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Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:28 am
by ghug
Kakarroto wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:05 am
By the way, Dargo, you said you changed the flavour last minute ... what was the planned ghug flavour?
I was the handsome one.

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:30 am
by ghug
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:00 am
ghug wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:33 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:58 pm


Setups where nobody gets eliminated would take a very long time to play.
I've found one-night werewolf to be very fun in person. It might work well as a minigame alternative.
How does it work?
The game starts at night, people take various actions, and then there's a single daykill. Town wins if the daykill is scum.

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:48 am
by BobMcBob
Ending with a Maniac kill is by far the worst possible thing anyone could've done. I made a point of ensuring that everyone realised it was next to impossible for Maniac to be scum after worcej outted himself to get a miskill, but it seems like that was completely ignored in favour of weak ass alternative scumish things.

Also rdr it was really necessary for you to tie the vote that day, because it meant that ghug had to do something that didn't look great for him no matter his choice.

I hold that Maniac was effectively clear, and ignoring that was about the dumbest mistake town made this game.

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:31 am
by celaph
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:58 pm
jasnah wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:44 pm
I'm out of mafia, it was a fun two games. I hope I never play again but I can't promise to, if there are ever non elimination setups I'm more likely to play. Terrible.
Setups where nobody gets eliminated would take a very long time to play.
I've played set-ups where dead people can still talk. Perhaps I'll run one some day.

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:38 am
by ghug
BobMcBob wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:48 am
Ending with a Maniac kill is by far the worst possible thing anyone could've done. I made a point of ensuring that everyone realised it was next to impossible for Maniac to be scum after worcej outted himself to get a miskill, but it seems like that was completely ignored in favour of weak ass alternative scumish things.

Also rdr it was really necessary for you to tie the vote that day, because it meant that ghug had to do something that didn't look great for him no matter his choice.

I hold that Maniac was effectively clear, and ignoring that was about the dumbest mistake town made this game.
Your logic on Maniac wasn't as slam-dunk as you thought it was. Your logic on me ending felt even weaker. I stand by thinking that Maniac looked townier in the early game than he did there, though obviously my perspective is a little warped.

I am sorry we ended up targeting you Bob, I spent most of the game wanting the alien to win, and there were even brief considerations of throwing to you once we knew, just because things seemed so hopeless.

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:50 am
by celaph
Very clean game, ghug. Well played.

I think it was actually a decent game from town Maniac there though he got the short end for his poor performance as town in the past games.

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:56 am
by celaph
I also seemingly have a blindspot for Bob's (and Bona's style the other game) of playing really out there. Got to adjust.

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:07 am
by TheMadMonarch
ghug wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:30 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:00 am
ghug wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:33 pm


I've found one-night werewolf to be very fun in person. It might work well as a minigame alternative.
How does it work?
The game starts at night, people take various actions, and then there's a single daykill. Town wins if the daykill is scum.
I own a couple of OneNight decks. This might be a setup I could actually run. Put me on a list or smthn...

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 3:03 am
by dargorygel
Kakarroto wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:05 am
By the way, Dargo, you said you changed the flavour last minute ... what was the planned ghug flavour?
I'm not telling... I'll save the original flavour for another game that happens to end with the same players.

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 3:41 am
by dargorygel
Macca573 wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:07 am
ghug wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:30 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:00 am


How does it work?
The game starts at night, people take various actions, and then there's a single daykill. Town wins if the daykill is scum.
I own a couple of OneNight decks. This might be a setup I could actually run. Put me on a list or smthn...
You are VERY very VERY welcome to add your name to the list on the Mafia Master Post! :-D

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:11 am
by Hellenic Riot
Speaking of next games, if/when the Council sign off on my setup I'll be aiming for a start date on either Sunday 18th or Monday 19th April, so if someone wants to run a mini-game in the meantime there should be ample time available.

I also don't anticipate really needing a co-GM because lol lockdown, there's literally nothing happening in life. But if someone wants to volunteer to get some experience with it before running their own games in future then I'd be happy to accept and help show some ropes.

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:40 am
by Jamiet99uk
ghug wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:30 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:00 am
ghug wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:33 pm


I've found one-night werewolf to be very fun in person. It might work well as a minigame alternative.
How does it work?
The game starts at night, people take various actions, and then there's a single daykill. Town wins if the daykill is scum.
Can you talk at night or are night actions basically random?

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:50 pm
by brainbomb
worcej wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:08 pm
dargorygel wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:07 pm
First of all... curses on you all for changing my final flavor.

Any mistakes that remain are due to hasty editing.
Distant cheers ring out down the hallway. It's hard to make out, but it sounds like 4 people shouting 'MVP' over and over again...
WHAT?????
we actually won??
sorry

ghug actually won????

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:53 pm
by brainbomb
I would ask that the scoring comittee award ghug points as if he won as 3p for overcoming a really terrible GM who did everything they could to out our team.

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:30 pm
by kgray
So for the record, nothing about my aggression was fake. It's frustrating when people don't remember pronouns, but we all make mistakes. What's absolutely infuriating is the dismissive responses to being corrected and the comments that show a general lack of respect and acceptance for other people. We need to be better.

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:40 pm
by brainbomb
to be clear I killed you about 11 minutes into the game because youre good and I didnt want my team to have to deal with you. in no way was any comments I made about your defenses of macca anything to actually do with the issue. I had to play it up as if I had no idea you were dead

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:40 pm
by brainbomb
I am sorry that you didnt get to play much

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:47 pm
by brainbomb
there was a moment where it was speculated youd subbed out due to the macca discussion and me knowing you were already dead; I said that it was possible you were fed up

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 3:30 pm
by worcej
kgray wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:30 pm
So for the record, nothing about my aggression was fake. It's frustrating when people don't remember pronouns, but we all make mistakes. What's absolutely infuriating is the dismissive responses to being corrected and the comments that show a general lack of respect and acceptance for other people. We need to be better.
Eh, for what it's worth I do think some patience is necessary and bystanders need to not get involved when someone messes up.

We're not a bunch of malicious people trying to be intentionally rude. Hell, it's taken us quite awhile to phase the L word out...

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:39 pm
by ghug
worcej wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 3:30 pm
kgray wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:30 pm
So for the record, nothing about my aggression was fake. It's frustrating when people don't remember pronouns, but we all make mistakes. What's absolutely infuriating is the dismissive responses to being corrected and the comments that show a general lack of respect and acceptance for other people. We need to be better.
Eh, for what it's worth I do think some patience is necessary and bystanders need to not get involved when someone messes up.

We're not a bunch of malicious people trying to be intentionally rude. Hell, it's taken us quite awhile to phase the L word out...
The reason we were able to phase the L word out was aggressive corrections from bystanders.