M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

[Vecna]

I am pleased that I have prompted Rdrivera to increase his participation.

Except it wasnt you that prompted it

[ghug]

I'd like to endorse Snowy's suggested use of the hammer. It's bad for town to have it hanging around.

[Vecna]

Has Vecna given out a single town read aside from Bob (who is the easiest obvtown to give, and thus more or less meaningless)

I see some positive noise about Maniac, and there's his list (which has Bob, Celaph, HB and worcej on what I presume is his "towny" cutoff).

But mostly he's been looking for reasons to scum read people without really hard committing to it. Thoughts?

Because hard-commiting to scumreads is such a towny thing to do, right?. What a mediocre post.

Town Snowy wouldve just drawn the conclusion himself and hammer the point home extremely hard, instead of trying to gently nudge other people if they -mayhaps- might feel this way as well.

weak

[Vecna]

Eh, meh, mah

##vote lfischl

This might not be terrible

[Vecna]

I think Jamiet was calling out lurkers in order to look like hunting (and that's why I told he was parroting Damo). And when I started to suspect him he tried to discredit me and just ignored other lurkers. So, a bit of the two options you pointed.

Okay, cool.

What other opinions do you have on people, aside from Jamiet? I see you said ghug seemed a bit weird, but little else I can recall.

I am torn on Ghug. I can see him being 3P or Mafia but this thing with Jamiet is so unnecessary that I don't see two scum doing this.

I had some suspicion on Brian but totally based on tone and also Damo, but the RB claim seems towny.

I have a townread on you, Bozo and Food. Bob and Vecna are also on the town side, but less.

The others are on the null side.

Have you played with Ghug before? Oh wait, like 30 times before? Maybe more even?

So why do you brush the possibility off that easily while you actually scumread Jamiet?

[Vecna]

I think Jamiet was calling out lurkers in order to look like hunting (and that's why I told he was parroting Damo). And when I started to suspect him he tried to discredit me and just ignored other lurkers. So, a bit of the two options you pointed.

Okay, cool.

What other opinions do you have on people, aside from Jamiet? I see you said ghug seemed a bit weird, but little else I can recall.

I am torn on Ghug. I can see him being 3P or Mafia but this thing with Jamiet is so unnecessary that I don't see two scum doing this.

I had some suspicion on Brian but totally based on tone and also Damo, but the RB claim seems towny.

I have a townread on you, Bozo and Food. Bob and Vecna are also on the town side, but less.

The others are on the null side.

Also, the tone you directed at me really does not feel like a way to address a townread.

[ghug]

Vecna, why are you so terrible this game?

[Vecna]

Vecna, why are you so terrible this game?

How would you know whether im terrible?

Also, you have no right to speak whatsoever. Get back in your cage

[snowy801]

I mean you don't have to be right or wrong to be terrible.

Honestly I'm pretty disappointed. In retrospect, I don't know why I ever believed your claims that you're a good player, as I've never seen you play town.

[Vecna]

Like, what was that statement?

Is it you trying to be your loving self and letting me know I should townread you?

Is it just you being frustrated because im suspicious of you (and some other people? which ones are you annoyed with?)

[snowy801]

##vote Snowy

Just tooooo much

I was going to say nice things to you, but I can see now that such impulses were weakness and I need to stamp it out.

What's too much? The content? The critical insights? The hard hitting questions? Be precise.

[snowy801]

Like, what was that statement?

Is it you trying to be your loving self and letting me know I should townread you?

Is it just you being frustrated because im suspicious of you (and some other people? which ones are you annoyed with?)

What, the post right above?

I'd mark it as the disappointment of thinking I've finally met someone who can rationally analyze a mafia game, only to be let down once again.

We'll talk about it post game, it's not a big deal.

[Chaqa]

##GM Note:

Could someone vote change their vote once or twice so I can see if the bot is still working?

[snowy801]

Sorry to hear that Damo. There is nothing more stressful that watching loved ones die. Your feelings of depression are perfectly normal and natural. I hope you’re able to have some time with your friend before the end.

Take care mate. I’m sure I speak for everyone on here when I say we are here for you if you want to talk about it.

Heartwarming, but do you ever plan on playing this game?

I had a question for you, and besides that would like to hear your general thoughts about people.

You're clearly caught up, so what's holding you back?

[snowy801]

##vote Jamiet

[snowy801]

##vote lfischl

Incidentally, I'm tempted to say we just ought to go through with this vote if he doesn't show. I saw him chilling for an hour earlier, with nary a word.

[Vecna]

I generally only apply ratio to mechanical arguments. Applying ratio to allignment reads is a trap, since scum just try to play into that to be the rationally more towny player. -in most cases-

I have games where I sense nearly everything and I have games where im wrong half of the time.

As for your disappointment.....its halfway into day2, and im probably one of the reasons you didnt end up dying D1. So whatever, play better yourself instead of whinging at me.

[Vecna]

Like, what was that statement?

Is it you trying to be your loving self and letting me know I should townread you?

Is it just you being frustrated because im suspicious of you (and some other people? which ones are you annoyed with?)

also, this was replying to ghug, not you snowy

[snowy801]

Like, what was that statement?

Is it you trying to be your loving self and letting me know I should townread you?

Is it just you being frustrated because im suspicious of you (and some other people? which ones are you annoyed with?)

also, this was replying to ghug, not you snowy

Oh okay I was going to go on a serious rant

Um, well since I'm posting this I guess I may as well continue (nicer), just want to comment once again that meta-reads are not the way. Have you learned nothing from bona?

[Vecna]

Im really not going to go into a debate over how I should play the game.

My strength as town is being blatantly obviously town nearly every game and never getting miskilled. I have plenty of games where my reads are sharp as a knife. My townreads usually carry games and result in me dying early nearly every time.

Do with that what you will. If youre actually town, approaching me in the way that you are is not helping. at all.