M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#681 Post by BobMcBob » Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:52 pm

damo666 wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:56 pm
Vecna wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:15 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:38 pm
Post requirement fulfilled.

Where is rdr?

Why is nobody else voting Bona?

How do you pronounce ghug and lfischl and xorxes?
im wondering actually if this was Damo's bussing post.

Shortly after it he finds reasons to vote someone else, I think - but he's setting himself up so he can bus Bona potentially.

Im fitting the narritive, but it fits quite well. The sudden scumread on Bona feels quite strong for no real reason, but thats exactly how I feel scum would navigate the bus here.
I have mostly agreed with your posts this game but you are way off the mark here.

I'll make you an offer. Tell me whether to move my vote back to Bona or not. I promise to comply.
this one doesnt sit right
super awful way to try and get cred
and also probably not one vecna will like which is confusing
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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#682 Post by BobMcBob » Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:57 pm

celaph wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:12 pm
BobMcBob wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:38 am
celaph wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:58 am

Do you think that Worcej and Jamie are scum together or that you think that they are both independently scummy? The former seems weak at best given how little interaction they've had.

Do you have reasons to suspect snowy besides his early posting?
snowy has done nothing other than early posting
what else is there to suspect?
It is a question of what beyond his first post, if anything, was drawing Bozo's suspicion.
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:27 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:17 pm
u-uwu?
snowy only posts this early when he is mafia.

##VOTE snowy
okay that makes more sense in context
carry on
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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#683 Post by BobMcBob » Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:03 am

snowy801 wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:30 pm
On foodcoats, I want to comment that

1) He said he would sheep Bona or I before the game started
2) If he rolled scum, following that procedure thoughtlessly may well be exactly what he would do anyway

Still chewing on that myself
interesting...
this makes food look slightly better i guess?
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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#684 Post by BobMcBob » Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:09 am

worcej wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:44 pm
BobMcBob wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:26 pm
worcej wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:55 pm
Still kinda vibey but with a little more.

Why is asking too many questions bad? I've never seen you apply this reasoning to other notorious question askers.
because the questions sucked?
none of them felt like they were actually trying to accomplish anything
they were just... there
and ill have you know i caught scum in champs d1 with this logic
nobody else caught them
just me
still annoyed about that one
What makes the questions suck exactly?
You indicated that you've had enough of the wooshtej chatter. Do you suspect any of the three major participants hide malicious intent?
Has it ever occurred to you that people's tolerance of you may grow lesser after repeat violations of the common social trust respect is built upon?
From that I infer that you did intend to vote for ghug. What made you choose him, of the 16 people left in the game?
i mean partially the phrasing makes them seem worse than they are
but also mostly theyre just super surface level and yet simultaneously misguided
like "what did you glean about the alignments of people involved in jokingly arguing about name pronunciation?" is not a good question
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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#685 Post by ghug » Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:10 am

BobMcBob wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:46 pm
okay, sucks that bona was town here, my bad
Dislike this post.
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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#686 Post by BobMcBob » Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:12 am

worcej wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:46 pm
BobMcBob wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:53 pm
day 1 scumteam guess for bonus points
snowy, bona, bozo, worcej
Why?
snowy, i explained
bona, i explained
bozo, i think i may have explained, it was pretty similar to vecnas thoughts
you were tacked on mainly for bona interactions although thats moot now obviously
food can take the next slot now
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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#687 Post by BobMcBob » Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:13 am

ghug wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:10 am
BobMcBob wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:46 pm
okay, sucks that bona was town here, my bad
Dislike this post.
i am really tempted to write a limerick right now
also considering just never responding to flips again, it never seems to help
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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#688 Post by BobMcBob » Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:17 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:04 pm
worcej wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:53 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:09 pm


I am not sure I buy this post progression. You made a prediction noting you were "catching up", then as soon as your prediction is verified, you suddenly stop responding to posts in order. Also, it seems you have now progressed past my question about Kakarroto's post and have ignored it.

