MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm fairly convinced it's Macca Yav Bona and Chaqa/Jamie.

Can we not just kill Macca get a NK and proceed?

If Macca is town I don't care if we lose anyway. Won't be my fault.

Explain how I am scum.

I dare you.

Go on.

[damo666]

I know there's a day to go but surely you can see the danger of the situation.

Town should could consolidate. Scum will have to bus.

Macca is today's vote. Last one on is scum.

[Jamiet99uk]

> Getting the numbers wrong becuase he is not paying attention
> End voting without due cause
> Having suddenly unlikely "scumreads"

Are these the mating cries of the Scumdamo?

[Chaqa]

Jamie is town based on basic logic.

If Jamie were scum, when he outed the WW, the Wolf would have told us he guessed VT on Jamie and was wrong. The WW knows both he and the town need to remove scum to win, so there would be no reason to lie. So when Jamie outs Hamilton and HB confirms he guessed Janitor on Jamie, this implicitly means Jamie is town because scum!Jamie would never out the Werewolf there.

TLDR:
- WW would have outed scumJamie in the hopes of potentially winning down the line, and has no reason to lie to cover for scumJamie

[Chaqa]

Damo, you and everyone else need to completely remove Jamie from your PoE.

It is quite literally impossible for him to be scum in any world where logic exists.

[yavuzovic]

I know there's a day to go but surely you can see the danger of the situation.

Town should could consolidate. Scum will have to bus.

Macca is today's vote. Last one on is scum.

Eh I didn't stay up for last EoN and I came back when I'm available. It's not scum indicative to miss the first hours of the day. We know you're looking for a way to push me.

[Jamiet99uk]

I know there's a day to go but surely you can see the danger of the situation.

Town should could consolidate. Scum will have to bus.

Macca is today's vote. Last one on is scum.

There's more than 24 hours left.

I'd like you to talk about your scum read on me.

[foodcoats]

I know there's a day to go but surely you can see the danger of the situation.

Town should could consolidate. Scum will have to bus.

Macca is today's vote. Last one on is scum.

Why not instead, pretend Macca is dead.

Now, vote your next highest read.

[Jamiet99uk]

Damo, you and everyone else need to completely remove Jamie from your PoE.

It is quite literally impossible for him to be scum in any world where logic exists.

Thanks Chakka, old buddy, old pal.

[damo666]

I'm fairly convinced it's Macca Yav Bona and Chaqa/Jamie.

Can we not just kill Macca get a NK and proceed?

If Macca is town I don't care if we lose anyway. Won't be my fault.

Explain how I am scum.

I dare you.

Go on.

HR gave you such a role. Easy peasy.

Your only real defence is you outed ww.

Why as non-Jan scum would you not do that gambling HB didn't guess vt. He was way more likely to guess Jan.

[foodcoats]

Jamie is town based on basic logic.

If Jamie were scum, when he outed the WW, the Wolf would have told us he guessed VT on Jamie and was wrong. The WW knows both he and the town need to remove scum to win, so there would be no reason to lie. So when Jamie outs Hamilton and HB confirms he guessed Janitor on Jamie, this implicitly means Jamie is town because scum!Jamie would never out the Werewolf there.

TLDR:
- WW would have outed scumJamie in the hopes of potentially winning down the line, and has no reason to lie to cover for scumJamie

Why can’t Jamie just be another role?

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm fairly convinced it's Macca Yav Bona and Chaqa/Jamie.

Can we not just kill Macca get a NK and proceed?

If Macca is town I don't care if we lose anyway. Won't be my fault.

Explain how I am scum.

I dare you.

Go on.

HR gave you such a role. Easy peasy.

Your only real defence is you outed ww.

Why as non-Jan scum would you not do that gambling HB didn't guess vt. He was way more likely to guess Jan.

And you think I'm bussing Bona pretty hard, and I've been giving my other scumbuddy Macca fairly consistent pressure/ abuse, and my anger towards Maniac was fake. All of this, you believe, yes?

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamie is town based on basic logic.

