Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

[rdrivera2005]

jbh seems fun
dargo has been fine
chaqa is a bit eh, but i dont mind him
damo entry is very damo, but the lack of math is slightly disturbing
rdr is towncore
worcej probably scum

Purposefully posting a readslist that checks the box of every stereotype.

He knows he gonna get scumread for this. Jester-charts are peaking.

I think it was a joke. Reading the GM as scum and a no-poster as towncore points to a joke....

[rdrivera2005]

jbh seems fun
dargo has been fine
chaqa is a bit eh, but i dont mind him
damo entry is very damo, but the lack of math is slightly disturbing
rdr is towncore
worcej probably scum

Purposefully posting a readslist that checks the box of every stereotype.

He knows he gonna get scumread for this. Jester-charts are peaking.

readslists of questionable quality are a mainstay of my play
snapreads perhaps less so, but regardless

interesting fact: i got quite a bit of heat d1 for a not very good readslist in champs

It wasn't a joke? You can't be serious.

[BobMcBob]

Have I ever screamed scum? How do you plan to sort me?

tomorrow? its a relatively common tactic to leave you and bozo for later if memory serves

Do you understand the principles of this tactic, and agree with it? How would you say the alleged relative commonness of this tactic influence your decisions today?

the fact that it is common influences me less than the fact that it is just generally good
and yes i understand why its a thing

[BobMcBob]

Purposefully posting a readslist that checks the box of every stereotype.

He knows he gonna get scumread for this. Jester-charts are peaking.

readslists of questionable quality are a mainstay of my play
snapreads perhaps less so, but regardless

interesting fact: i got quite a bit of heat d1 for a not very good readslist in champs

It wasn't a joke? You can't be serious.

oh it was mostly a joke, especially those last two
i just wanted to fill out the list at the end there

[snowy801]

tomorrow? its a relatively common tactic to leave you and bozo for later if memory serves

Do you understand the principles of this tactic, and agree with it? How would you say the alleged relative commonness of this tactic influence your decisions today?

the fact that it is common influences me less than the fact that it is just generally good
and yes i understand why its a thing

For those of us who have been away for years, why is it a thing, and what makes it good?

[damo666]

It is anti-town to claim VT.

Snowy must know this.

Snowy claimed VT.

Therefore Snowy wants to appear anti-town.

Therefore Snowy wants to attract votes.

Therefore Snowy is the Jester.

I have also found snowy to be a bit “off.” Bob also mentioned this. In the previous game and GT snowy seemed very acute and invested. So far here snowy has avoided directly answering questions, gone off on tangents and also taken a bit of an aggressive and demeaning attitude. It does seem that snowy wants to be DK’d.

If snowy was the Jester, do you think this is how he would play? How do you think he’d play as scum with a Jester in play?

Yes.
Not like he is.

[damo666]

It is anti-town to claim VT.

Snowy must know this.

Snowy claimed VT.

Therefore Snowy wants to appear anti-town.

Therefore Snowy wants to attract votes.

Therefore Snowy is the Jester.

And he just happened to follow it up with a shitton of town-talk?

It appears very unlikely he gonna get it, so itd be pretty poor strategy.

Seems like a decent case of town, or proper scum-play.

Really dont see any (proper) argument for jester.

Doubt he's scum. Either jester or town.

[BobMcBob]

Do you understand the principles of this tactic, and agree with it? How would you say the alleged relative commonness of this tactic influence your decisions today?

the fact that it is common influences me less than the fact that it is just generally good
and yes i understand why its a thing

For those of us who have been away for years, why is it a thing, and what makes it good?

well in the case of bozo, he loves stats and is usually flops about on d1 without much impact or proposes a massclaim while he waits for info
once thats over you can start reading him properly

for vecna, he has selfproclaimed multiple times as easy to catch late game as scum
cant actually remember if thats true, but ill roll with it
as town hes a great leader while he lasts, so hes good to keep around

[BobMcBob]

also for the very little its worth, i doubt snowy is jester

[snowy801]

the fact that it is common influences me less than the fact that it is just generally good
and yes i understand why its a thing

For those of us who have been away for years, why is it a thing, and what makes it good?

well in the case of bozo, he loves stats and is usually flops about on d1 without much impact or proposes a massclaim while he waits for info
once thats over you can start reading him properly

for vecna, he has selfproclaimed multiple times as easy to catch late game as scum
cant actually remember if thats true, but ill roll with it
as town hes a great leader while he lasts, so hes good to keep around

How would you say these statements differentiate themselves from any generic statements you could make about any of the players in this game? You can easily make a case about how anyone is a bad d1 vote, and your bozo argument seems especially meritless. "He's useless as town d1 so we shouldn't vote him until later" - would you say that's a fair summary of what you said?

Why are these two individuals given preferential treatment over, say, rdrivera, ghug, chaqa or darg? (I'm just naming old names I know here)

[foodcoats]

@vecna

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?word=NAI&g=68

Yeah, i know it gets used a bit - its just strange to me you now feel its ignored too often and not looked into every little "x does y given z" opportunity given

Wow, I did not know you could search for terms. The bot is amazing.

[Vecna]

Purposefully posting a readslist that checks the box of every stereotype.

He knows he gonna get scumread for this. Jester-charts are peaking.

readslists of questionable quality are a mainstay of my play
snapreads perhaps less so, but regardless

interesting fact: i got quite a bit of heat d1 for a not very good readslist in champs

It wasn't a joke? You can't be serious.

