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#21 Post by foodcoats » Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:57 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:33 pm
Also, since snowy claims to be a VT, there is a 6/10 chance he is a VT and 4/10 he is not town.
I don’t understand this math. Can you explain it?

Also, why/how does claiming VT affect the odds of snowy’s actual role?
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#22 Post by foodcoats » Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:01 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:36 pm
Johnny Big Horse wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:02 pm
I remember reading somewhere that the state of Wisconsin has the world's 4th largest army. That is, if you consider all gun owners army and you don't consider any other state in the US. Think about it...6 million people x 30% = 2 million fighters. Can't invade that.

Ok, no more irrelevant posts.
Wisconsin is listed as 28th among the states in gun ownership and 20th in population, so I do not know why Wisconsin would be singled out for this fact.
Do you find the fact itself odd or do you find it odd that Johnny chose this particular fact? If the latter, is there anything you would deduce about Johnny’s alignment based on him raising this fact?
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#23 Post by Hamilton Brian » Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:06 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:47 pm
Spotted HB lurking earlier.

While checking out the thread without posting is not an inherent crime, I will make a big deal out of it and try to get him voted later for it.
You obviously missed my post. Intentionally misconstruing isn’t necessarily town-like. I’m disappointed.
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#24 Post by foodcoats » Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:07 pm

Vecna wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:13 pm
Darg recently learned a new trick so if he townreads me, I shall probably townread him.

Ghug never learned a new trick, so I shall probably never townread him.

Johnny big horse is a multi-trick pony. I shall probably adore him.
What is the trick darg learned? Are you saying that you are inclined towards townreading people who townread you?

Are you saying ghug’s play is stale or stagnant and you find that inherently scummy/anti-town? Or is there something specific about ghug’s entrance that indicated to you he may not be town?

Is your comment about JBH relevant to his alignment in any way or just indicative of your respect for him as a player?
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#25 Post by foodcoats » Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:10 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:46 pm
dargorygel wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:22 pm
"few" is not two. Ever. I was condemned for this error as GM recently.
##VOTE snowy.
Also:
While many people would agree that "a few" means three or more, the actual dictionary definition of "a few" is, "not many but more than one." So, "a few" cannot be one, but it can be as low as two.
- some random website

darg caught blatantly lying in 4k. ##vote dargorygel

foodcoats, you live this time.

...but wait, could he just be the jester baiting the room with his filthy lies? Discuss
What kind of strategy/approach do you think the Jester would take in general? Do you think darg’s actions so far are in alignment with how you think the Jester might act?
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#26 Post by snowy801 » Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:15 pm

I'm aware. I saw him significantly later when more posts were made, and left without a word
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#27 Post by snowy801 » Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:16 pm

foodcoats wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:55 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:47 pm
Spotted HB lurking earlier.

While checking out the thread without posting is not an inherent crime, I will make a big deal out of it and try to get him voted later for it.
HB did post. What do you make of that?
Oh there's a page 2. This was the comment I was responding to in the above post
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#28 Post by snowy801 » Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:17 pm

foodcoats wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:57 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:33 pm
Also, since snowy claims to be a VT, there is a 6/10 chance he is a VT and 4/10 he is not town.
I don’t understand this math. Can you explain it?

Also, why/how does claiming VT affect the odds of snowy’s actual role?
He is taking my claim at face value and excluding me from the PR role, which are all town, hence reducing my likelihood of being town.
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#29 Post by snowy801 » Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:17 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:06 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:47 pm
Spotted HB lurking earlier.

While checking out the thread without posting is not an inherent crime, I will make a big deal out of it and try to get him voted later for it.
You obviously missed my post. Intentionally misconstruing isn’t necessarily town-like. I’m disappointed.
I misconstrue nothing. In general, posts like yours and foodcoats' are annoying. You assume that everything other people say is incorrect, which is a bad habit you should all grow out of.

I knew you made that post, yet my comment remains true
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#30 Post by snowy801 » Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:18 pm

foodcoats wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:10 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:46 pm
dargorygel wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:22 pm
"few" is not two. Ever. I was condemned for this error as GM recently.
##VOTE snowy.
Also:
While many people would agree that "a few" means three or more, the actual dictionary definition of "a few" is, "not many but more than one." So, "a few" cannot be one, but it can be as low as two.
- some random website

darg caught blatantly lying in 4k. ##vote dargorygel

foodcoats, you live this time.

...but wait, could he just be the jester baiting the room with his filthy lies? Discuss
What kind of strategy/approach do you think the Jester would take in general? Do you think darg’s actions so far are in alignment with how you think the Jester might act?
I mean if I were the jester, I think I would just try to be as scummy as possible without being too blatant. I do not believe our average town/mafia is capable of discerning between "scummy" and "trying to be scummy", so it is best to be scum read to not be shot, and potentially lynched.
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#31 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:22 pm

foodcoats wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:57 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:33 pm
Also, since snowy claims to be a VT, there is a 6/10 chance he is a VT and 4/10 he is not town.
I don’t understand this math. Can you explain it?

Also, why/how does claiming VT affect the odds of snowy’s actual role?
Assuming snowy would not fake claim VT as town, he has eliminated 2 possible roles, leaving 10 roles, 6 that are town and 4 that are not.
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#32 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:24 pm

foodcoats wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:01 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:36 pm
Johnny Big Horse wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:02 pm
I remember reading somewhere that the state of Wisconsin has the world's 4th largest army. That is, if you consider all gun owners army and you don't consider any other state in the US. Think about it...6 million people x 30% = 2 million fighters. Can't invade that.

