M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

[bozotheclown]

Ill discuss how we handle this shit with damo and snowy.

Bozo hasnt contributed a single positive thing to this game except hound me at every single turn.

You can try to discredit me, but if you insist on being on Jamie's wagon, no one is going to buy what you are saying.

Dude are you even listening to yourself? All you've been doing the past three gamedays is come up with scenario's how I could be 3P and then put up a series of loops for me to jump through.

Ive been playing in the most pro-town manner humanly possible, but nothing is enough. New shit just keeps popping up in your head.

And then you dare say im trying to discredit you?

I am saying I think you are not town and are making a very good play to advance you win condition. You are saying this:

Ill discuss how we handle this shit with damo and snowy.

Bozo hasnt contributed a single positive thing to this game except hound me at every single turn.

[Vecna]

If jamiet flips 3P here, that means HB is cleared, Bozo is cleared, Vecna is cleared and the game is in autowin.

[Vecna]

What does that mean?

It means that you find the most bizarre scenarios in which I could still be 3P, but apply this metric to noone else.

What wagon would you suggest?

You can vote for me while I am voting for you.

No, I gave you a very fair mechanical assignment.

That is your forte, no?

But instead you deflected.

[Vecna]

I would prefer it if you were off wagon just for completeness.

We probably have Jamie bang to rights but I'm slightly concerned that food is slipping under the radar due to this nonsense.

Regarding the no kill do we think it a save or does last maf now know who 3p is?

I think its fairly obvious what happened, no?

Not to me. Food shot Jamie? HamB shot Jamie?

We shouldnt discuss it, but im fairly confident the shot didnt land on 3p

[Vecna]

If jamiet flips 3P here, that means HB is cleared, Bozo is cleared, Vecna is cleared and the game is in autowin.

Wait, this wouldnt actually clear HB, scratch that, it was the other way around.

[bozotheclown]

If jamiet flips 3P here, that means HB is cleared, Bozo is cleared, Vecna is cleared and the game is in autowin.

OK, but what if he is not 3P? Maybe foodcoats gave him some 3P items to set you up.

[bozotheclown]

It means that you find the most bizarre scenarios in which I could still be 3P, but apply this metric to noone else.

What wagon would you suggest?

You can vote for me while I am voting for you.

No, I gave you a very fair mechanical assignment.

That is your forte, no?

But instead you deflected.

I already said I think you should be the DK, since I think you are the 3P, but I did not think you would vote for yourself.

[Vecna]

If jamiet flips 3P here, that means HB is cleared, Bozo is cleared, Vecna is cleared and the game is in autowin.

OK, but what if he is not 3P? Maybe foodcoats gave him some 3P items to set you up.

Then it is still optimal to kill him, get the info, and kill Food tomorrow.

Like I said in my wall post, worst case scenario he has a 1 in 5-8 of winning tonight IF they have all those items combined.

This cannot be avoided in any scenario, unless we kill the 3P guaranteed. There are no guarantees.

The worst thing we can do is waffle on this, and not pull the trigger today.

And yes, I know youre then going to question my jamiet read and all that, and why no longer foodcoats for 3P. Practicallity. Jamiet gives us great information on the position on HB/food. Its a bandaid that needs to be pulled today.

[bozotheclown]

Ill discuss how we handle this shit with damo and snowy.

Bozo hasnt contributed a single positive thing to this game except hound me at every single turn.

You can try to discredit me, but if you insist on being on Jamie's wagon, no one is going to buy what you are saying.

Dude are you even listening to yourself? All you've been doing the past three gamedays is come up with scenario's how I could be 3P and then put up a series of loops for me to jump through.

Ive been playing in the most pro-town manner humanly possible, but nothing is enough. New shit just keeps popping up in your head.

And then you dare say im trying to discredit you?

Also, it was not my idea to try to clear you as 3P N5, I wanted to DK you D5.