The inclusion of the joke on top of the reads. It just screams to me like it was put there to be scumread.

[foodcoats]

It is anti-town to claim VT.

Snowy must know this.

Snowy claimed VT.

Therefore Snowy wants to appear anti-town.

Therefore Snowy wants to attract votes.

Therefore Snowy is the Jester.

I have also found snowy to be a bit “off.” Bob also mentioned this. In the previous game and GT snowy seemed very acute and invested. So far here snowy has avoided directly answering questions, gone off on tangents and also taken a bit of an aggressive and demeaning attitude. It does seem that snowy wants to be DK’d.

If snowy was the Jester, do you think this is how he would play? How do you think he’d play as scum with a Jester in play?

hows any of that different from last game exactly? And if anything, he's been quite responsive, no?

I may be misremembering last game, and I was DK'd D1. The main thing I remember of snowy is that he made a lot of long, impassioned posts that I feel had a different vibe from the ones he's made today.

I haven't concluded anything definitively from it yet, though, which is why I asked damo those questions.

[Vecna]

Purposefully posting a readslist that checks the box of every stereotype.

He knows he gonna get scumread for this. Jester-charts are peaking.

readslists of questionable quality are a mainstay of my play
snapreads perhaps less so, but regardless

interesting fact: i got quite a bit of heat d1 for a not very good readslist in champs

It wasn't a joke? You can't be serious.

Also, whats up with the tone-deafness Rdr?

You think id miss the detail of the joke in my commentary? You find it really strange that bob just responds to my post and ignores the joke-part as I (mostly) did>

[Vecna]

tomorrow? its a relatively common tactic to leave you and bozo for later if memory serves

Do you understand the principles of this tactic, and agree with it? How would you say the alleged relative commonness of this tactic influence your decisions today?

the fact that it is common influences me less than the fact that it is just generally good
and yes i understand why its a thing

Why dont you humor me and try to read me today, instead.

Just because youre not gonna get me killed today doesnt excuse the "ill just make up my mind if it lives" approach.

[Vecna]

It is anti-town to claim VT.

Snowy must know this.

Snowy claimed VT.

Therefore Snowy wants to appear anti-town.

Therefore Snowy wants to attract votes.

Therefore Snowy is the Jester.

And he just happened to follow it up with a shitton of town-talk?

It appears very unlikely he gonna get it, so itd be pretty poor strategy.

Seems like a decent case of town, or proper scum-play.

Really dont see any (proper) argument for jester.

Doubt he's scum. Either jester or town.

You doubt he could pull this off as scum, or you feel he's too scummy to be scum?

[foodcoats]

There is something I don't like about ghug. When I went to the bot to iso him, I was surprised to see he was the third highest poster. He has a number of insubstantial posts, which, to quote snowy, is not inherently a crime, but of those that are more substantial,

• he shades bozo for scumreading him without extensive evidence from past games, and talks about his own scum meta and why bozo's scumread of him doesn't fit his meta

• shades Bob for making the snowy wagon larger than it already was with a joke vote, while also remaining committed to the snowy wagon himself, while also saying he is complimenting snowy by being on his wagon (thus himself contributing to what he is effectively labelling a joke wagon)

• calls Chaqa scum but shades snowy for voting for Chaqa

Certainly I don't expect anyone to make a ton of sense on D1, but this looks quite wrong to me.

##VOTE ghug

[damo666]

And he just happened to follow it up with a shitton of town-talk?

It appears very unlikely he gonna get it, so itd be pretty poor strategy.

Seems like a decent case of town, or proper scum-play.

Really dont see any (proper) argument for jester.

Doubt he's scum. Either jester or town.

You doubt he could pull this off as scum, or you feel he's too scummy to be scum?

I don't think he would claim vt as scum.

[BobMcBob]

Do you understand the principles of this tactic, and agree with it? How would you say the alleged relative commonness of this tactic influence your decisions today?

the fact that it is common influences me less than the fact that it is just generally good
and yes i understand why its a thing

Why dont you humor me and try to read me today, instead.

Just because youre not gonna get me killed today doesnt excuse the "ill just make up my mind if it lives" approach.

town
happy now uncle vecna?

[BobMcBob]

For those of us who have been away for years, why is it a thing, and what makes it good?

well in the case of bozo, he loves stats and is usually flops about on d1 without much impact or proposes a massclaim while he waits for info
once thats over you can start reading him properly

for vecna, he has selfproclaimed multiple times as easy to catch late game as scum
cant actually remember if thats true, but ill roll with it
as town hes a great leader while he lasts, so hes good to keep around

How would you say these statements differentiate themselves from any generic statements you could make about any of the players in this game? You can easily make a case about how anyone is a bad d1 vote, and your bozo argument seems especially meritless. "He's useless as town d1 so we shouldn't vote him until later" - would you say that's a fair summary of what you said?

Why are these two individuals given preferential treatment over, say, rdrivera, ghug, chaqa or darg? (I'm just naming old names I know here)

uh yes, bozo is usually useless d1 and therefore we shouldnt vote him is correct
lacking a bit of nuance though
he is normally particularly noncommittal, doesnt really push anything other than mechs, as both alignments
however that changes on d2 when he actually starts analysing data and its a lot easier to read him then