webdiplomacy.net

snowy801 wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:10 pm

Uh I don't know whether it's wise to say where my rice went
Now that we know where it went, any potential downsides?

I missed something here snowy or there’s a typo? You didn’t say where it went so we don’t now know where it went.

God dammit I need to just read everything and stop clipping stuff that is answered later in the thread…

Vecna wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:38 pm

The way I see the current gamestate:

Jamiet is either the last scum or 3P. He's been hiding behind itemclaims all game long, and its prevented us from killing him twice now. I honestly dont really care what he has to say, since its not going to be in our best interest, but his.

In the absolute worst case scenario, 3P has 5/6 items (I think this is possible by now, right?) but is still chasing after the doc item. Worst case scenario, Jamiet doesnt flip 3P, but then the actual 3P still has to take like a 1/7 gamble on who has the item he's guessing for. Killing jamiet can never result in the 3P getting all his items. It can result in us either eliminating mafia and their NK/rb, or we just win outright by nabbing the 3P.

Lets just get this over with

##vote jamiet

Vecna why do you think 3P is specifically only looking for the rice?

Vecna wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 16, 2021 12:00 am

To signal to 3P to steal from him? To try and create the hazard of daykilling him because "the items will go to the 3P"?

I dont know, I dont really care.

He's clearly not town. And im pretty sure neither are you.

Were just going through the motions at this point.

Well, I am town. So your game solution is wrong. I’m surprised you are not interested in hearing Jamie speak or in debating what happened. That to me sounds like someone who is not town and has TMI.

I think it's Jamiet 3P HB scum

But eh, I don't think there's a universe we don't vote out Jamiet today

If you want to hear what he has to say, I guess there's no reason not to

snowy801 wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 16, 2021 12:16 am

I think it's Jamiet 3P HB scum

But eh, I don't think there's a universe we don't vote out Jamiet today

If you want to hear what he has to say, I guess there's no reason not to

No actually there is a reason, or there MAY be.

When you think about why Jamie claimed a bunch of items, he never does that as 3P. But he can do it as town or scum.

The thing is, as you and others have pointed out, the greatest threat to town is now 3P. There are 8 town alive!!! We don’t need to care about scum right now. So even if Jamie is scum, we still want to find the 3P instead.

I guess there’s a world where Jamie makes this claim because he has accumulated enough items that he wants to try to get one more night to make a steal, but I don’t buy it. Did 3P!Jamie argue up and down on D2 that ghug was 3P for fakeclaiming chicken when he was in fact 3P? I don’t see any 3P coming out talking 3P tactics D2.

Anyway it’s not necessarily Vecna obviously but this Jamie thing is not open and shut and I think it is way, way more likely Jamie is scum or town and therefore not a good kill.

But I’ll shut up and wait for what Jamie has to say. Just don’t hammer, that’s idiotic for town, game is very very favourable to us but not won yet.

##VOTE foodcoats

#CALL GM

Can my Kale partner be anon? I've already claimed who I am, do they have to say who they are in our Kale chat?

##VOTE Jamie
##END

I will release this when I find out that the chicken has moved. If Jamie still has it, it's over for him.

Also, No-way are we allowing Vecna on this wagon?

Macca573 wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 16, 2021 12:37 am

#CALL GM

Can my Kale partner be anon? I've already claimed who I am, do they have to say who they are in our Kale chat?

I could tell you who is on the Kale chat if needed. Don't vote end please.

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 16, 2021 12:42 am

Macca573 wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 16, 2021 12:37 am

#CALL GM

Can my Kale partner be anon? I've already claimed who I am, do they have to say who they are in our Kale chat?

I could tell you who is on the Kale chat if needed. Don't vote end please.

Perhaps for now, don't tell me.

If it can be anon, it could be a way for the last mafia person to give us info on 3p.

Macca573 wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 16, 2021 12:40 am

##VOTE Jamie
##END

I will release this when I find out that the chicken has moved. If Jamie still has it, it's over for him.

Ah, this is a good point! Jamie did say he gave the chicken away but if that can’t be confirmed that would be a big red flag.

Why did Jamie have to go to bed…

Yes, why did Jamiet go to sleep and buy 10+ hours instead of waiting 10 minutes to spill us incredibly useful information which he kept hinting at as town?

SOrry folks; really can't catch up with what happened at night.

What's the theory on why no night kill?

I feel like I am being torn between believing two competing sides. Definitely don't let me last to MYLO or whatever it is. I'd do town horrible.

In retrospect, if Jamiet is in fact 3P, it would just be like him to loudly accuse another of being 3P believing this would cast suspicion off of him

I suppose we shall see the truth of the matter soon enough.

I think we still keep certain people off wagon, right?

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:34 pm

damo666 wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:21 pm

snowy801 wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:18 pm

Yeah I'm not very smart

And foodcoats I'm reconciling that knowledge with the fact that no cheese spun out when he got Hot Salsa's

How does that happen, if HB is 3P?

Ah yes. The 3p possibles is down to gang of 4.

HB could be mafia though.

The kgray slot is still possible. The way that slot had moved around, there might not have been a steal attempt when tracked by HB. lfischl could have received the fruit vendor item from Bonatogether D1. lfischl could also have started with the gun and picked up the commute item from ghug by shooting him, and kgray could be close to winning as 3P.

I mean I’m not 3P, but also N3 is the most likely night my slot would have been active since it was brain.

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:39 pm

snowy801 wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:21 pm

When in doubt for what to do

If you want to know "how can we win" ask Vecna
If you want to know "how can we make sure not to lose" ask bozo
If you want to know "how can I trust these guys there's like 7 3Ps in this game" ask damo
If you want all of these virtues rolled up into one neat package I'd say ask rdrivera, but who knows if he'll answer

I am always here to answer, you just need to have some patience....

I’ll do my best to fill in as your spokesperson! Thanks, I’ve missed this role

snowy801 wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:11 pm

Sometimes I wonder if they're doing this on purpose

I have received nothing

He’s absolutely trolling at this point, yes.

foodcoats wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:07 pm

So assuming bozo confirms, Vecna is clear.

That’s awkward for ol’ foodcoats. Good thing Jamie looks sus.

I’ll confirm that I got pinto beans at the last EOD.