M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#4701 Post by snowy801 » Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:47 am

foodcoats wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:42 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:15 am
To point out what I was doing D3 EOD, I was trying to make Macca a viable DK after he declared his 3P item to see if the 3P would get on the wagon, and Vecna did get on the wagon when a Macca DK looked possible, but moved back to no-kill when it was obvious a Macca DK was not going to happen. There was no reason for Vecna to move back to no-kill there if he was really interested in a Macca DK, except for appearances.
I’m still catching up but damn this is the bozo I came here to sheep.
I thought you were going to sheep me!
I sad.

New question for those who stand accused of being 3P (and assorted peanut gallery).

Who do we want to Hot Salsa tomorrow, to gain optimal effects?

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#4702 Post by damo666 » Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:47 am

damo666 wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:57 am
It would be very helpful to know current whereabouts of all the 3p items. Please declare if you have any, you can give it away.

White rice - Damo to snowy to damo
Brown Rice - Macca to Bob to Snowy
Black Beans - ?
Pinto Beans - Vecna to Bob to Vecna
Pico - ?
Chicken - Jamie
Napkins - ?

Filling in gaps is useful. This is current position before today's swaparound
And I forgot cheese what's happened that?

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#4703 Post by snowy801 » Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:48 am

damo666 wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:47 am
damo666 wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:57 am
It would be very helpful to know current whereabouts of all the 3p items. Please declare if you have any, you can give it away.

White rice - Damo to snowy to damo
Brown Rice - Macca to Bob to Snowy
Black Beans - ?
Pinto Beans - Vecna to Bob to Vecna
Pico - ?
Chicken - Jamie
Napkins - ?

Filling in gaps is useful. This is current position before today's swaparound
And I forgot cheese what's happened that?
Cheese was stolen from brainfischgray to 3P!

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#4704 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:49 am

Vecna wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:46 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:43 am
You know the 3P doesn't just visit someone and scoop up any items they're holding, right?

To steal an item the 3P has to pick a person and successfully guess which item they are holding.

The chances of the 3P successfully guessing Ghug's item on N1, and for some reason making that item a priority for them to steal, is surely very small.

I think Ghug is smart enough to see this.
Are you seriously pretending you are unaware the 3P has a day ability?
Oh I did actually forget that, sorry.

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#4705 Post by Vecna » Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:50 am

snowy801 wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:47 am
foodcoats wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:42 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:15 am
To point out what I was doing D3 EOD, I was trying to make Macca a viable DK after he declared his 3P item to see if the 3P would get on the wagon, and Vecna did get on the wagon when a Macca DK looked possible, but moved back to no-kill when it was obvious a Macca DK was not going to happen. There was no reason for Vecna to move back to no-kill there if he was really interested in a Macca DK, except for appearances.
I’m still catching up but damn this is the bozo I came here to sheep.
I thought you were going to sheep me!
I sad.

New question for those who stand accused of being 3P (and assorted peanut gallery).

Who do we want to Hot Salsa tomorrow, to gain optimal effects?
Depending on who we daykill today, either me, Maniac or the last scum.

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#4706 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:51 am

So, nobody has claimed Roleblock from last night.

I think the Scum would try to Roleblock the Third Party which presumably they knew wasn't Hamilton Brian since it appears clear Tom was lying about that.

So that is probably why whoever was Roleblocked is not telling us. This suggests the scum may have identified the correct 3P now.

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#4707 Post by Vecna » Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:52 am

or they just roleblocked bob?

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#4708 Post by damo666 » Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:53 am

It would be very helpful to know current whereabouts of all the 3p items. Please declare if you have any, you can give it away.

White rice - Damo to snowy to damo
Brown Rice - Macca to Bob to Snowy
Black Beans - ?
Pinto Beans - Vecna to Bob to Vecna
Pico - ?
Chicken - Jamie
Napkins - ?
Cheese - kgray to 3p

Filling in gaps is useful. This is current position before today's swaparound

Updated. I doubt we get more info than this.

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#4709 Post by damo666 » Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:05 pm

Neither Bozo nor Maniac have been on a lead wagon so cannot be anywhere near winning if 3p. [Maniac could of course be mafia]

Of the remaining 3p candidates

Food can have 4 max (but prob max 3)
Jamie can have 5 max (but prob max 4)
Vecna could have 4 max (but isn't mafia)

This means Jamie ought to be the dk BUT he has chicken so it would be too easy for 3p to jump on if Jamie isn't 3p.

I think ##vote food is the way to go.

