M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

[e.m.c^42]

Not quite understanding what you mean by "volunteer to perform it every time as town", sorry haha

but tl;dr, you're not voting me because you scumread me, but because you just don't think you can read me?

IDK but that seems some awful reasoning, even from my standards of gut meta reads as king? Someone not me comment lol, am too biased in own favour.

[rdrivera2005]

I mean honestly, were I not voting for you I'd probably flip to rdrivera or support the notion of a flash vote today. I am very saddened that you deprive me of this opportunity.

A flash wagon on me is probably the worst thing you can do. Look at who is voting me, so you really think they have a remote idea about how to play?

If it's not emc, I would push a Macca wagon or even HB, they are just a waste of space now.

[President Eden]

Honestly I want to vote out Jamie because it strains credulity to think he is actually angry at emc for being inactive. Everything about his yelling at emc felt fake as fuck to me. But I don't know if I'm actually confident he's mafia or just annoyed.

[snowy801]

I mean honestly, were I not voting for you I'd probably flip to rdrivera or support the notion of a flash vote today. I am very saddened that you deprive me of this opportunity.

Flash on who? 27 mins left....

A flash vote is at odds with my last post but I'm willing to listen.

My own suggestion might be worcej, but I'm not wholly sold on that. I think I'd sooner support someone else's effort because the value of a flash is to see how it played out with the retrospect of knowing how those wagons were.

[e.m.c^42]

Chaqa quit camping on me and put your vote on emc or Macca.

Johnny, Brian, emc, brain if you're here - y'all should vote either emc or Macca.

Will go ISO Macca then, summarise case on them?

[damo666]

Johnny you may not be aware but sticking on a wagon that is looking unlikely to gain enough traction to challenge for the lead is generally viewed as scummy.

[President Eden]

Chaqa quit camping on me and put your vote on emc or Macca.

Johnny, Brian, emc, brain if you're here - y'all should vote either emc or Macca.

Will go ISO Macca then, summarise case on them?

Just read ISO and compare to last game lol. Total lack of investment by comparison. It's striking. Literally just a five-minute skim of M68 ISO vs M67 ISO will tell you what you need to know.

I'm not super confident in it, but I'm not super confident in a lot of my reads right now.

[e.m.c^42]

Honestly I want to vote out Jamie because it strains credulity to think he is actually angry at emc for being inactive. Everything about his yelling at emc felt fake as fuck to me. But I don't know if I'm actually confident he's mafia or just annoyed.

I think he's prolly town :P

[damo666]

FWIW I think Macca is more likely to be scum than emc. Emc seems too relaxed to be scum.

[damo666]

Honestly I want to vote out Jamie because it strains credulity to think he is actually angry at emc for being inactive. Everything about his yelling at emc felt fake as fuck to me. But I don't know if I'm actually confident he's mafia or just annoyed.

I think he's prolly town

I'd be surprised if Jamie is scum.

[Hamilton Brian]

Let’s go with ##Vote Macca

Don’t like it.

Think EMC is getting set up largely due to their own making.

[damo666]

I mean honestly, were I not voting for you I'd probably flip to rdrivera or support the notion of a flash vote today. I am very saddened that you deprive me of this opportunity.

Flash on who? 27 mins left....

A flash vote is at odds with my last post but I'm willing to listen.

My own suggestion might be worcej, but I'm not wholly sold on that. I think I'd sooner support someone else's effort because the value of a flash is to see how it played out with the retrospect of knowing how those wagons were.

I wouldn't support a worcej flashwagon and i'm not confident enough to start any other one. I'm happy sticking with Macca.

[Johnny Big Horse]

I am throwing out my entire decision making system.

##VOTE Macca

Why? I reread all of his posts, and she hasn't contributed anything to the problem solving, nothing. She has been kindly to me, thank you for that. Nothing personal. I prefer your communication style, but I think you are mafia.

[damo666]

4-4

We need more movement.

[President Eden]

Lmao I'm little snarky about Jamie here because literally every single town game of his, he comes in and scumreads me with exact same lines, then celebrates the one time his read was correct by chance.

"EMC is useless!"
"EMC doesn't vote early enough!"
"EMC can eat cock, the fucker"

Which is all true, to be fair, but I usually don't pay too much mind since he ignores my reads anyway, imo likely due to communication mismatch.

Have you ever considered that these are all very valid reasons to scum read you every single game, and that the only thing strange in this interaction is that you volunteer to perform it every time as town?

I repeat myself - I do not vote you because I am confident you are scum over certain alternate candidates. I do it because I believe your survival as a town player to be worse weighed against the probability that we actually get scum today.

Thank you for wasting the day.

How many times does Jamie need to play with emc and see emc do those things as town before he realizes emc does those things as town? I understand your suspicions, but I don't understand Jamie's at all.

And how did emc waste the day? We had 48 hours. Only in the last hour did he come up... again...
Personally, I felt like I learned a lot today. Do you not?

[damo666]

I am throwing out my entire decision making system.

##VOTE Macca

Why? I reread all of his posts, and she hasn't contributed anything to the problem solving, nothing. She has been kindly to me, thank you for that. Nothing personal. I prefer your communication style, but I think you are mafia.

Excellent

[snowy801]

Where did Chaqa go?

[damo666]

Where did Chaqa go?

Good question.

[snowy801]

How many times does Jamie need to play with emc and see emc do those things as town before he realizes emc does those things as town? I understand your suspicions, but I don't understand Jamie's at all.

And how did emc waste the day? We had 48 hours. Only in the last hour did he come up... again...
Personally, I felt like I learned a lot today. Do you not?

I was basing my comment on the premise that we do end up flipping emc and his turning out to be town. Which is looking to be less likely than it was when I made the comment.

But as a whole? No, I don't think my understanding of the game evolved overmuch from the influx learned from the EoN and claims.

[President Eden]

He's 100% lurking and letting this play out. Decent chance he is mafia and this is TvT. He knows this is entirely within emc's range and is content to let the dumpster fire burn.