Ok, no more irrelevant posts.
Wisconsin is listed as 28th among the states in gun ownership and 20th in population, so I do not know why Wisconsin would be singled out for this fact.
Do you find the fact itself odd or do you find it odd that Johnny chose this particular fact? If the latter, is there anything you would deduce about Johnny’s alignment based on him raising this fact?
I find it odd anyone would state this fact specifically for Wisconsin, but I do not find it alignment indicative.
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#33 Post by Johnny Big Horse » Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:25 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:36 pm
Johnny Big Horse wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:02 pm
I remember reading somewhere that the state of Wisconsin has the world's 4th largest army. That is, if you consider all gun owners army and you don't consider any other state in the US. Think about it...6 million people x 30% = 2 million fighters. Can't invade that.

Ok, no more irrelevant posts.
Wisconsin is listed as 28th among the states in gun ownership and 20th in population, so I do not know why Wisconsin would be singled out for this fact.
No reason at all. It is a small state. Imagine Texas.
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#34 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:27 pm

Johnny Big Horse wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:25 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:36 pm
Johnny Big Horse wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:02 pm
I remember reading somewhere that the state of Wisconsin has the world's 4th largest army. That is, if you consider all gun owners army and you don't consider any other state in the US. Think about it...6 million people x 30% = 2 million fighters. Can't invade that.

Ok, no more irrelevant posts.
Wisconsin is listed as 28th among the states in gun ownership and 20th in population, so I do not know why Wisconsin would be singled out for this fact.
No reason at all. It is a small state. Imagine Texas.
Are you from Wisconsin, or was the source of this fact local to Wisconsin?
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#35 Post by foodcoats » Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:28 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:17 pm
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:06 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:47 pm
Spotted HB lurking earlier.

While checking out the thread without posting is not an inherent crime, I will make a big deal out of it and try to get him voted later for it.
You obviously missed my post. Intentionally misconstruing isn’t necessarily town-like. I’m disappointed.
I misconstrue nothing. In general, posts like yours and foodcoats' are annoying. You assume that everything other people say is incorrect, which is a bad habit you should all grow out of.

I knew you made that post, yet my comment remains true
I didn’t assume you were incorrect. I was looking for clarification. Thank you for providing it.

Your comment remains true, but it is unclear what your position on it is, because you say that lurking is not a crime (which I take to mean not scummy) but that you will push to have HB daykilled for this.

Does that act of lurking make you scumread HB?
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#36 Post by Johnny Big Horse » Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:31 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:24 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:01 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:36 pm


Wisconsin is listed as 28th among the states in gun ownership and 20th in population, so I do not know why Wisconsin would be singled out for this fact.
Do you find the fact itself odd or do you find it odd that Johnny chose this particular fact? If the latter, is there anything you would deduce about Johnny’s alignment based on him raising this fact?
I find it odd anyone would state this fact specifically for Wisconsin, but I do not find it alignment indicative.
Well, to use the logic I am used to seeing here....

University of Wisconsin has a sports team, whose mascot is a badger, and the Mongolian word for badger rhymes with mafioso. If I was mafia, I would never refer to Wisconsin, as it is an obvious giveaway to the Mongolian speakers, and therefore I must be town.
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#37 Post by Hamilton Brian » Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:33 pm

I don’t have the clear headspace to go chasing snowy over this.

I did think I would enter with a new style, and that would be with a joke. But then I thought, “shit, I don’t want people thinking I am the jester and day kill me needlessly.” Maybe next game.
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#38 Post by foodcoats » Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:35 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:22 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:57 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:33 pm
Also, since snowy claims to be a VT, there is a 6/10 chance he is a VT and 4/10 he is not town.
I don’t understand this math. Can you explain it?

Also, why/how does claiming VT affect the odds of snowy’s actual role?
Assuming snowy would not fake claim VT as town, he has eliminated 2 possible roles, leaving 10 roles, 6 that are town and 4 that are not.
Interesting. I don’t think that’s necessarily correct, but it certainly could be.

Regarding your theory that darg and ghug are bussing snowy, is there anything in the way they or snowy have acted in particular that makes you think this? Or is it just a gut feeling?
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#39 Post by snowy801 » Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:35 pm

foodcoats wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:28 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:17 pm
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:06 pm


You obviously missed my post. Intentionally misconstruing isn’t necessarily town-like. I’m disappointed.
I misconstrue nothing. In general, posts like yours and foodcoats' are annoying. You assume that everything other people say is incorrect, which is a bad habit you should all grow out of.

I knew you made that post, yet my comment remains true
I didn’t assume you were incorrect. I was looking for clarification. Thank you for providing it.

Your comment remains true, but it is unclear what your position on it is, because you say that lurking is not a crime (which I take to mean not scummy) but that you will push to have HB daykilled for this.

Does that act of lurking make you scumread HB?
It would be silly to necessarily do so, when I do it all the time as town, but I certainly do it more as scum. That being said, I despise the connotations of the phrase "not alignment indicative (NAI)" because it's such a cop out phrase. All things are alignment indicative; most things are just insufficiently so to merit comment. I know that this is the idea most people are expressing when they say NAI, but often I just hear "I can't be bothered to stake a position in it" and I hate it.

And yes I see now that you were only seeking clarification, apologies.
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#40 Post by Hamilton Brian » Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:35 pm

Also, we all should know better . Sometimes a person, for instance HB, will go have a quick read and decide,”I’ve got nothing to add right now or I don’t have the energy to try to comprehend; I’ll wait until later.”
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