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Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

#1561 Post by e.m.c^42 » Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:39 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:25 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:22 pm
Huh. Where did everyone go?
Emc, you understand this play style is harming town if you are town? If you are scum well done.
Don't really think it's any particularly worse than spreading my reads out though. Instead of dropping reads one by one in day it's just all at one point near EOD, since no-one really reads 'em anyway.

But yeah, I'll try to maintain more of live presence, just been offline more than usual which hasn't helped. Forum +1's have dropped as whole lol

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#1562 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:40 pm

Should have daykilled EMC.
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#1563 Post by e.m.c^42 » Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:45 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:40 pm
Should have daykilled EMC.
Not gonna lie, really unsure of what exactly causes this consistent belief. It would almost be odd if it wasn't so genuine.

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#1564 Post by e.m.c^42 » Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:48 pm

But! Jamie, since you are here, let me pull a bozo regardless and show you these trends :D

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Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

#1565 Post by President Eden » Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:48 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:30 pm
President Eden wrote:
Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:23 pm
Frustrating. Sorry Macca, it must have been even more frustrating to be on the receiving end.

Chaqa is probably mafia. I don't know what that means for Jamie. But the ineffectual sideline action from him is too much. Since Jamie wasn't actually claiming n1 rose, Chaqa could easily have taken that shot as mafia and been upfront about what he was doing - finding a townie that people were okay with flipping and taking a shot.

I don't think any of damo, snowy, brainbomb, Johnny, or Hamilton are mafia. I stand by my belief that emc isn't doing anything out of his usual town range, but I am kinda getting sick of his alignment suddenly becoming the most important thing in the world at every EOD. If emc and damo both think Jamie is town then they're probably right.

Seems like ghug disappeared as soon as I quit suspecting him. Maybe I let him off too easy for pushing back on me. He's not really playing outside his typical mafia range, taking the whole of his play.

And I'm still not sure what to make of rivera and worcej.
What you seems to ignore not sure exactly why is that emc behavior isn't out of his town behavior but it's also not out of his scum behavior, he had done it before as both alignments, so townreading him because of it is a mistake.

Also, why scum Chaqa would come back at EOD and try to stir the pot with two towns on the block (from your POV, emc is town)?

What I think now? That you are either playing your worst game as town or you are scum.
I’m not ignoring it. I think he would rightly be considered null. So I don’t get why he is suddenly our best lead. How do we have nothing better than policy voting a null player? Why do people so passionately want to get rid of this one null player amidst a sea of other reasonable votes? It doesn’t make sense to me.

Chaqa would come back and stir the pot in this situation as mafia for sure. If he knows both would flip town then looking like he’s wanting to flashwagon someone else is good. He wasn’t actually invested in it, since he came back way too late to do it. And he knew we would be suspicious if he dipped altogether.
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#1566 Post by e.m.c^42 » Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:51 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:48 pm
But! Jamie, since you are here, let me pull a bozo regardless and show you these trends :D
Can't believe I actually did this, but voilà! Jamie, you really drive me to new heights, like that time I re-wrote my entire D1 posts for you in god thread. Got lazy and didn't go too far back but point should be there, ish.

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#1567 Post by e.m.c^42 » Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:52 pm

The Grand Tale of Jamie, Who Has Lovely Trope (as one can make reads off of him) of Scumreading EMC as Town
By EMC himself, who blushes furiously at Jamie's insistent attention

Granted I've not played much in recent few games, so this is going back a little, but in future games I'll just quote back here so it's worth bit of effort now.

=====

town!Jamie will:
  • Policy vote EMC D1
  • Passionately scumread EMC
  • Insults EMC in sexy degrading way
  • If I happen to not vote early, something about that
=====

Examples:

M57:
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:27 am
##VOTE EMC because I don't even know why he was allowed to sign up.
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:40 am
This person has a webDip Mafia reliability rating of 13%:

- EMC

I would like to see all of the above actually show up and participate, please?
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:48 am
@EMC: I will remove my vote from you, if you +1 this post.
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:11 pm
Wait that lets ##VOTE EMC off the hook and we can't have that.

M1013|M1012 Redux: (lmao I love this one)
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 10:21 pm
Is EMC ill, is EMC ill, is EMC ill?
Is EMC ill today?
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 10:37 pm
Where is everybody?
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 10:58 pm
Mr Kirk, EMC's in school!
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:01 pm
I'm afraid he's not, Miss Fishborne!
EMC's truancy problem is way out of hand.
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:10 pm
The Silesia County school board have decided to expel
EMC from the entire public school system.
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:11 pm
Oh Mr Kirk, I'm as upset as you to learn of EMC's truancy
But surely, expulsion is not the answer!