IT IS IMPERATIVE NO 3p ITEM is passed to any if the above named 5 (obviously).

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#4710 Post by Macca573 » Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:07 pm

Vecna wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:31 am
Macca573 wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:59 am
The Bozo vote was a joke, however...




Reading through, Bozo had me totally convinced that Vecna was 3p. Then Vecna got on and convinced me it was Bozo. I don't see why snowy thinks it's Maniac.

I had a townread on Vecna early, and not bozo. For this reason, I will leave my vote where it is for now.
I no longer think its bozo
k. ##UNVOTE

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#4711 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:08 pm

damo666 wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:05 pm
IT IS IMPERATIVE NO 3p ITEM is passed to any if the above named 5 (obviously).
I endorse this message.

I don't want all your shop-soiled, used up items anyway.

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#4712 Post by foodcoats » Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:20 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:56 am
Maniac wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:01 am
D2 is interesting. Foodcoats hammered and helped catch Mafia. That would be such high level bussing that I just don’t think it’s possible he did that. But he did ensure he was able to control a kill and be on the wagon. Possible 3P sign.

Foodcoats also gets mega 3P points for yesterday’s kill. As an unclear there was no good reason why he was on Tom’s wagon.

I know it’s tempting to vote of people who could be 3P or Mafia, but if we’re taking the best option we should be killing 3P today. If we get that right I’m sure we’ll catch Mafia almost be POE. ##voteFoodcoats
Aha.
You can’t say I’m a good 3P for being on two wagons and Vecna is not for being on ALL wagons. I am less likely 3P than Vecna from an objective standpoint.

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#4713 Post by foodcoats » Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:24 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:54 am
Vecna wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 6:31 am
Also, the obvious logic about what happened is this;

Scum hit Commuting Ghug N2. Then shot him with the loaded gun D3 since they didnt wanna deal with him being all smug and towncleared and the like.

This is why TomB was sad for being caught for the wrong reasons, and tried to spin it in a different way as to them hitting the 3P.

This also completely invalidates Bozo's theory.

(and Snowy, the fact you were actually believing it is fucking cringe)
This need Ghug not commuting D1. You are better then this.
Can someone explain the commute to me? I was thinking it was Driver, derp.

What I’m confused about is how long the effect works. The description says you take it during the day “and no one can approach you.” Does it cover an entire day/night cycle?

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#4714 Post by foodcoats » Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:25 pm

damo666 wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:57 am
It would be very helpful to know current whereabouts of all the 3p items. Please declare if you have any, you can give it away.

White rice - Damo to snowy to damo
Brown Rice - Macca to Bob to ?
Black Beans - ?
Pinto Beans - Vecna to Bob to donee/scum
Pico - ?
Chicken - Jamie
Napkins - ?

Filling in gaps is useful. This is current position before today's swaparound
I do not have any 3P items.

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#4715 Post by foodcoats » Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:27 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:46 am
foodcoats wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:42 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:15 am
To point out what I was doing D3 EOD, I was trying to make Macca a viable DK after he declared his 3P item to see if the 3P would get on the wagon, and Vecna did get on the wagon when a Macca DK looked possible, but moved back to no-kill when it was obvious a Macca DK was not going to happen. There was no reason for Vecna to move back to no-kill there if he was really interested in a Macca DK, except for appearances.
I’m still catching up but damn this is the bozo I came here to sheep.
You are in Bozo's scum-pool so that's interesting.
I don’t think it would be interesting regardless of my alignment. Why can’t scum!food or 3P!food pocket town!bozo by claiming to sheep him?

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#4716 Post by foodcoats » Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:31 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:01 am
foodcoats wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:47 am
snowy801 wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:40 am
@bozo if scum have replenish and steak, why haven't I been murdered?

Did damo use it before giving it away? I forget if he did.
Sorry… why do we think scum has the gun? I was thinking 3P lucksacked into it… the letter bozo got interacting with the gunshot weirdly suggested they were held by different people. Perhaps too much a coincidence that ghug was the subject of both, though… but if ghug did have beans, and Vecna shot him, that is what allowed 3P! Vecna to dispense with his other beans.
Well Bozo's theory was that scum sent him the napkin message, and then shot Ghug.

I didn't think it was a very good theory when Bozo suggested it.
Yeah I don’t find it compelling myself. I think it’s more likely 3P got the gun and had item-scanned ghug. Although, reading the actual mechanics, I don’t know why 3P would not have stolen N1 if at EOD1 they learned from their scan that ghug had black beans or whatever.

Unless damo is 3P and was RBd but yeah I don’t see that.