If Jamie were scum, when he outed the WW, the Wolf would have told us he guessed VT on Jamie and was wrong. The WW knows both he and the town need to remove scum to win, so there would be no reason to lie. So when Jamie outs Hamilton and HB confirms he guessed Janitor on Jamie, this implicitly means Jamie is town because scum!Jamie would never out the Werewolf there.

TLDR:
- WW would have outed scumJamie in the hopes of potentially winning down the line, and has no reason to lie to cover for scumJamie

Why can’t Jamie just be another role?

Because I outed him before I knew what he had guessed.

[foodcoats]

Jamie is town based on basic logic.

If Jamie were scum, when he outed the WW, the Wolf would have told us he guessed VT on Jamie and was wrong. The WW knows both he and the town need to remove scum to win, so there would be no reason to lie. So when Jamie outs Hamilton and HB confirms he guessed Janitor on Jamie, this implicitly means Jamie is town because scum!Jamie would never out the Werewolf there.

TLDR:
- WW would have outed scumJamie in the hopes of potentially winning down the line, and has no reason to lie to cover for scumJamie

Why can’t Jamie just be another role?

Actually I get it

[yavuzovic]

Jamie is town based on basic logic.

If Jamie were scum, when he outed the WW, the Wolf would have told us he guessed VT on Jamie and was wrong. The WW knows both he and the town need to remove scum to win, so there would be no reason to lie. So when Jamie outs Hamilton and HB confirms he guessed Janitor on Jamie, this implicitly means Jamie is town because scum!Jamie would never out the Werewolf there.

TLDR:
- WW would have outed scumJamie in the hopes of potentially winning down the line, and has no reason to lie to cover for scumJamie

That's not correct. Werewolf might have tried to consume a mafia member (because mafia knows each other and is a bigger danger than town). So when ww fails to guess jamie's role, jamie can still be another scum role or town, so it's almost NAI. Jamie just eliminated the possibility of being a certain scum role. It would be good if HB told us though.

[foodcoats]

I know there's a day to go but surely you can see the danger of the situation.

Town should could consolidate. Scum will have to bus.

Macca is today's vote. Last one on is scum.

Why not instead, pretend Macca is dead.

Now, vote your next highest read.

This is top strats.

If we’re going to kill Macca eventually anyway we gain nothing from killing Macca now.

Man saying kill is vulgar also.

Let’s shimmy ding dong not Macca

[foodcoats]

Anyone voting macca is sux

[Chaqa]

I know there's a day to go but surely you can see the danger of the situation.

Town should could consolidate. Scum will have to bus.

Macca is today's vote. Last one on is scum.

Why not instead, pretend Macca is dead.

Now, vote your next highest read.

This is flawed logic.

What if Macca flips Janitor? That would be a very good piece of information on people like me, Rivera, and Jamie.

[Chaqa]

I'm fairly convinced it's Macca Yav Bona and Chaqa/Jamie.

Can we not just kill Macca get a NK and proceed?

If Macca is town I don't care if we lose anyway. Won't be my fault.

Explain how I am scum.

I dare you.

Go on.

HR gave you such a role. Easy peasy.

Your only real defence is you outed ww.

Why as non-Jan scum would you not do that gambling HB didn't guess vt. He was way more likely to guess Jan.

You're in a tinfoil tunnel.

A tunfoil, f you will.

[Chaqa]

I know there's a day to go but surely you can see the danger of the situation.

Town should could consolidate. Scum will have to bus.

Macca is today's vote. Last one on is scum.

Why not instead, pretend Macca is dead.

Now, vote your next highest read.

This is top strats.

If we’re going to kill Macca eventually anyway we gain nothing from killing Macca now.

Man saying kill is vulgar also.

Let’s shimmy ding dong not Macca

This is bottom strats.

Knowing Macca's role (as I presume they are mafia) will be good information. If Macca has a valuable role, we can assume mafia have been making efforts to save them throughout the game. If macca has an invaluable role (say Driver), we can assume mafia have not been going out of their way to save them, etc.