Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 7:26 pm
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Lol I'm not. I think you're just not used to seeing me as town.worcej wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:48 pm@Rdr - just to ask one more time, are you sure damo is town?
@ghug - this is a terrible questions and I cannot believe I am asking this... but are you intentionally being different compared to your normal style?
@damo - similar to above, why choose now to get stubborn when you've been more engaging and wishy washy? Why does JBH justify a 'I will not move' over anyone else? If you're town, you're fucking us over with this vote park.
@JBH - damo has a point that the why is missing, why rdr over any of us? 'I am not scum' is just OMGUS, what is it that rdr is doing to make him scum?
It's Rivera. This is weak.rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:05 pm@Ghug - I just don't understand why you are so sure about me. You have just seen how I play as scum and it's completely different from this game. Also, me and emc makes no sense. Do you think all scum pile on Food D1?
Also, D1 Chaqa started emc wagon with Food and Brain as the main wagons. Don't this give you some doubts about emc?
This lack of a better analysis is what makes me think you are scum.
Yeah, I don't think a bunch of scum voting together in TvT is that unlikely, Chaqa likes to bus, and I don't really see how you're playing differently from your scum game (the primary indicative thing I've identified is suddenly scumreading Chaqa for reasons that still don't make sense to me, which is something you've done to scum partners in the past. We're also at the point where, much like Chaqa yesterday, I just have better reasons to townread everyone else (emc included).rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:05 pm@Ghug - I just don't understand why you are so sure about me. You have just seen how I play as scum and it's completely different from this game. Also, me and emc makes no sense. Do you think all scum pile on Food D1?
Also, D1 Chaqa started emc wagon with Food and Brain as the main wagons. Don't this give you some doubts about emc?
This lack of a better analysis is what makes me think you are scum.
Am I being unreasonable or something? Perhaps I am not able to tell the levels of deprecation you have for others and just assume it's at the same level as me.ghug wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 7:53 pmOk, worcej, damo, I think you're my teammates. This is a little easier if emc is scum, since if he's town I have to convince three of you, so I'm gonna hope he's rd's pattern partner.
damo, I'm going to hope you're voting me for reaction, but you need to move to rd. I'll obviously move to JBH if it comes down to him and me, but I don't think he's our best shot, and I'm fairly sure we're not gonna get the votes there.
worcej, I honestly don't see myself convincing you at this point, but I have to try. Your argument seems to boil down to my being too chummy with Chaqa. Chaqa and I butt heads a lot, but I actually don't dislike him, and he expressed a desire to leave the community this game, which probably made me a little more inclined to play nice with him. If he and I were teammates, I would have bussed him harder yesterday. Look back at what I did do, and I think you'll see that a) my motives were a towny desire to be sure and keep generating info and b) I wouldn't defend a teammate whose death was certain like that after last game. I don't know what else I can do here.
1. A Chaqa, rdr, emc team might be the most bus-happy team ever.
This looks scummy to me.Johnny Big Horse wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:10 pmIt's Rivera. This is weak.rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:05 pm@Ghug - I just don't understand why you are so sure about me. You have just seen how I play as scum and it's completely different from this game. Also, me and emc makes no sense. Do you think all scum pile on Food D1?
Also, D1 Chaqa started emc wagon with Food and Brain as the main wagons. Don't this give you some doubts about emc?
This lack of a better analysis is what makes me think you are scum.
Look, I never really expected Chaqa to not die yesterday. I wasn't convinced, and I wanted to explore other possibilities and make sure we were making the most of the day. I don't see how either of those things is scummy.worcej wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:11 pmAm I being unreasonable or something? Perhaps I am not able to tell the levels of deprecation you have for others and just assume it's at the same level as me.ghug wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 7:53 pmOk, worcej, damo, I think you're my teammates. This is a little easier if emc is scum, since if he's town I have to convince three of you, so I'm gonna hope he's rd's pattern partner.
damo, I'm going to hope you're voting me for reaction, but you need to move to rd. I'll obviously move to JBH if it comes down to him and me, but I don't think he's our best shot, and I'm fairly sure we're not gonna get the votes there.
worcej, I honestly don't see myself convincing you at this point, but I have to try. Your argument seems to boil down to my being too chummy with Chaqa. Chaqa and I butt heads a lot, but I actually don't dislike him, and he expressed a desire to leave the community this game, which probably made me a little more inclined to play nice with him. If he and I were teammates, I would have bussed him harder yesterday. Look back at what I did do, and I think you'll see that a) my motives were a towny desire to be sure and keep generating info and b) I wouldn't defend a teammate whose death was certain like that after last game. I don't know what else I can do here.
Anyways... why would you have bused him harder last phase? My vibe from you was you kinda scumread Chaqa but didn't like our reasoning for him. It feels, now with his flip in hindsight, you were promoting doubt in order to try to get us to switch off to rdr, who you had been voting all phase until the last minute. Now, once again, you are asking us to do the same again.
So, in regards to a), I see actually some more scum motivation than town. And b) wasn't a such a certainty until ~2 hours left in the phase. What sealed it more was Chaqa's disengagement and his openly stupid claim about the gun that drew attention to him during later phases of the game.