Mini Mafia 1018 - Race with the Devil [hidden]

[Jamiet99uk]

You seem to be tryharding and your unexplained vote on me was annoying.

Rdrivera seems to be lurking hard so I'm also leaning scum on him.

Kak's entrance felt very reminiscent of his entrance last time when he was scum, so, maybe?

Why do you think I am lurking hard? And why you think it's scum indicative for me?

You seems to be trying too hard to get reasons to scum read people.

##vote Jamiet

Lurking is anti-town and anti-town things are scum-indicative.

Your vote on me is pure OMGUS. I mentioned you in a single sentence and this means I'm "trying too hard" ? Oh really?

[Bonatogether]

yeah i agree with that

it's a proven fact no one here can read lfischl

Is that because there's basically nothing to read?

essentially yes.

[Bonatogether]

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Where is ghug/bona/celaph coming from?

Well, celaph has strongly dismissed the connection between the two, I think on two or three occations, that rubbed me the wrong way. Also, from a (I think Newbie?)guide from one of the older players (was it maniac? Captain meme? I don't know exactly anymore), if something like that occurs, the most likely mafia role is the one defending.

Disclaimer: I could be totally wrong here but that's the thought behind it. Guts and a guide.

celaph is plenty readable anyways by d2 so I don't bother reading him d1. anything from d1 will be asinine anyways

I think chaqa said that last time he played (and then he was scum lol)

[Bonatogether]

I don't think I ever saw someone guide a scum teammate. What happens sometimes is scum buddying a town. Kgray does it extremely well, for example. Anyway, not usual for Ghug at any alignment, so it's probably what Vecna is pointing here.

As someone who said last game 'good job buddying me' to me after my mafiaflip and with this post, who would you say would've buddied you in this game (or is there no one)? Is there any duo right now who, you would say, seems to be buddying? Or someone who tries to buddy someone?

Ghug could be buddying Bona, but it's now his usual style as scum. People that are usually a bit abrasive don't tend to try to buddy anyone as it would be too obvious.

ghug can't be buddying me if i don't townread him

[Foxcastle]

yeah, right before proof
would you prefer me to vote somewhere else?
who do you scumread?

You seem to be tryharding and your unexplained vote on me was annoying.

Rdrivera seems to be lurking hard so I'm also leaning scum on him.

Kak's entrance felt very reminiscent of his entrance last time when he was scum, so, maybe?

Why do you think I am lurking hard? And why you think it's scum indicative for me?

You seems to be trying too hard to get reasons to scum read people.

##vote Jamiet

(Rdr... you are the second-lowest poster, so... yeah, you might be lurking...!)

[Bonatogether]

You seem to be tryharding and your unexplained vote on me was annoying.

Rdrivera seems to be lurking hard so I'm also leaning scum on him.

Kak's entrance felt very reminiscent of his entrance last time when he was scum, so, maybe?

Why do you think I am lurking hard? And why you think it's scum indicative for me?

You seems to be trying too hard to get reasons to scum read people.

##vote Jamiet

(Rdr... you are the second-lowest poster, so... yeah, you might be lurking...!)

im the highest poster

[Foxcastle]

As someone who said last game 'good job buddying me' to me after my mafiaflip and with this post, who would you say would've buddied you in this game (or is there no one)? Is there any duo right now who, you would say, seems to be buddying? Or someone who tries to buddy someone?

Ghug could be buddying Bona, but it's now his usual style as scum. People that are usually a bit abrasive don't tend to try to buddy anyone as it would be too obvious.

ghug can't be buddying me if i don't townread him

"An enemy can't be manipulating me if I don't agree with him" is not a valid conclusion.

[Foxcastle]

Hey Jamie, why didn't your "do we kill high-posters or low-posters on D1" data include how often town killed scum versus town?

[Jamiet99uk]

Why do you think I am lurking hard? And why you think it's scum indicative for me?

You seems to be trying too hard to get reasons to scum read people.

##vote Jamiet

(Rdr... you are the second-lowest poster, so... yeah, you might be lurking...!)

im the highest poster

Yeah appealing for brownie points in this way is not a good strategy though.

[Jamiet99uk]

Hey Jamie, why didn't your "do we kill high-posters or low-posters on D1" data include how often town killed scum versus town?

It's not the question that was asked - but thanks for offering to help! Let me know what you find out.

