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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf Minigame [Hidden]

#81 Post by Bonatogether » Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:00 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:42 pm
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Did you start as the Robber?

If YES, please declare now, and tell us who you targeted.

If NO, please declare "No, I didn't start as the Robber".
I did not start as the Robber

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#82 Post by teccles » Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:09 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:00 pm
teccles wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:59 am
I agree that the troublemaker targets should claim if they were werewolves. I think if they were tanners or minions they don't claim that; no reason to tell the person you swapped with to screw with the game.

I'm the doppelganger. I targeted Maniac, who I can confirm is a drunk. Swapped with the centre card. I'm not quite clear one when this action happened - I think it's probably either before or after Maniac's swap?

I think the next claim should be the robber. If anyone claims the robber but doesn't claim it soon, we should be very suspicious of them.
I don't see how this works with the role pm?
Doppelganger: You are the DOPPELGANGER. You win with the town. At night, you must look at one other player’s card without switching it. You become that role and receive the relevant ability.
This doesn't say anything about the 3 undrawn cards.
The three undrawn cards are part of the drunk's ability; and as doppelganger, I 'become that role and receive the relevant ability'. So I act like the drunk, swapping my card with an undrawn card.

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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf Minigame [Hidden]

#83 Post by Bonatogether » Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:13 pm

teccles wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:09 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:00 pm
teccles wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:59 am
I agree that the troublemaker targets should claim if they were werewolves. I think if they were tanners or minions they don't claim that; no reason to tell the person you swapped with to screw with the game.

I'm the doppelganger. I targeted Maniac, who I can confirm is a drunk. Swapped with the centre card. I'm not quite clear one when this action happened - I think it's probably either before or after Maniac's swap?

I think the next claim should be the robber. If anyone claims the robber but doesn't claim it soon, we should be very suspicious of them.
I don't see how this works with the role pm?
Doppelganger: You are the DOPPELGANGER. You win with the town. At night, you must look at one other player’s card without switching it. You become that role and receive the relevant ability.
This doesn't say anything about the 3 undrawn cards.
The three undrawn cards are part of the drunk's ability; and as doppelganger, I 'become that role and receive the relevant ability'. So I act like the drunk, swapping my card with an undrawn card.
ah. I missed that in my catchup.

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#84 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:13 pm

Updated:

1. Hamilton Brian - Not the Robber
2. Ghug - Claims TROUBLEMAKER who switched KGRAY and JAMIET
3. lfischl
4. bonatogether - Not the ROBBER
5. Maniac - Claims DRUNK who picked the middle card
6. teccles - Claims DOPPELGANGER who targeted MANIAC and confirms he was DRUNK. With DRUNK power picked the middle card.
7. kgray - Not the ROBBER
8. Rdrivera2005 - Not the ROBBER
9. Jamiet99uk - Not the ROBBER
10. Chaqa


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@Chaqa


We just need to hear from you two, please?
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#85 Post by Maniac » Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:51 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:13 pm
Updated:

1. Hamilton Brian - Not the Robber
2. Ghug - Claims TROUBLEMAKER who switched KGRAY and JAMIET
3. lfischl
4. bonatogether - Not the ROBBER
5. Maniac - Claims DRUNK who picked the middle card
6. teccles - Claims DOPPELGANGER who targeted MANIAC and confirms he was DRUNK. With DRUNK power picked the middle card.
7. kgray - Not the ROBBER
8. Rdrivera2005 - Not the ROBBER
9. Jamiet99uk - Not the ROBBER
10. Chaqa


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We just need to hear from you two, please?
If I was a betting man (I am) my money would be on Chaqa being the last to claim/not claim robber

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#86 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:00 pm

Maniac wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:51 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:13 pm

@Lfischl
@Chaqa


We just need to hear from you two, please?
If I was a betting man (I am) my money would be on Chaqa being the last to claim/not claim robber
Why is that, O Maniac?

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#87 Post by Maniac » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:16 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:00 pm
Maniac wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:51 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:13 pm

@Lfischl
@Chaqa


We just need to hear from you two, please?
If I was a betting man (I am) my money would be on Chaqa being the last to claim/not claim robber
Why is that, O Maniac?
You know why. Chaqa lurks, that’s what he does. He is an Olympic-grade lurker. If Bruce Springsteen had ever recorded “Born to Lurk,” Chaqa would have been on the album cover. [note to youner readers album covers were pieces of cardboard which enclosed LPs (vinyl records), they were highly prized for their artwork before the Internet killed them off]. Chaqa has been lurking all game but I’m sure he has been pacing himself and can lurk for the rest of the phase if necessary, with still enough sullen menace left for a final burst of lurking around EOD. So yeah, it’s a safe bet he’ll claim last.

