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damo666 wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 08, 2021 5:01 pm

foodcoats wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:27 pm

damo666 wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:13 pm

ghug & 1 of rdr/Chaqa & someone like JBH works.

I am willing to switch to ghug if he becomes a viable wagon.

What do you think of rdr following snowy today, and how he has explained why he is sheeping/aligning with snowy so tightly?

I don't think he has explained it really. As to what I think of it, it's lazy but perhaps rdr has his reasons (which to me would indicate a ghug/Chaqa/? scumteam fwiw).

How does this logic flow? I'm afraid I failed to follow the reasoning

##vote damo

foodcoats wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:25 pm

snowy801 wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:22 pm

foodcoats wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:14 pm

##VOTE ghug

Lots of mentions of ghug. Ghug converges to many points of possible scummery and/or jestery. I think pound for pound ghug is a good boat to send down the river today.

How do you feel about Vecna parking on you? Do you think it's coming from a good place? or just an easy way to drop an off-wagon that can be used to consolidate later? Or something else?

Good question. He doesn't seem terribly convinced that I am scum, or that anyone else will believe I am scum, either. I think the act of saying... "I want to interrogate... this person!" is inherently townie, so that gives Vecna town points. I think the parking can be done from either alignment... town!Vecna may not have found a new person he wants to vote yet. scum!Vecna might be having trouble moving around because the game feels really townie in general and he doesn't want to give away anything.

Honestly Vecna could be scum here, but he might not be. I said earlier that he wasn't NK'd and that might be suspicious but there's also a Doctor in play, so NKing darg made sense.

So for me Vecna is full on null. He feels townie in his posts but Vecna is obviously good enough to look townie as scum. If there wasn't a great respect for Vecna he might become a wagon. I think if Vecna is scum we won't catch him first, we have to get a partner and find the links. Such is the nature of reputation in the webDip Mafia meta.

If Venka is mafia, then vote for him. Better to remove a mafioso than a jester.

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:43 pm

Interesting that we had four votes on Damo and all four have moved.

Food, Hamilton, Rivera, and Snowy.

Damo followed food onto ghug.

Seems possible to me Damo-Food are teammates. Both helped bear down on Bob.

Food has seemed pretty disingenuous too.

##Vote damo

Chaquito is scum #2. If you read his posts with this in mind, it seems clear... at least to me.

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:47 pm

I think I'm limiting my vote today to Damo, Bozo, Ghug, Johnny.

All of which are town. Chaquito is Mafia

Johnny Big Horse wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 08, 2021 5:16 pm

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:47 pm

I think I'm limiting my vote today to Damo, Bozo, Ghug, Johnny.

All of which are town. Chaquito is Mafia

Sorry Johnny, your horse left its marbles at home today.

Damn Chaqa you're being banished to the shadow realm

ghug and damo actively dodging my question sadge

So, a reads list. I need it as much for myself as to sate snowy and HB's appetites.

1. Brian - No particular reason to scumread Hamilton, no particular reason to think he is strongly town either than just his meta looking pretty standard. Good catch by... Vecna? that he made more reads earlier than he usually does. He was also off in that group of 4 people I thought could be scum from EOD1 VCA. So... very slightly scumlean.
2. ghug - ghug isn't very focused and the Jester claim/retraction at death threat makes me think there's a strong case for ghug to actually be the Jester.
3. dargorygel - town
4. bozo - bozo is particularly tunneled. There are some arguments saying he tunnels this way as town or that he tunnels like this as scum. I don't think I've ever played against scum bozo. I think that in general his tunneling strikes me as authentic. On the other hand, it gets thinner the longer this goes on because it's surprising he isn't looking at the rest of the board. Very slight townlean.
5. foodcoats
6. damo666 - seemed more active D1 than he usually does when he is town... but I'd hate to leave things on a meta call. Moved around a lot in his votes and was surprisingly active. Oof. On a meta call that's pretty odd. Scumlean.
7. Vecna - gonna leave Vecna at a big ol' null. I don't feel Vecna has been done anything to lean him either way. I don't feel he's as strongly town as I sometimes feel, but... that could be anything.
8. Johnny Big Horse - I think the townslips were genuine. Townread.
9. Rdrivera2005 - I'm a little skeeved out by rdr's play this game. He seems to have regurgitated a bunch and is sheeping snowy in a way that feels like he is pocketing. I'm not sure he would be this unsubtle as scum, but... scumlean.
10. Chaqa - I'll take the great efforts Chaqa is taking as town-indicative, despite ghug's warnings to the contrary. Townlean.
11. Snowy - I believe the RB claim unless provided with contrary evidence. Townread.
12. BobMcBob - town

##vote damo

##VOTE damo666

So for the record I guess my scumteam is damo, HB and rdr, and ghug is the Jester.

also willing to wagon Rdrivera to remove snowies head from arse

Vecna wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 08, 2021 5:31 pm

also willing to wagon Rdrivera to remove snowies head from arse

?

snowy801 wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 08, 2021 5:03 pm

damo666 wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 08, 2021 5:01 pm

foodcoats wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:27 pm

What do you think of rdr following snowy today, and how he has explained why he is sheeping/aligning with snowy so tightly?

I don't think he has explained it really. As to what I think of it, it's lazy but perhaps rdr has his reasons (which to me would indicate a ghug/Chaqa/? scumteam fwiw).

How does this logic flow? I'm afraid I failed to follow the reasoning

If i'm right rdr will.

Either Bozo is scum, and its him responding to the two people going against the grain (trying to tie them? He hasnt commented on bozo at all before that point)

Or Bozo is town, and he's trying to discredit people townreading him by using a faulty ass meta argument.

Either way, I really dont get how youre agreeing with that statement and townreading him over it.

snowy801 wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 08, 2021 5:23 pm

ghug and damo actively dodging my question sadge

what question?

also, his point that im supposed to interact with him early in the game is also based on very little, since we've been actively ignoring eachother in the early game for quite a long time now.

An interesting fact about vote counts: They are kinda unnecessary but an established tradition to show you (the players) that the GM is present.

Vote Count:
damo666 (4) Chaqa, snowy801, Vecna, foodcoats
snowy801 (2) bozotheclown, Hamilton Brian
Vecna (2) Johnny Big Horse, ghug
bozotheclown (1) rdrivera2005
ghug (1) damo666

Currently the interesting facts topic is set to be about mathematicians.

3 hours and 10 minutes left of the phase.

Does anyone else think it's super weird for damo to come in and slyly start hinting at PR reads out of nowhere

Like what purpose does his comment serve, other than to PR hunt?