M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

[Vecna]

I think if you were actually town, you'd be more focussed on the part of where he's wrong

As opposed to the fact of how its -just unfair-

I've already rebutted his arguments and shown then to be wrong and he has admitted he was making it all up. I can't "focus" on rebutting something Snowy has admitted is a gut instinct. His guts are wrong. He's been eating too much fast food. I'm not scum.

Meanwhile as I read up, apparently the townclears have decided that you need to be flipped, Vecna.

No actually that was your gamelong scumread Bozo

[Jamiet99uk]

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dEareSt b0zo,

Y0u are s0 w0nderFul and cLever. EvErYb0dY reSpeCtS y0u anD don'T lIsTen to wHat ThaT n@sTy veCnA Says.

I h0pE y0u haVe a fAntasTic hOlidaY in MisSouRi.

I WilL taKe go0d cArE oF y0ur tEdDybEarS wHiLsT y0u Are g0Ne.

LotS of LoVe,

B0zotHeCloWn,


P.S GHUG IS SCUM

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[Jamiet99uk]

I think if you were actually town, you'd be more focussed on the part of where he's wrong

As opposed to the fact of how its -just unfair-

I've already rebutted his arguments and shown then to be wrong and he has admitted he was making it all up. I can't "focus" on rebutting something Snowy has admitted is a gut instinct. His guts are wrong. He's been eating too much fast food. I'm not scum.

Meanwhile as I read up, apparently the townclears have decided that you need to be flipped, Vecna.

No actually that was your gamelong scumread Bozo

Hmm but Snowy, who you just declared to be townclear, endorsed this plan, didst he not?

[Vecna]

Anyways, wasting time talking to scum trying to save their hide is time spent wasted.

Just to make sure we have covered all bases;

Is damo hardcleared somewhere along the line of being 3P?

[bozotheclown]

wait, did maniac talk at all about the items he received from the hot salsa?

Maniac said he received just the tracker item.

[Jamiet99uk]

Yes, but I still think its foodcoats.

Check how he inserted himself onto the HB wagon after being specifically told not to, since youre so fond of looking at the voting

Ah. Now then.

[Jamiet99uk]

Also, foodcoats is in the small pool of mafia suspects, you are the most dangerous 3P possibility.

So Bozo agrees Foodcoats is in the suspect pool, and Foodcoats is also a 3P suspect.

Doesn't this make Foodcoats a good wagon today actually?

[Vecna]

It would be sort of hilarious if all non-town were in those 3 and theyre covering for eachother now.

Still, I do not believe a scenario where Jamiet is scum, and scum have agreed to throw to the 3P.

[bozotheclown]

Anyways, wasting time talking to scum trying to save their hide is time spent wasted.

Just to make sure we have covered all bases;

Is damo hardcleared somewhere along the line of being 3P?

His doctor item could only start with town, but it might not be impossible he got it from Bonatogether.

[Jamiet99uk]

D2 is interesting. Foodcoats hammered and helped catch Mafia. That would be such high level bussing that I just don’t think it’s possible he did that. But he did ensure he was able to control a kill and be on the wagon. Possible 3P sign.

Foodcoats also gets mega 3P points for yesterday’s kill. As an unclear there was no good reason why he was on Tom’s wagon.

I know it’s tempting to vote of people who could be 3P or Mafia, but if we’re taking the best option we should be killing 3P today. If we get that right I’m sure we’ll catch Mafia almost be POE. ##voteFoodcoats

Aha.

[Vecna]

Also, foodcoats is in the small pool of mafia suspects, you are the most dangerous 3P possibility.

So Bozo agrees Foodcoats is in the suspect pool, and Foodcoats is also a 3P suspect.

Doesn't this make Foodcoats a good wagon today actually?

People are going to look to the mechanics of D1 voting, sadly.

And Snowy feels he somehow has another reason to townread Food

[Jamiet99uk]

Vecna is town!pinging me here and I hope he is not just pushing my buttons, but

##Vote Foodcoats

[Maniac]

I think with so many people now clear or semi clear we are favourites over the Mafia, but don’t really know where we stand against the 3P.

I’m fairly relaxed about being killed, it’s a team game and as long as we win, that’s fine. I will spend a few minutes defending myself though as I’d sooner not die.

Firstly items do not leave the game. This is important. The 3P can be patient, it’s far better for them to be on the wagon D4 than D1 for example. Towards the end of the game they can pick up multiple items with one right move.

