MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

[Hamilton Brian]

Devolving into "feels like scum!someone," keeps us off the investigating.

Focusing on it derails town.

Scum would also avoid making me a wagon. I think i have history on my side there. Kind of clears Yav. Ghug I expect better from.

You can't dismiss yavu by saying that what he's doing isn't investigating.

This hasn't even been a page. Some derailing.

not clear, makes more towny.

I think I need some more complete sentences.

[Hamilton Brian]

Brain, you’re not the werewolf, but if you were, you could guess ghug godfather. Either you chomp him or you confirm hes town

I'm offended that multiple people have suggested this. A townclear on day 3 is not useful. If I am the godfather, it's gonna be pretty damn obvious when I'm alive in a few days.

I must have missed. Did ghug give a positive scan? I remember Dargo recieving a positive scan but I didn't see a message where he said it was ghug. Sorry if I missed, can you confirm?

Scanned as town. Godfather and wolf remain possibilities.

[Hamilton Brian]

This feels like scumBrian.

Seriously? Christ! There are 4 players in here that can vouch that I am not. What was scummy about it?

Which 4? and how can they definitively vouch?

Whoever the remaining 4 mafia are. You know who your other three teammates are. Don’t choose now to be coy.

[Bonatogether]

Seriously? Christ! There are 4 players in here that can vouch that I am not. What was scummy about it?

Which 4? and how can they definitively vouch?

Whoever the remaining 4 mafia are. You know who your other three teammates are. Don’t choose now to be coy.

Since when do you scumread me? This reeks.

[celaph]

Disclaimer: my reads probably s@/# - use them at own discretion
(it's from best to worst, no Enter means close, one Enter (or two) means not so close together)

Town
Dargorygel - top town. If he is alive D5, he's not cop.
brainbomb - I don't agree with all he does, but that doesn't look mafbrain to me. townymctownface with pitchfork and torch.

kgray - Even with all my joking about pocketing, she is town. Maybe not sheep her until later, but listen to her and consider.

foodcoats - I'm pretty convinced he is town. There are some small doubts but he looks solid.
Chaqa - D1 I had him a bit higher, maybe that's just because it looked like he did less to me. (Not saying he did, that's was I felt an can remember)

ghug - has a 2 in 20 chance of being 'not town'. His play is quite towny, I don't like some action from him though. Maybe he is really the ghugfather.
Townish
worcej - rip him, I've seen him about here (if someone wanted to know a reference)

rdrivera2005 - I don't read him easily town as last game, he doesn't feel bad though. Kinda suspicious of one, two instances.
Fluminator - looked fine, but I'm really interested what he meant, what he saw in maniac that he planned to say on D3.
damo666 - active but not especially noticable, I don't really think he is mafia. If there were two RB's, I wouldn't know who did it.
Null
Hamilton Brian - null, but not because of no data, he equally ticks town and mafia counts with his actions and I can't see behind him. Could that mean he's werewolf? Could that mean my reading ability is bad? I'm very interested to hear what he has to say right after EoD.
Jamiet99uk - somme looks good, some looks bad, if there was only one RB, then I believe it wasn't jamiet.
Celaph - he looked bad to me before, gained a bit. I liked his answers, but I could also see him as mafia.


bonatogether - I'm not sure with him, it looks like he is involved, but I can't put a finger on a good post of him (except the last one before EoD, I guess). I sheeped kgray on him, didn't leave for worcej and didn't find any real better vote. Maybe I'm bad.
yavuzovic - claimed sick, don't know if he is better again but posted afterward a little. I hope is gets well soon. Haven't focused him, didn't get a read from what I saw, should really reread him again.
macca573 - claimed absence. reading 1 page in 5 minutes. Before absence I felt a goodish vibe, however small. That poofed 2 cycles ago.

Maniac - some posts of him are meh, others are thought provoking, it looks like he isn't here often, though pops in a bit now. I'm not hugely a fan, some things tend to lean like he isn't mafia but nothing strikes me as special. Maybe he is just bored.
Null-ish

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Mafia

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If I get nk'ed tonight, it's because:

others think I'm town > maf knows I'm town(or werewolf harr harr) > maf thinks I'm PR > I'm Austrian > my reads

I'm assuming you're down talking your reads because you don't read anyone as scum or even null-ish. Assuming the whole scum team isn't in your null reads, do you have a sense of why scum seem to have acquired town credit in your reads? Does that make you more suspicious of the demon voters or those that Demon voted for?