##VOTE EMC

I'm afraid expulsion is the only answer!
It's the opinion of the entire staff that EMC is criminally insane.
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:57 am
Calm down, EMC.

You are trash as all alignments.

M55: (this one is special, I actually talked a lot!)
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:38 am
e.m.c^42 wrote:
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Alas! Freedoms are lost, but what truly pains more is the loss of love. Even in solitude, if one has the warmth of Chipotlove the shackles of the world melt away like a block of cheese in the ass of a corpse.
You're disgusting.
You disgust me.
And, I'm disgusted by you.
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 1:50 pm
The case is clear anyway. EMC is lying and is not town and we should lynch him.
There's a lot more but this game was very chatty, so not gonna quote anymore, also I'm getting lazy. If you go even earlier in games it gets spicier lmao

=====

scum!Jamie will:
  • Be calm about EMC's aggro-alluring presence
  • Scumread EMC but in a subdued way
  • No sexy degradation :'(
=====

Examples:

M63:
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:33 pm
I notice that EMC appears to be absent.
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:20 pm
EMC you are posting a lot. Have you thought about who to vote for?
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:47 pm
ghug wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:40 pm
Kinky
You've got EMC calling you "Daddy", and you're worried about my kinky behaviour?

M62:
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:18 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:12 pm
As someone who is always full of thoughts about emc, what do you think about him this game, Jamie?
5.

The first thing I noticed was that he has learned to use his vote earlier than the last 30 seconds of the day. I would like to think I helped drum this into him by constantly policy voting him for not voting, and by modkilling him for it when I was a GM.

Now looking again in response to your query, the second thing I notice is that he is voting Ghug. He made this vote on the basis that four pages earlier (p.2) he had spouted some mumbo about Ghug "being on the burning pile". Frankly a lot of EMC's posts in this phase have been faintly poetic gibberish. I don't know why he is actually voting for Ghug.

@EMC could you explain your vote?
@HR since you asked me, what is the basis of your scumread on EMC?
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:23 pm
HR was utilising a concept known as "sarcasm", EMC. It's not something many Americans find easy to grasp. It is taught in nursery schools in the United Kingdom.

M56: (God, he's so polite here it's creepy)
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:46 pm
worcej wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:30 pm
Again - EMC is my buddy. I believe he is scum. The best way to test this, without being able to convince people with my words (because no one listens normally and the mass claim proved this once again) is to force the issue with mEcHaNiKz!
If EMC and myself do not die together tonight - he is scum.
What do you want us to conclude if one of you dies, but not the other?

What if you and EMC are both town, and the scum decide to avoid killing either of you, specifically because this will apparently lead you to conclude that EMC must be scum and thus you will push his mislynch for them? It is N1 and the scum have many potential targets. Whether they do or do not choose to target EMC does not "mechanically" prove anything about his alignment, actually, does it?

I'm sorry Worcej, in this community I consider you a friend, but your theory that EMC is confirmed scum if you don't both die tonight is a lot of rubbish.
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:28 pm
Yes but on this occasion Damo is right, Worcej.

Your theory regarding EMC falls down because if EMC is town, then you've actually given scum an incentive not to kill either of you, in the hope that you push his mislynch. Thus your assertion that "if EMC does not die, he is scum" is rubbish.
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 1:06 pm
@Flash
@EMC
@Durga
@Damo
@Worcej

Would you like to participate today?

Thanks!
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:44 pm
@Emc: Your D1 voting history looks very suspect and I would like you to explain some things, please:
[snip]
I look forward to EMC's responses to these questions.

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#1568 Post by e.m.c^42 » Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:54 pm

But anyway, main point is, whatever Jamie-is-scum-with-vest conspiracy is more tinfoil than usual.

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#1569 Post by e.m.c^42 » Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:55 pm

Still not shaking gut scumread of ghug, but really ain't got much other than what was already said.

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#1570 Post by e.m.c^42 » Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:58 pm

In meantime, feel free to follow +1 updates as one plods through missing parts.
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#1571 Post by ghug » Sun Jun 20, 2021 12:17 am

Well Macca deserved it and was gonna have to flip at some point anyway, and I think emc has made himself look pretty towny, so that's something.