My D1 - I was the counter wagon that made a late move to Bonatogether. Everyone who knows me will know I always argue for making votes count. The end result was 8 v 4, but it was still important to make that safe and save myself. Bonatogether turning up to vote for me and one switch from Bona to me would’ve tied the vote. Those things can happen in last few seconds.

Let’s not forget that two confirmed scum were on my wagon. Yes, people will shout bussing, but scum bus for a reason. There was no good reason to bus here.

D2 is interesting. Foodcoats hammered and helped catch Mafia. That would be such high level bussing that I just don’t think it’s possible he did that. But he did ensure he was able to control a kill and be on the wagon. Possible 3P sign.

Foodcoats also gets mega 3P points for yesterday’s kill. As an unclear there was no good reason why he was on Tom’s wagon.

I know it’s tempting to vote of people who could be 3P or Mafia, but if we’re taking the best option we should be killing 3P today. If we get that right I’m sure we’ll catch Mafia almost be POE. ##voteFoodcoats

Just to answer rdriveria. I think you’re looking at my JOAT play from a results oriented POV. Macca choose the wrong person to challenge. If they had been cop, tracker, watcher or someone with a stone cold read and caught Mafia, I’d be viewed as assisting town Jesus. Mafia start with four items and collected 1 or 2 more when I claimed JOAT. If I’m Mafia why didn’t I fake claim one of the items that Mafia held? One that would semi-clear me of Mafia or 3P?

Why did you silence Macca when you could have let that go unused?

Why did you think Macca was the best player to give the challenge to, if you were hoping to give it to someone with an investigative item?

Silencing Macca for half a day was likely to have minimal downside as they were posting so little anyway and they had studied to complete. I crumbed I would silence him so if I ever had to defend my claim of JOAT I could. I know that’s unlikely. Maybe force of habit.

I town read Macca. I know my role so there were 3/16 chance Macca might have a investigative role. There wasn’t really a downside. If Macca was Mafia it would probably won’t have got used.

[Vecna]

I mean, I feel ive been nothing but obv-town all game. But unless Maniac is simply the 3P here (my reads has me not feeling it at all really), something weird did happen D1 and its going to result in the wrong course of action. Either today or tomorrow.

[bozotheclown]

Also, foodcoats is in the small pool of mafia suspects, you are the most dangerous 3P possibility.

So Bozo agrees Foodcoats is in the suspect pool, and Foodcoats is also a 3P suspect.

Doesn't this make Foodcoats a good wagon today actually?

I prefer Maniac or you over foodcoats today.

[Vecna]

Im gonna be gone for a bit.

Bozo, can you humor me and look into the options of celaph/ghug fucking up and not telling us?

Either with 3P having the napkins or the gun. I know this will result in a ton of possible scenarios, but better to be wholesome than regret not looking into it because we just made the assumption that everyone played brilliantly in every decision they made.

[bozotheclown]

Im gonna be gone for a bit.

Bozo, can you humor me and look into the options of celaph/ghug fucking up and not telling us?

Either with 3P having the napkins or the gun. I know this will result in a ton of possible scenarios, but better to be wholesome than regret not looking into it because we just made the assumption that everyone played brilliantly in every decision they made.

I will look at it, but even though there are other possibilities, I do not think they are more probable.

[damo666]

Anyways, wasting time talking to scum trying to save their hide is time spent wasted.

Just to make sure we have covered all bases;

Is damo hardcleared somewhere along the line of being 3P?

His doctor item could only start with town, but it might not be impossible he got it from Bonatogether.

Give away rice, not steal outed beans, chicken, cheese?
I know you like to look at all possibilities but come on.

[damo666]

I'm gonna have a deep think and work out optimal strategy.

Intrigued that Snowy thinks he has it solved, I don't see how that is possible.

I don't think 3p can realistically have more than 4 items but having 4 is dangerous because 1 item on the dk and steal 1 tonight it's game over.

We cannot therefore control the vote as 3p could just jump on and make a fair guess for last item.

I therefore believe we need to determine the maximum number of items possible 3p players can have and do from any that can have 4+.

I'm not sure I'm up to this task though.

Looks like killing 3p has priority over killing Mafia.

[TheMadMonarch]

I don't understand why 3p hasn't stolen the chicken from Jamie.

There is of course an obvious answer....

That everyone keeps expecting him to toss it?