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Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:59 pm
by snowy801
I want to have a discussion on that too.

I really disliked no night chat. If we want to stop last second claims we should have a no last hour chat.

Thoughts?

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:59 pm
by ghug
Vecna wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:55 pm
I still dont know wtf I was thinking, trying to claim Bozo was tunneling in a non-scummy way lol
Yeah that post really pinged me.

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:00 pm
by worcej
ghug wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:56 pm
I love that I spent the whole night thinking that Chaqa was going to try to work with scum to deny me a victory out of spite, and mafia spent the whole night thinking that the entire town was going to jester claim.
I thought that was a genius move a couple town could've made to throw you off, but the scum believed your claim enough imho.

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:01 pm
by ghug
snowy801 wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:59 pm
I want to have a discussion on that too.

I really disliked no night chat. If we want to stop last second claims we should have a no last hour chat.

Thoughts?
Agreed. Losing the nights really kills momentum.

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:02 pm
by ghug
worcej wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:00 pm
ghug wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:56 pm
I love that I spent the whole night thinking that Chaqa was going to try to work with scum to deny me a victory out of spite, and mafia spent the whole night thinking that the entire town was going to jester claim.
I thought that was a genius move a couple town could've made to throw you off, but the scum believed your claim enough imho.
I figured town knew they'd lost and would just go straight to Diplomacy if they wanted to deny me a win. I'm sure Vecna at least could be persuaded by a #fuckghug.

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:07 pm
by worcej
snowy801 wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:59 pm
I want to have a discussion on that too.

I really disliked no night chat. If we want to stop last second claims we should have a no last hour chat.

Thoughts?
I think that's an interesting move (no posting in last hout) to make for nights - it would be enough time to allow a scum team to adjust their targets as needed.

Otherwise, I just stated my take already, so see that post.

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:08 pm
by snowy801
ghug wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:02 pm
worcej wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:00 pm
ghug wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:56 pm
I love that I spent the whole night thinking that Chaqa was going to try to work with scum to deny me a victory out of spite, and mafia spent the whole night thinking that the entire town was going to jester claim.
I thought that was a genius move a couple town could've made to throw you off, but the scum believed your claim enough imho.
I figured town knew they'd lost and would just go straight to Diplomacy if they wanted to deny me a win. I'm sure Vecna at least could be persuaded by a #fuckghug.
I probably would've tbh
alas, dead

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:08 pm
by Chaqa
ghug wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:56 pm
I love that I spent the whole night thinking that Chaqa was going to try to work with scum to deny me a victory out of spite, and mafia spent the whole night thinking that the entire town was going to jester claim.
I gave up on this game literally the second snowy died.

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:10 pm
by snowy801
foodcoats, Brian

I left a question for you in God QT. Really interesting in hearing your thoughts, you two are the people I keep my eye out most in these games, trying to figure out what you're thinking (when I'm dead)

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:13 pm
by ghug
worcej wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:07 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:59 pm
I want to have a discussion on that too.

I really disliked no night chat. If we want to stop last second claims we should have a no last hour chat.

Thoughts?
I think that's an interesting move (no posting in last hout) to make for nights - it would be enough time to allow a scum team to adjust their targets as needed.

Otherwise, I just stated my take already, so see that post.
I like that more, and I think it would have made sense in a setup like this, but I don't think we need to be giving scum more advantages in general.

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:18 pm
by snowy801
So when's M69?

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:19 pm
by President Eden
Rivera never(TM) counterclaims Cop as mafia there

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:23 pm
by foodcoats
snowy801 wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:57 pm
Vecna wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:52 pm
well played btw snowy, you were sick
Always am.
Some day people will see the pattern.
FWIW it was easier to believe bozo’s claim partially because you were really arrogant and outright insulted other players in the game. It made it harder to believe you were town because you didn’t seem to like the town.

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:24 pm
by foodcoats
GG scum.

Thanks for GMing worcej!

