M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

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#1681 Post by e.m.c^42 » Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:39 pm

Oh never mind, snowy read it correct, just tinfoil brain lmao

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#1682 Post by damo666 » Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:44 pm

Consider the scum pregame chat.

They have to assume there will be at least 1 town maverick who will take a gun.

Therefore assuming they all took guns why would you confine all 3 to nights 2 and 3.

Surely you'd take at least 1 n1.

This makes me highly suspicious of Chaqa.

The counter to the argument is I guess that is quite likely a lot of town will choose N1 for their rose.

If Chaqa is town then it wouldn't surprise me if scum took 3 n2.

Could be 4 deaths tonight! Even more if bb or ghug or surprise hold a town N2 gun.

Tonight could be very bloody indeed.
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#1683 Post by brainbomb » Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:57 pm

why are people giving +1 to posts they fundamentally dont agree with
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#1684 Post by e.m.c^42 » Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:05 pm

Properly caught up with everything, hurrah.
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#1685 Post by ghug » Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:09 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:57 pm
why are people giving +1 to posts they fundamentally dont agree with
Have you met emc?
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#1686 Post by Johnny Big Horse » Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:13 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:16 pm
President Eden wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:10 pm
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:07 pm
I need to know mechanically, without a shadow of a doubt, that the guns going off 100% clear snowy, chaqa, and jamie. Because I am not 100% certain. I think that there's a world where scum will gamble around with claims. The rational part of me says that doesn't happen until later just to get deep threats going. The other side says to do it now (D1/N1) since we're relying on innuendo and little information.
They don’t 100% clear anybody. They very likely make snowy and Jamie town. They don’t really mean anything for Chaqa.

• N1 rose is a town play generally bc mafia wants to take as many guns as possible
• No one claimed snowy’s shot -> factional kill
• Chaqa easily could have been mafia trying to shoot a townie with town’s blessing
Thank you for being able to articulate what I've been thinking. I feel like a lot of leveraging is happening off of these "clears" and it can dull our thinking and lull us to sleep to so automatically accept it.
For what it is worth, I think also the original thinking that Jamie, Chaqa and Snowy were town because the night 1 shootings is wrong.

I would like to think Jamie mafia, but I don't anymore.

That leaves Chaqa for me as well, and Rivera for denying the story so strongly. My memory can be wrong, but it seems the only time Rivera said anything with passion was his denial of this story, when BB was talking about it.

So for me, Chaqa and Rivera are both my highest suspects. Statistics be damned.
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#1687 Post by brainbomb » Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:16 pm

ghug wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:09 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:57 pm
why are people giving +1 to posts they fundamentally dont agree with
Have you met emc?
snowy repeatedly gave +1s to posts he would quote as being wrong or stupid
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#1688 Post by ghug » Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:24 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:16 pm
ghug wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:09 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:57 pm
why are people giving +1 to posts they fundamentally dont agree with
Have you met emc?
snowy repeatedly gave +1s to posts he would quote as being wrong or stupid
Yeah, I'm still a little confused about his +1 methodology.
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#1689 Post by President Eden » Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:27 pm

damo666 wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:44 pm
Consider the scum pregame chat.

They have to assume there will be at least 1 town maverick who will take a gun.

Therefore assuming they all took guns why would you confine all 3 to nights 2 and 3.

Surely you'd take at least 1 n1.

This makes me highly suspicious of Chaqa.

The counter to the argument is I guess that is quite likely a lot of town will choose N1 for their rose.

If Chaqa is town then it wouldn't surprise me if scum took 3 n2.

Could be 4 deaths tonight! Even more if bb or ghug or surprise hold a town N2 gun.

Tonight could be very bloody indeed.
I think mafia would generally stash guns to delay the reveal of kill info, but would obviously prioritize getting a shot off over that if it looked like someone were at risk of going down. So I’d expect players like Chaqa who get yeeted a lot early to take n1 gun as mafia, whereas players who live longer would want to hold it. (Note that this doesn’t make Chaqa mafia since he would take his item n1 regardless.)
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#1690 Post by snowy801 » Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:27 pm

You'll just have to keep guessing.
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#1691 Post by rdrivera2005 » Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:37 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 4:50 pm
ghug wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 4:44 pm
Does Brian feel like he's intentionally trying to fly under the radar to anyone else?

He's gotten very good at displaying his thought processes in the past few games, and this time around I just can't remember anything of note from him.
mostly agree hb is a very random player who is even more random here
I agree, but I had the same feeling about Macca and they flipped town, so maybe it's just this game. His vote on me is bizarre as he also voted Food.
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#1692 Post by brainbomb » Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:37 pm

yea hes just scum trolling our collective idiocy
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#1693 Post by brainbomb » Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:38 pm

+1s galore for brain who keeps naming the entire scumteam repeatedly and snowy finds it hilarious how no one listens
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#1694 Post by rdrivera2005 » Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:39 pm

damo666 wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 4:40 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 4:36 pm
id probably be willing to kill off someone other than damo if anyone can convince me in five words or less
Rdr is probably scum.
You were scum with me last game and you saw how I play as scum. Point where I am playing as scum here? You are just full of shit and scum.
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#1695 Post by rdrivera2005 » Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:45 pm

damo666 wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:22 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:15 pm
I will probably be killed tonight, or Snowy I guess.

Does anyone have any questions for me, bearing in mind I may not be able to answer them after this phase has ended?
Agreed. I'd scum went 123.

Possibly both of you if 122.

Or neither if 133
This is an interesting post. You are assuming scum take one N1 gun in all possibilities. Are you scum with Chaqa?
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#1696 Post by rdrivera2005 » Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:46 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:25 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:22 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:15 pm
I will probably be killed tonight, or Snowy I guess.

Does anyone have any questions for me, bearing in mind I may not be able to answer them after this phase has ended?
Agreed. I'd scum went 123.

Possibly both of you if 122.

Or neither if 133
Why are you assuming scum took a gun n1? We've seen no evidence of that, unless you likewise claim chaqa is scum
Exactly what I thought.
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#1697 Post by brainbomb » Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:14 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:45 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:22 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:15 pm
I will probably be killed tonight, or Snowy I guess.

Does anyone have any questions for me, bearing in mind I may not be able to answer them after this phase has ended?
Agreed. I'd scum went 123.

Possibly both of you if 122.

Or neither if 133
This is an interesting post. You are assuming scum take one N1 gun in all possibilities. Are you scum with Chaqa?
again I ask

why
cant
he
be
scum
with snowy
and emc
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#1698 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:17 pm

Damo can be scum in several scenarios, Brainbomb.
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#1699 Post by rdrivera2005 » Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:49 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:14 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:45 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:22 pm


Agreed. I'd scum went 123.

Possibly both of you if 122.

Or neither if 133
This is an interesting post. You are assuming scum take one N1 gun in all possibilities. Are you scum with Chaqa?
again I ask

why
cant
he
be
scum
with snowy
and emc
He can. I was asking because he assumed scum used a gun N1. Only gun was Chaqa's as far as we know.
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#1700 Post by e.m.c^42 » Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:51 pm

Lol I'm failing to understand what's happening with snowy, is this a bait 'n switch or actual scumread?

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