My girlfriend is back now so I missed EoD. I knew I would in advance but didn't tell anyone because that's scummy.

I'm liking Eden a little more, he can probably have another day. I think I want to kill Brian next.
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#1572 Post by President Eden » Sun Jun 20, 2021 1:15 am

emc convinced me on Jamie and himself. Unless someone wants to point out a time where emc went to that kind of effort as mafia. That is uncharacteristic of him in all cases, but is much more likely to come from a townie deciding to put some real time and effort into something he authentically believes in and would be useful here, vs a lie he's trying to cover as mafia.
Kinda feel like damo is town here too if both of them are. He doesn't have to be, it just seems right.

I don't think Jamie being town makes Chaqa town though. I know I've gone back and forth on this a lot, but a lot of my understanding hinged on the mistaken premise that Jamie claimed n1 rose, which I realize is incorrect. He definitely hinted at it by saying that shooting him n1 was a bad idea, but that's easily read as someone who's about to get shot begging not to be. He specifically said he didn't have an n1 rose. If Chaqa took that at face value, then he could easily be mafia there finding an excuse to shoot a townie. And if you think that's too bold for him, or that the correct mafia play is to shut up about whether you have a gun, go back to the most recent game he won as mafia with kgray and look for the part where he literally told y'all in the thread that he and kgray were engaging in scum theater. He loves pulling that cheeky audacious shit. Put nothing by him.
I still hate how he sat on the sidelines at EOD2 there and I think that's exactly what a mafia would do in that situation.
ghug wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 12:17 am
Well Macca deserved it and was gonna have to flip at some point anyway, and I think emc has made himself look pretty towny, so that's something.

My girlfriend is back now so I missed EoD. I knew I would in advance but didn't tell anyone because that's scummy.

I'm liking Eden a little more, he can probably have another day. I think I want to kill Brian next.
Subtle I-have-a-girlfriend flex

Why Brian? I think I want to see Chaqa, worcej, and rivera resolved.


- Most Town -
Eden
snowy
Jamie
brainbomb
emc
damo
Johnny
Brian
ghug
= Town/Mafia Border =
rivera
worcej
Chaqa
- Most Mafia -
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#1573 Post by Chaqa » Sun Jun 20, 2021 1:36 am

ghug wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 12:17 am
Well Macca deserved it and was gonna have to flip at some point anyway, and I think emc has made himself look pretty towny, so that's something.

My girlfriend is back now so I missed EoD. I knew I would in advance but didn't tell anyone because that's scummy.

I'm liking Eden a little more, he can probably have another day. I think I want to kill Brian next.
Ghug having a girlfriend? Scum
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#1574 Post by ghug » Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:35 am

Chaqa wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 1:36 am
ghug wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 12:17 am
Well Macca deserved it and was gonna have to flip at some point anyway, and I think emc has made himself look pretty towny, so that's something.

My girlfriend is back now so I missed EoD. I knew I would in advance but didn't tell anyone because that's scummy.

I'm liking Eden a little more, he can probably have another day. I think I want to kill Brian next.
Ghug having a girlfriend? Scum
Jeez I'm not you
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#1575 Post by Chaqa » Sun Jun 20, 2021 4:03 am

ghug wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:35 am
Chaqa wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 1:36 am
ghug wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 12:17 am
Well Macca deserved it and was gonna have to flip at some point anyway, and I think emc has made himself look pretty towny, so that's something.

My girlfriend is back now so I missed EoD. I knew I would in advance but didn't tell anyone because that's scummy.

I'm liking Eden a little more, he can probably have another day. I think I want to kill Brian next.
Ghug having a girlfriend? Scum
Jeez I'm not you
No, but Eden is.
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#1576 Post by snowy801 » Sun Jun 20, 2021 5:55 am

Idk I think it's Eden /emc / rdrivera

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#1577 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:23 am

I see that EMC has, at last, made some effort.

It's kind of a shame that he's put most of that effort into explaining a townread on me, when nearly everyone else was townreading me already.

But, points for doing something, at least.

I see that EMC's top scumread appears to be Ghug. I would like to hear more from EMC about why that is the case, and who else he thinks is on Ghug's team.
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#1578 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:24 am

##Vote Johnny Big Horse
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#1579 Post by damo666 » Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:38 am

@Jamie why are you voting at night. And why a towns man?
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#1580 Post by damo666 » Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:40 am

So EMC is locktwning Jamie and me. That's fine and probably indicates he is town himself.
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