[Hamilton Brian]

Speaking of Abbott and Costello, meet Frankenstein was a favourite movie of mine. Had the 3 major Universal monsters. I cut my teeth on them. Here’s Lon Chaney Jr in his glory: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=49DRKCHUAXk

[Hamilton Brian]

Which 4? and how can they definitively vouch?

Whoever the remaining 4 mafia are. You know who your other three teammates are. Don’t choose now to be coy.

Since when do you scumread me? This reeks.

I forgot to include the tongue in cheek emoji. I don’t scumread you.

[Hamilton Brian]

I think it’s a full moon tonight so, taking you back to my early teen years when metal was still a bit of a countercultural phenomenon, here’s Ozzy from 1983: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZncJyec4i4s

[Bonatogether]

Whoever the remaining 4 mafia are. You know who your other three teammates are. Don’t choose now to be coy.

Since when do you scumread me? This reeks.

I forgot to include the tongue in cheek emoji. I don’t scumread you.

[ghug]

Celaph is asking more questions and drawing fewer conclusions.

[celaph]

Quite amusing we have a 5 strong worcej wagon with none of rdr celaph or myself on it.

What do you make of this fact and why did you choose to name these 3 people? Bona had the same number of votes as you while Maniac had just been the leading wagon and was voting worcej?

[kgray]

@Rivera why didn't you vote Bona over worcej when it was tied with 2 minutes left at EOD?

why are you so unhappy I didn't get dked?

I'm not, but you seemed really sketchy to me at EOD and Rivera had previously scumread you while townreading worcej. He also shaded me for joining worcej's wagon instead of saving him, but then he did nothing to either save himself or make a decision to keep worcej over you.

Why are you so unhappy with me questioning Rivera?

[celaph]

<all my 'sharp' quotes>

What is the point of this?

Read the first one. It was a response to brain asking for good questions you've asked.

[kgray]

But why wouldn't the ww take a shot at Maniac?

who said he didn't? maybe he was saved. Maybe he wasn't town but is mafia. Maybe he is werewolf.

I think the ww did take a shot at Maniac, so either:
a) he got doc saved
b) he's not VT who's really eager to make everyone think he is

Why are you so confident werewolf would try for Maniac?

[kgray]

Maybe he saw celaph visit someone? Maybe he tried to visit celaph and got driven to someone townie?

DUDE are you dense

No, you are. He could have watched someone else and seen celaph.

Flum's argument was specifically based on brain claiming he visited celaph, though. He quoted where he thought brain was claiming that.

[kgray]

##vote Celaph

I think the only way that Brainbomb can be confident that Celaph is scum is if BB watched Vecna and Celaph did the killing.

If BB watched anyone else and received a report that Celaph visited, he couldn't possibly know that celaph wasn't a PR.

You think brain could have seen celaph visiting Vecna the night he died and not said so?

[celaph]

@Maniac what are you talking about?

If he watched himself and got a report that celaph had visited he couldn't tell if celaph was driver or doc.

Yes he could. HR has just confirmed that if BB watched himself is he told "BB visited BB"

But if Driver visits, he is told "BB visited Player C (the other person Driver visited) AND Celaph visited Player C.

Why are you restricting yourself to mechanical arguments? While I agree that I think this one actually works, brain's scumread was just a read, an incorrect one. Do you have comments on any of his (or other's) arguments against me? Because the way you're trying to justify your vote makes me feel like I'm being shoehorned into your vote.

[kgray]

Given Janitor in play I think either Jamie or rdr must be Janitor. We don't have to vote for either though, werewolf can consume.

I don't think we should count on the werewolf to help us, but I also think it's possible the Janitor is just someone very well-hidden and they're saving it. Particularly since brain's soft was pretty noticeable, and anyone claiming watcher later after he was Janitor'd would be sus.

[Bonatogether]

@Rivera why didn't you vote Bona over worcej when it was tied with 2 minutes left at EOD?

why are you so unhappy I didn't get dked?

I'm not, but you seemed really sketchy to me at EOD and Rivera had previously scumread you while townreading worcej. He also shaded me for joining worcej's wagon instead of saving him, but then he did nothing to either save himself or make a decision to keep worcej over you.

Why are you so unhappy with me questioning Rivera?

I have made no comment about you question rdr, but you asked several questions (iirc) in this vein.

[Bonatogether]

<all my 'sharp' quotes>

What is the point of this?

Read the first one. It was a response to brain asking for good questions you've asked.

Ah. I see. Thanks.