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:28 pm
by snowy801
foodcoats wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:23 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:57 pm
Vecna wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:52 pm
well played btw snowy, you were sick
Always am.
Some day people will see the pattern.
FWIW it was easier to believe bozo’s claim partially because you were really arrogant and outright insulted other players in the game. It made it harder to believe you were town because you didn’t seem to like the town.
Yeah but I was insulting bozo who was scum
That's not a crime under internationally laws I think

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:07 pm
by rdrivera2005
foodcoats wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:23 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:57 pm
Vecna wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:52 pm
well played btw snowy, you were sick
Always am.
Some day people will see the pattern.
FWIW it was easier to believe bozo’s claim partially because you were really arrogant and outright insulted other players in the game. It made it harder to believe you were town because you didn’t seem to like the town.
You have played enough to see that people tend to be more polite as scum. Vecna was fluffy this game, it was obviously scum Vecna.

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:10 pm
by Johnny Big Horse
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:51 pm
Vecna wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:36 pm
oh, we were handed the win

Technically it wasnt over yet. If we killed ghug today, or tied the vote, a docsave wouldve still won town the game.

But....im fine with this outcome ;)
I confess I don't have the time or the will to keep playing, even if there was a small chance. I probably handled badly my claim, so I take my share of the blame.

Sorry for not entering orders at night but I knew the scumteam so it won't make any difference.

And I stand to what I said yesterday. I won't play again with people who refuse to learn how to play. Being wrong is part of the learning experience but if you refuse to understand how the game works you will never learn and will just screw the game to the others.

The setup is really hard for town, I think the Jester isn't really an interesting role, you have basically an auto win as Jester, maybe it could be better if you have to be DKed on the first two days otherwise you become town, this could make it more interesting and balanced and allow for interesting play.
I will quit. That is fine. It is your community, not mine. You guys built it, not me.

I was learning the game. This was my second game. I guess you wanted me to learn faster than I did.

Fine. I am out. Keep playing. I don't want to spoil your fun.

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:17 pm
by snowy801
Johnny Big Horse wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:10 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:51 pm
Vecna wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:36 pm
oh, we were handed the win

Technically it wasnt over yet. If we killed ghug today, or tied the vote, a docsave wouldve still won town the game.

But....im fine with this outcome ;)
I confess I don't have the time or the will to keep playing, even if there was a small chance. I probably handled badly my claim, so I take my share of the blame.

Sorry for not entering orders at night but I knew the scumteam so it won't make any difference.

And I stand to what I said yesterday. I won't play again with people who refuse to learn how to play. Being wrong is part of the learning experience but if you refuse to understand how the game works you will never learn and will just screw the game to the others.

The setup is really hard for town, I think the Jester isn't really an interesting role, you have basically an auto win as Jester, maybe it could be better if you have to be DKed on the first two days otherwise you become town, this could make it more interesting and balanced and allow for interesting play.
I will quit. That is fine. It is your community, not mine. You guys built it, not me.

I was learning the game. This was my second game. I guess you wanted me to learn faster than I did.

Fine. I am out. Keep playing. I don't want to spoil your fun.
Try spectating a few games and hop back in when you feel you have a better grasp on core concepts! Nobody's asking you to catch the entire scum team d2, just understand how when two people are counter claiming a role they can't both be town.

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:24 pm
by Johnny Big Horse
But you know what, I didn't vote for Snowy. That is fine to blame me, but the blame is misplaced. You experts are the ones who are consistently losing. I didn't lose this game for you.

Re: Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:28 pm
by snowy801
Johnny Big Horse wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:24 pm
But you know what, I didn't vote for Snowy. That is fine to blame me, but the blame is misplaced. You experts are the ones who are consistently losing. I didn't lose this game for you.
No, no. Wrong take. Just because they're wrong (and honestly rdrivera was not one of the wrong people - in fact he had this game in hand) doesn't make you right.

One and a half games in, you cannot come into d3 after what transpired in d2 thinking bozo is jester. That is a representative of the core issue: reads can be wrong, but your grasp of revealed facts in the game cannot.