##VOTE worcej
Really? You don't buy me calling your usual 'hey, let's mass claim X' bullshit?

It doesn't take much effort to go through the bot and look back at your games and find these pushes from you.

And the out of order thing I'm struggling with - I usually try to be 'in order' but will jump to direct responses as I see things come up.
The part that I am not sure I believe is your implication that you had not read ahead and did not know that I listed you as my top scum read before you voted for me for a different reason.

Also, I never called for a mass claim, but there may be a point in the game where it would be a good idea for town to have everyone claim their original item to keep the mafia from CCing the potential town clears.
oh dear... this one stinks
a massclaim is not a great idea now, but later in the game?
really, really awful
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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#689 Post by bozotheclown » Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:19 am

I am sorry I missed EOD.
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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#690 Post by bozotheclown » Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:23 am

There was not much participation in my survey request. The mafia have a good reason to avoid going on record with a full reads ranking, but too many town ignored my request and let the mafia off the hook.

Here was my list:

1. bozo
2. Kakarroto
3. BobMcBob
4. cel​aph
5. Bonatogether
6. Vecna
7. ghug
8. HB
9. lfischl
10. damo
11. rdrivera
12. Macca
13. snowy
​14. Maniac
15. Jamie
16. foodcoats
17. worcej

Numbers 14, 15, and 17 all started scum reading me after I posted this list, I don't think that was a coincidence.
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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#691 Post by bozotheclown » Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:27 am

@ Kakarroto, cel​aph, ghug, HB, lfischl, rdrivera, Macca, Maniac, Jamie, foodcoats, worcej: Why did you ignore my survey request?
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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#692 Post by bozotheclown » Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:30 am

BobMcBob wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:17 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:04 pm
worcej wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:53 pm
Really? You don't buy me calling your usual 'hey, let's mass claim X' bullshit?

It doesn't take much effort to go through the bot and look back at your games and find these pushes from you.

And the out of order thing I'm struggling with - I usually try to be 'in order' but will jump to direct responses as I see things come up.
The part that I am not sure I believe is your implication that you had not read ahead and did not know that I listed you as my top scum read before you voted for me for a different reason.

Also, I never called for a mass claim, but there may be a point in the game where it would be a good idea for town to have everyone claim their original item to keep the mafia from CCing the potential town clears.
oh dear... this one stinks
a massclaim is not a great idea now, but later in the game?
really, really awful
How do you know there will not be a time later in the game when a mass claim will be helpful to town? For instance, in M1017, if I was town I might have suggested the PRs claim at the beginning of D2 considering the game state.
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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#693 Post by bozotheclown » Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:32 am

worcej wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:38 pm
ghug wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:35 pm
[quote=worcej post_id=248433 time=<a href="tel:1628015521">1628015521</a> user_id=857]
[quote=ghug post_id=248429 time=<a href="tel:1628015128">1628015128</a> user_id=51]
[quote=worcej post_id=248428 time=<a href="tel:1628015101">1628015101</a> user_id=857]
He is OMGUS'ing and is tunneling, which I believe when I see him tunnel he usually is scum.
How has bozo's decision to stop pushing the mass claim (before you ever questioned it) affected your read of him?
Now you’re just being annoying.
[/quote]

Maybe if you'd answer my question...
[/quote]I kinda am - it has changed from policy kill to actually seeing him as potential scum because of his development of a case on me. It’s opportunistic and lacking merit.
[/quote]

"Opportunistic" and "lacking merit" are two meaningless terms scum like to use when fabricating reads.
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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#694 Post by BobMcBob » Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:35 am

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:42 pm
BobMcBob wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:22 pm
ooh, a ranking list gambit?
sign me up!

