forum mafia on webdip so we'll call it 2/3

I was hiking with my real life friend a few weeks ago and he was like "Have you seen the webDip forum? Did you know that they play press mafia with manual adjudication? Who the fuck would do that?"

It was awkward.

You have a friend in the real world, who is aware of this site. And not aware that you’re on it?

No, he just hadn't looked closely at who was playing mafia.

[ghug]

What does this even mean?

I think it is a 42 Eternal reference.

I don't know what that is, but ty

Me neither

[snowy801]

M69:

Ok nobody is helping me.

##Vote Bozo for voting his 5th scumread

In Jamiet's defense, I distinctly recall this being a result of his being mad that he made his own reads list and someone scumread him for voting for #5 on his list too, not just an entirely fabricated weird vote. Which speaks to him just happening to see that you were also voting thus and trying to prove a point rather than him having a multi-game pattern of weirdly targeting you

No comment on the rest

[Doom427]

For some context though, here's where I'm at:

Town
BesharamSabi
Bonatogether
BunnyGo
Chaqa
Durga
Fluminator
Vecna
worcej

Contingent Town (town if an assumption I have in my head is true)
ghug
lfischl

Slight Town Lean
Doom427 (more likely scum if Eden is)
Jamiet99uk
kgray
President Eden

Null or Scum
bozotheclown
rdrivera2005
snowy801
TheFlyingBoat
Tom Bombadil

Ok, I keep seeing people post this, and the only world where PE and I are both Mafia is if Chaqa is too. The Damo kill only makes sense to me as a way to throw shade on your claim, or if it's a genuine belief Damo is cop. If if it's the second, Chaqa is likely Mafia, I'd it's the former, my WHOLE analysis of the Damo kill is PE would be the one pushing it, esp. when he's the one who said Damo town cleared him. (I don't really think a towny should say the possible cop cleared them, just cause it's a scum play to say a dead person totally 100 percent knows you're actually a good guy)

In what world would PE coach me to push the theory The Damo kill is from PE trying for a town clear? It's a theory that hurts him! It only makes sense if you're also scum, and we're trying to make sure YOU have a good cop claim!

I wouldn't spend so much time defending myself, but I felt very clever for coming up with that theory, even if it doesn't pan out. Don't want PE to get credit for it. Also, b/c the idea we're both scum is silly, and I want some evidence for why we would be on a team?

[Tom Bombadil]

“Both risk discipline” how foreboding.

##vote worcej for now.

On the most surface of surface levels I’m inlcined to think bozo would lurk more than he is if he were scum, but the nature of the setup may moot that point. My impression of bozo is that he plays scared as scum, and he doesn’t seemed all that scared right now. Regardless I’d prefer to not kill him here as I don’t think he is a very good scum player so there is a chance he will actually sort himself even in a limited info game.

I have no impression of snowy so I’ll look into that.

Admittedly, my main read of worcej still is necessitated on jasnah being scum so I dunno.

I’m taking Chaqa’s claim at face value, and am confused by PE being so sure he is lying.

[snowy801]

Why does he scumread you when he's town?

I don't know, why does he?

Jamie is a very stupid person. To prove that scumreading you for stupid reasons is scummy, you have to show his behavior as town, not just his behavior as scum.

Weren't you the one going off about how Jamiet's actually a smart player and we underestimate him at our peril in M69?

Not to detract from your actual point but what changed your mind?