So… not really sure.

I’m not even sure the gun stuff matters, it’s almost a red herring now. What matters is where those napkins are. I’m not sure why snowy thinks bozo has the napkins… seems more likely that scum have the napkins.

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#4717 Post by foodcoats » Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:33 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:02 am
foodcoats wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:00 am
Tom wagon?

I did it with one minute to go. I was being polite.
The timing is irrelevant if you're the 3P getting on the wagon in order to obtain an item.
I think it is relevant because town failed to get the hammer on, but, fine.

The same argument then applies to anyone else if timing and reasoning is irrelevant. This is why Vecna is sus to me.

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#4718 Post by foodcoats » Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:36 pm

Vecna wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:39 am
foodcoats wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:42 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:15 am
To point out what I was doing D3 EOD, I was trying to make Macca a viable DK after he declared his 3P item to see if the 3P would get on the wagon, and Vecna did get on the wagon when a Macca DK looked possible, but moved back to no-kill when it was obvious a Macca DK was not going to happen. There was no reason for Vecna to move back to no-kill there if he was really interested in a Macca DK, except for appearances.
I’m still catching up but damn this is the bozo I came here to sheep.
The fact youre just taking this as gospel just once again shows youre just willing to follow anything at this point.

Bozo claims he did it to trap the 3p and says I took the bait. Yet I was telling people to kill Macca way before he even did that, and way before he did that was I voting there.

Bozo said I had no reason to change back to vote no kill. This is complete bullshit, since i had already told snowy I would likely do so, but more important it was 5 for no kill and 4 votes for snowy. There was no way in hell I was gonna risk snowy getting hammered there. A possibility made possible by....who?

Bozo. He put snowy there on 4v5 and in the risk zone.

This is exactly the type of post of a person that just knows that Bozo is town and is looking for easy reasons to now suddenly townread them.

This was absolutely not the post to townread Bozo over.
Hmmm no bozo has changed tack a lot over the past like 24-48 hours, I am liking them a lot and I got excited. Maybe bozo was WRONG but that doesn’t mean I don’t see town thinking/motivation in bozo.

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#4719 Post by foodcoats » Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:38 pm

Vecna wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:42 am
foodcoats wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:04 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 7:51 am


If celaph or ghug had randomly received a 3P needed item from Bonatogether D1, it would have cleared 7 other players from being the 3P, there is no way they would not have reported it. That means one of you, Maniac, and kgray would have to be mafia.
I’m on mobile but celaph made an N1 post where he highlighted the mechanics and it looked like maaaaaaybe he was softing he received a non 3P item. But it’s a stretch.

quoting the post below. Could you please explain how that one post he made would indicate it?

celaph wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:07 pm
worcej wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:09 pm
So why did everyone flash onto Bona exactly?
Assuming you're talking about the votes in the last minute...
Chaqa wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:59 pm
When a player is day-killed, their item(s) are distributed at random to someone on the wagon. If the day-killed person possessed any of Chaqa’s goal items, he will receive them if he is on the wagon.
As for the other votes, I'm not entirely sure. Will give more thought and analysis later.
Because he bolded. I said it was a stretch.

It’s also largely not relevant, it’s just hypothesizing. You want to scum/3P me over tossing out an idea? Ya rite bud

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#4720 Post by foodcoats » Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:40 pm

Maniac wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:43 am
Vecna wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 6:31 am
Also, the obvious logic about what happened is this;

Scum hit Commuting Ghug N2. Then shot him with the loaded gun D3 since they didnt wanna deal with him being all smug and towncleared and the like.

This is why TomB was sad for being caught for the wrong reasons, and tried to spin it in a different way as to them hitting the 3P.

This also completely invalidates Bozo's theory.

(and Snowy, the fact you were actually believing it is fucking cringe)
Is this the same Tom that assured us that HamB was 3P or BulletProof? I don’t buy that he was sad or caught by happenstance. I think you roleblocked him and for some reason he (or scum team) thought it was a good idea for GF to carry out the NK.

There is a not-zero chance scum knew they were going to go down to 2 players and wanted to clear HB by throwing shade on him. We’ve helped them with that clearing him of being 3P. It would be a great Mafia move, but we shouldn’t discount it. HamB shouldn’t be today’s kill.

Whilst I’m voting Foodcoats, I’m quite happy to step away from any kill. Only clears should be DK people now.
Ah this is actually a good point. If HB is scum he could have intentionally handed off all his items except the corn salsa he’d claimed. That would explain why he wasn’t laden with booty.

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