[Bonatogether]

Ghug could be buddying Bona, but it's now his usual style as scum. People that are usually a bit abrasive don't tend to try to buddy anyone as it would be too obvious.

ghug can't be buddying me if i don't townread him

"An enemy can't be manipulating me if I don't agree with him" is not a valid conclusion.

but that's not buddying

[Bonatogether]

(Rdr... you are the second-lowest poster, so... yeah, you might be lurking...!)

im the highest poster

Yeah appealing for brownie points in this way is not a good strategy though.

i think me being highest poster is scum-indicative for me anyways lol

[Foxcastle]

Hey Jamie, why didn't your "do we kill high-posters or low-posters on D1" data include how often town killed scum versus town?

It's not the question that was asked - but thanks for offering to help! Let me know what you find out.

Ah, of course. I had forgotten your well-known personality trait of only answering questions that were specifically stated. I must have been thinking of another Jamiet who regularly extrapolates and whose data dumps regularly include relevant information like whether the person killed was town or scum.

Anyway, I asked because it looked like it could be an effort to hide how often town is right to kill high or low posters, but then when questioned about it, Jamiet deflected pretty hard, so now I'm even more curious about his behavior!

[ghug]

Can someone try to kill someone else? I'm bored

@ghug if you could remove one player right now from the game (vig shot, poison, etc. ...), who would it be? Please also tell me why.

@everyone I would like these questions answered from everyone participating right now, so if you are so kind, please tell me this.

I would remove Jamiet and I suspect everyone will answer the person they are voting.

Why ate you asking such useless questions?

To be fair, I was voting for Vecna at that point and clearly had no intention of killing him.

[Jamiet99uk]

Hey Jamie, why didn't your "do we kill high-posters or low-posters on D1" data include how often town killed scum versus town?

It's not the question that was asked - but thanks for offering to help! Let me know what you find out.

Ah, of course. I had forgotten your well-known personality trait of only answering questions that were specifically stated. I must have been thinking of another Jamiet who regularly extrapolates and whose data dumps regularly include relevant information like whether the person killed was town or scum.

Anyway, I asked because it looked like it could be an effort to hide how often town is right to kill high or low posters, but then when questioned about it, Jamiet deflected pretty hard, so now I'm even more curious about his behavior!

I didn't deflect. I gave you a direct answer.

[ghug]

I don't think I ever saw someone guide a scum teammate. What happens sometimes is scum buddying a town. Kgray does it extremely well, for example. Anyway, not usual for Ghug at any alignment, so it's probably what Vecna is pointing here.

As someone who said last game 'good job buddying me' to me after my mafiaflip and with this post, who would you say would've buddied you in this game (or is there no one)? Is there any duo right now who, you would say, seems to be buddying? Or someone who tries to buddy someone?

Ghug could be buddying Bona, but it's now his usual style as scum. People that are usually a bit abrasive don't tend to try to buddy anyone as it would be too obvious.

I'm not abrasive. I'm kind and cuddly.

[ghug]

As someone who said last game 'good job buddying me' to me after my mafiaflip and with this post, who would you say would've buddied you in this game (or is there no one)? Is there any duo right now who, you would say, seems to be buddying? Or someone who tries to buddy someone?

Ghug could be buddying Bona, but it's now his usual style as scum. People that are usually a bit abrasive don't tend to try to buddy anyone as it would be too obvious.

ghug can't be buddying me if i don't townread him

Couldn't I just be failing?

[Foxcastle]

ghug can't be buddying me if i don't townread him

"An enemy can't be manipulating me if I don't agree with him" is not a valid conclusion.

but that's not buddying

We should definitely put aside the question of whether scum-ghug is manipulating you in order to have a semantics debate about the meaning of "buddying"...

What do you think ghug is doing?

[Foxcastle]

It's not the question that was asked - but thanks for offering to help! Let me know what you find out.

Ah, of course. I had forgotten your well-known personality trait of only answering questions that were specifically stated. I must have been thinking of another Jamiet who regularly extrapolates and whose data dumps regularly include relevant information like whether the person killed was town or scum.

Anyway, I asked because it looked like it could be an effort to hide how often town is right to kill high or low posters, but then when questioned about it, Jamiet deflected pretty hard, so now I'm even more curious about his behavior!

I didn't deflect. I gave you a direct answer.

Sure, Jan.

My point is, I would normally expect you to have provided the town/scum information on that kind of data, and you didn't, and I think that's interesting and I would like everyone else to know about it in case it indicates scummy malfeasance on your part.

[Foxcastle]

Ghug could be buddying Bona, but it's now his usual style as scum. People that are usually a bit abrasive don't tend to try to buddy anyone as it would be too obvious.

ghug can't be buddying me if i don't townread him

Couldn't I just be failing?

Drawing Bona into a semantics debate on the exact and precise meaning of buddying is not making me think you are town!