[lfischl]

For some context though, here's where I'm at:

Town
BesharamSabi
Bonatogether
BunnyGo
Chaqa
Durga
Fluminator
Vecna
worcej

Contingent Town (town if an assumption I have in my head is true)
ghug
lfischl

Slight Town Lean
Doom427 (more likely scum if Eden is)
Jamiet99uk
kgray
President Eden

Null or Scum
bozotheclown
rdrivera2005
snowy801
TheFlyingBoat
Tom Bombadil

Ok, I keep seeing people post this, and the only world where PE and I are both Mafia is if Chaqa is too. The Damo kill only makes sense to me as a way to throw shade on your claim, or if it's a genuine belief Damo is cop. If if it's the second, Chaqa is likely Mafia, I'd it's the former, my WHOLE analysis of the Damo kill is PE would be the one pushing it, esp. when he's the one who said Damo town cleared him. (I don't really think a towny should say the possible cop cleared them, just cause it's a scum play to say a dead person totally 100 percent knows you're actually a good guy)

In what world would PE coach me to push the theory The Damo kill is from PE trying for a town clear? It's a theory that hurts him! It only makes sense if you're also scum, and we're trying to make sure YOU have a good cop claim!

I wouldn't spend so much time defending myself, but I felt very clever for coming up with that theory, even if it doesn't pan out. Don't want PE to get credit for it. Also, b/c the idea we're both scum is silly, and I want some evidence for why we would be on a team?

Why do you think Eden and Doom are scum together?

[BesharamSabi]

Alright I'm logging off till a hour before EOD. Just need some alone time. Remember to join the worcej wagon. Hope the rest of yalls days are good. OK bye for now.

And no this isn't me being conveniently going away, I really do need alone time.

[lfischl]

Alright I'm logging off till a hour before EOD. Just need some alone time. Remember to join the worcej wagon. Hope the rest of yalls days are good. OK bye for now.

And no this isn't me being conveniently going away, I really do need alone time.

Do you have any other scumreads besides worcej?

[Chaqa]

I need to go re-read your posts then Doom, as it sounded to me like you were agreeing with Eden's theories.

[Chaqa]

Lfischl, any strong thoughts atm?

[BesharamSabi]

Alright I'm logging off till a hour before EOD. Just need some alone time. Remember to join the worcej wagon. Hope the rest of yalls days are good. OK bye for now.

And no this isn't me being conveniently going away, I really do need alone time.

Do you have any other scumreads besides worcej?

Besides slight scum read on tfb and Chaqa, no.

[kgray]

I find worcejs reaction extremely suspicious if jasnah is scum considering how quick he was to immediately think she must be scum from a play that makes zero sense as either alignment.

Tom, why do you think it's more likely this was an impulsive bus than an impulsive scumread of the person in a CC who he believes to not be the role they're both claiming?

[Jamiet99uk]

From my perspective my crumb was basically unchallengeable.

It is easy to fake crumbs like that.

Perhaps, but I'm not the kind of player to take a chance that I might pick someone who isn't a VT. How would I as scum know Flum was VT?

It only makes sense if he was my teammate. As Eden said before, there's very few people I would trust to make a play like that with, and Flum isn't one of them.

If you weren't the cop, and you were wrong about Flum being VT, what would you expect him to do? Immediately correct you and say "No Chaqa I'm actually the JOAT!"

Highly unlikely.

[kgray]

I find worcejs reaction extremely suspicious if jasnah is scum considering how quick he was to immediately think she must be scum from a play that makes zero sense as either alignment.

Tom, why do you think it's more likely this was an impulsive bus than an impulsive scumread of the person in a CC who he believes to not be the role they're both claiming?

And also, why do you believe that jasnah is scum who made a bold play that was sure to get her scumread and voted for when she was under no pressure whatsoever?

[ghug]

Some other hints at my Flum inno, as I tried to piece them in when I could:

Hey Chaqa, how do you feel about Flum so far?

He's been pretty unremarkable so far.

Unremarkable is a synonym for boring aka vanilla

Here's where I'm at. Justifications are present if there are any.

Town
Fluminator - troll!Flum is town!Flum
--snipped--

Full town read with little explanation, since I didn't need to think about it.

What’s the reason for all the Flum votes?

Me trying to (stealthily) begin pushing pressure off Flum

Lol

[lfischl]

Lfischl, any strong thoughts atm?

I still don't like bozo and am leading towards eden as scum. Worcej has brought up an interesting point about sabi only wanting to vote him, my guess is sabi is town, but it would be nice to hear more about other people from them.