(Apologies to Pratchett & Gaiman)
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#88 Post by Chaqa » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:20 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:39 am
Chaqa wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:27 am
Despite playing like dozens of games of One Night, I have no idea what is optimal here.
How would you normally play?

Have you read your role PM?
I usually spend most of the game convincing my friends they should claim, only for them all to fake claim and mindgame each other. We've got way too deep of a meta for this game lol

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#89 Post by Chaqa » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:22 pm

ghug wrote:
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Jamie, if you were a werewolf before, you can tell us now, since I switched your card.
I'd be shocked if this worked

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#90 Post by Chaqa » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:28 pm

Maniac wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:16 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:00 pm
Maniac wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:51 pm


If I was a betting man (I am) my money would be on Chaqa being the last to claim/not claim robber
Why is that, O Maniac?
You know why. Chaqa lurks, that’s what he does. He is an Olympic-grade lurker. If Bruce Springsteen had ever recorded “Born to Lurk,” Chaqa would have been on the album cover. [note to youner readers album covers were pieces of cardboard which enclosed LPs (vinyl records), they were highly prized for their artwork before the Internet killed them off]. Chaqa has been lurking all game but I’m sure he has been pacing himself and can lurk for the rest of the phase if necessary, with still enough sullen menace left for a final burst of lurking around EOD. So yeah, it’s a safe bet he’ll claim last.

(Apologies to Pratchett & Gaiman)
If by "lurking" you mean "playing video games with friends and forgetting this was going on until bona reminded me" then, yes. Also sleeping.

I was the Robber. I robbed ghug.
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#91 Post by lfischl » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:39 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:13 pm
Updated:

1. Hamilton Brian - Not the Robber
2. Ghug - Claims TROUBLEMAKER who switched KGRAY and JAMIET
3. lfischl- Not the ROBBER
4. bonatogether - Not the ROBBER
5. Maniac - Claims DRUNK who picked the middle card
6. teccles - Claims DOPPELGANGER who targeted MANIAC and confirms he was DRUNK. With DRUNK power picked the middle card.
7. kgray - Not the ROBBER
8. Rdrivera2005 - Not the ROBBER
9. Jamiet99uk - Not the ROBBER
10. Chaqa


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@Chaqa


We just need to hear from you two, please?
I am not the robber.

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#92 Post by Bonatogether » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:43 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:17 am
Ideally doppelganger claims first, but that's been tanked already. Role switching powers should claim, and then seer, and then hunter.
All role switching powers have been claimed, so I claim seer. Center card was villager.

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#93 Post by Bonatogether » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:46 pm

Assuming maniac and teccles aren't counterclaimed, odds are they're clear.

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#94 Post by kgray » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:46 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:28 pm
I was the Robber. I robbed ghug.
Ooh, cool. So did you get to troublemake? Or does that mean nobody got switched?

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#95 Post by ghug » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:49 pm

kgray wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:46 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:28 pm
I was the Robber. I robbed ghug.
Ooh, cool. So did you get to troublemake? Or does that mean nobody got switched?
I still perform my action if I'm robbed. The robber doesn't perform their robbed role's action.

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#96 Post by kgray » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:52 pm

ghug wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:49 pm
kgray wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:46 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:28 pm
I was the Robber. I robbed ghug.
Ooh, cool. So did you get to troublemake? Or does that mean nobody got switched?
I still perform my action if I'm robbed. The robber doesn't perform their robbed role's action.
Oh, yeah I see that now. It was before the roles so I was looking in the wrong place, but "Unless otherwise specified in the role description, players perform the ability of their initial role card, even if their true role is switched earlier in the night adjudication order."

So Chaqa, can you confirm ghug was troublemaker?

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#97 Post by Chaqa » Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:35 pm

kgray wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:52 pm
ghug wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:49 pm
kgray wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:46 pm


Ooh, cool. So did you get to troublemake? Or does that mean nobody got switched?
I still perform my action if I'm robbed. The robber doesn't perform their robbed role's action.
Oh, yeah I see that now. It was before the roles so I was looking in the wrong place, but "Unless otherwise specified in the role description, players perform the ability of their initial role card, even if their true role is switched earlier in the night adjudication order."

So Chaqa, can you confirm ghug was troublemaker?
Indeed. That’s why I laughed at him trying to catch you or Jamie in the swap, it’s some basic shit lol

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#98 Post by Hamilton Brian » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:24 pm

Would the seer's ability at looking at the cards simply be a way of detecting a false claim?

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#99 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:26 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:24 pm
Would the seer's ability at looking at the cards simply be a way of detecting a false claim?
Only in very limited circumstances, I would think.

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#100 Post by Bonatogether » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:28 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:26 pm
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:24 pm
Would the seer's ability at looking at the cards simply be a way of detecting a false claim?
Only in very limited circumstances, I would think.
It's situationally very powerful.

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