1. bob
2. kak
3. macca
4. celaph
5. bozo
6. vecna
7. hb
8. worcej
9. damo
10. jamie
11. ghug
12. maniac
13. food
14. lfischl
15. maniac
16. bona
17. snowy

its something like that at least
Why there is two Maniacs and no rivera on this list. Have I been subbed out for inactivity?
the funniest thing about this by far is that two town got miskilled for this in champs
i did not proofread the list and had completely forgotten you had signed up, no offense
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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#695 Post by bozotheclown » Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:37 am

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:57 pm
Ok nobody is helping me.

##Vote Bozo for voting his 5th scumread
Either you are not paying attention if you do not know why I was voting for snowy at that time, or you are scum.
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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#696 Post by BobMcBob » Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:37 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:30 am
BobMcBob wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:17 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:04 pm


The part that I am not sure I believe is your implication that you had not read ahead and did not know that I listed you as my top scum read before you voted for me for a different reason.

Also, I never called for a mass claim, but there may be a point in the game where it would be a good idea for town to have everyone claim their original item to keep the mafia from CCing the potential town clears.
oh dear... this one stinks
a massclaim is not a great idea now, but later in the game?
really, really awful
How do you know there will not be a time later in the game when a mass claim will be helpful to town? For instance, in M1017, if I was town I might have suggested the PRs claim at the beginning of D2 considering the game state.
because the later in the game we go, the more dead people there are, and the more the items switch positions making it super easy for fake claims to happen
if there isnt enough benefit now, therell be even less later in the game
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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#697 Post by BobMcBob » Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:40 am

snowy801 wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:46 pm
Do we have any concerns that any of our bottom posters will continue to remain so?

13 Hamilton Brian
8 foodcoats
8 Macca
6 Kakarotto
3 Maniac
2 lfischl
1 rdrivera

From recent experience I would probably not be concerned about HB, foodcoats, (and maybe very generously) rdrivera who is low but at least plays.

I recall Maniac being a prolific poster in the past.

Macca, lfischl, Kakarotto, maybe more

Thoughts?
kak and maniac will probably produce a good amount of content at least
lfischl could go either way
macca has every risk of remaining a low poster for a while to come
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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#698 Post by bozotheclown » Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:41 am

BobMcBob wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:37 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:30 am
BobMcBob wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:17 am

oh dear... this one stinks
a massclaim is not a great idea now, but later in the game?
really, really awful
How do you know there will not be a time later in the game when a mass claim will be helpful to town? For instance, in M1017, if I was town I might have suggested the PRs claim at the beginning of D2 considering the game state.
because the later in the game we go, the more dead people there are, and the more the items switch positions making it super easy for fake claims to happen
if there isnt enough benefit now, therell be even less later in the game
It was unfortunate Bonatogether was DKed D1 when not available at EOD, because that means it is possible he had a town clearing item. However, hopefully most town with town clearing items will be around later to claim their starting item.
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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#699 Post by BobMcBob » Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:46 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:41 am
BobMcBob wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:37 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:30 am


How do you know there will not be a time later in the game when a mass claim will be helpful to town? For instance, in M1017, if I was town I might have suggested the PRs claim at the beginning of D2 considering the game state.
because the later in the game we go, the more dead people there are, and the more the items switch positions making it super easy for fake claims to happen
if there isnt enough benefit now, therell be even less later in the game
It was unfortunate Bonatogether was DKed D1 when not available at EOD, because that means it is possible he had a town clearing item. However, hopefully most town with town clearing items will be around later to claim their starting item.
i would once again like to mark down bozo as scum
this is not a good idea
claiming at eod is fine, but should be considered with suspicion
massclaiming, horrible idea
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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#700 Post by BobMcBob » Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:48 am

celaph wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:48 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:48 pm
Vecna wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:23 pm
caught for the wrong reasons? 8-)
Not caught.
Perhaps I'm reading too much into this, but this wording feels scummy. Does town really say that they were not caught?
if the town is damo, it seems relatively in character
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