[Vecna]

You can try to discredit me, but if you insist on being on Jamie's wagon, no one is going to buy what you are saying.

Dude are you even listening to yourself? All you've been doing the past three gamedays is come up with scenario's how I could be 3P and then put up a series of loops for me to jump through.

Ive been playing in the most pro-town manner humanly possible, but nothing is enough. New shit just keeps popping up in your head.

And then you dare say im trying to discredit you?

Also, it was not my idea to try to clear you as 3P N5, I wanted to DK you D5.

I know, hence my comments about your contributions to this game.

[bozotheclown]

It means that you find the most bizarre scenarios in which I could still be 3P, but apply this metric to noone else.

What wagon would you suggest?

You can vote for me while I am voting for you.

No, I gave you a very fair mechanical assignment.

That is your forte, no?

But instead you deflected.

I would be very surprised if Jamie is the 3P, although he is still my top mafia suspect. I think the 3P is either you or foodcoats. I would be OK DKing you and foodcoats, in either order, before Jamie.

[bozotheclown]

In any case, please remove the end votes until we hear from Jamie, or until it is clear Jamie is not going to come back.

[Vecna]

You can vote for me while I am voting for you.

No, I gave you a very fair mechanical assignment.

That is your forte, no?

But instead you deflected.

I would be very surprised if Jamie is the 3P, although he is still my top mafia suspect. I think the 3P is either you or foodcoats. I would be OK DKing you and foodcoats, in either order, before Jamie.

And what if youre wrong and jamiet picks off the last item tonight?

What if youre wrong and the 3P started with a gun and got their clearing item off Ghug? Then leaving mafia alive will double the odds at which the 2 non-town narrow in on the final item in town hands.

I cant think of a single scenario where killing jamiet isnt the right move. Even if you were right about me, its probably still the best thing we can do.

[Vecna]

its not like its going to get hammered, but w/e

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[bozotheclown]

No, I gave you a very fair mechanical assignment.

That is your forte, no?

But instead you deflected.

I would be very surprised if Jamie is the 3P, although he is still my top mafia suspect. I think the 3P is either you or foodcoats. I would be OK DKing you and foodcoats, in either order, before Jamie.

And what if youre wrong and jamiet picks off the last item tonight?

What if youre wrong and the 3P started with a gun and got their clearing item off Ghug? Then leaving mafia alive will double the odds at which the 2 non-town narrow in on the final item in town hands.

I cant think of a single scenario where killing jamiet isnt the right move. Even if you were right about me, its probably still the best thing we can do.

I would expect you to want to know what Jamie is going to say first, it could implicate foodcoats.

[Vecna]

I would be very surprised if Jamie is the 3P, although he is still my top mafia suspect. I think the 3P is either you or foodcoats. I would be OK DKing you and foodcoats, in either order, before Jamie.

And what if youre wrong and jamiet picks off the last item tonight?

What if youre wrong and the 3P started with a gun and got their clearing item off Ghug? Then leaving mafia alive will double the odds at which the 2 non-town narrow in on the final item in town hands.

I cant think of a single scenario where killing jamiet isnt the right move. Even if you were right about me, its probably still the best thing we can do.

I would expect you to want to know what Jamie is going to say first, it could implicate foodcoats.

Or it could be more crap to make me look bad.

Im happy to just stick to objective information, such as what is revealed in a flip.

[damo666]

Jamie can't work out what to say lol

[Jamiet99uk]

Cease thine endvoting.

I've got something important to say.

[Jamiet99uk]

First, a quick but important question:

Do we know if there is a chance the 3P is in possession of any rice?

[Jamiet99uk]

If Jamie is 3P, he might have been able to replicate the gun by now, so everyone should be careful about giving out too much information.

Even if I did, the Scooping Chips don't work like that. You can only replicate a charge of the item on the night that you use said item, and you all know Damo gave the chips to me after the gun was fired, so replication would have been impossible.