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Re: mafiA 65: dreamlanD II [hiddeN]

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:32 am
by ghug
Vecna wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:15 am
ghug wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 11:43 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 11:31 pm


I purport that I concur with this approach.
I forget how bad some mafia players are at Diplomacy. We can still win this if we kill the alien tomorrow. You yourself acknowledged that worcej made a bad move (i.e. one that benefits us) by outing himself when we were probably going to kill damo anyway. Let's punish him by winning ourselves.
secretly you just wanna torture me in a 3p lylo where I either have to choose or watch someone choose between you/rdrivera/maniac huh?
Really I think it's better for my mental health if Jamie throws the game since then it's not my fault when I can't convince whichever one of you is still around at KILO.

Re: mafiA 65: dreamlanD II [hiddeN]

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:37 am
by Vecna
ghug wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:32 am
Vecna wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:15 am
ghug wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 11:43 pm


I forget how bad some mafia players are at Diplomacy. We can still win this if we kill the alien tomorrow. You yourself acknowledged that worcej made a bad move (i.e. one that benefits us) by outing himself when we were probably going to kill damo anyway. Let's punish him by winning ourselves.
secretly you just wanna torture me in a 3p lylo where I either have to choose or watch someone choose between you/rdrivera/maniac huh?
Really I think it's better for my mental health if Jamie throws the game since then it's not my fault when I can't convince whichever one of you is still around at KILO.
yup......

Re: mafiA 65: dreamlanD II [hiddeN]

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:41 am
by ghug
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:27 am
ghug wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 11:43 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 11:31 pm


I purport that I concur with this approach.
I forget how bad some mafia players are at Diplomacy. We can still win this if we kill the alien tomorrow. You yourself acknowledged that worcej made a bad move (i.e. one that benefits us) by outing himself when we were probably going to kill damo anyway. Let's punish him by winning ourselves.
What will your view of our options be
if
Worcej
is
infected?
If mafia kills someone and we're still playing, we know we have 3/7 infected. Killing worcej would then make it 2/6. Mafia have to guess right again or we lose. If they do, we're at 2/5, we kill Bob and then we just have to miskill correctly at 1/3. If we kill Bob, it makes it 2/6, mafia don't have to guess right, we kill worcej the next day and we're at 0 or 1/3. Killing Bob first saves us from relying on a second successful nightkill.

If mafia don't kill someone (please do this one, mafia), we're at 4/8. Kill worcej first, it's 3/7. Again mafia kill infected or we lose. Kill Bob first, it's at worst 2/4 after we kill worcej, so we have to guess right and hope final scum is infected or we lose anyway.

If worcej isn't infected, we're either at 3/7 or 4/8 tomorrow. In the latter case, killing worcej loses immediately. In the former, there's still play, but again we're relying on the mafia.

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:48 am
by Foxcastle
Vecna wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:54 pm
or maybe by fox?

he sure aint the alien
I'm tempted to.

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:51 am
by Foxcastle
Foxcastle wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:48 am
Vecna wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:54 pm
or maybe by fox?

he sure aint the alien
I'm tempted to.
But that's pique and ghug is using some very irksome reason and logic here to chart a potential town win.

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:39 am
by ghug
Foxcastle wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:51 am
Foxcastle wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:48 am
Vecna wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:54 pm
or maybe by fox?

he sure aint the alien
I'm tempted to.
But that's pique and ghug is using some very irksome reason and logic here to chart a potential town win.
What's irksome, exactly?

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:40 am
by ghug
Hi Bob, tell us what you think of our planet.

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:45 am
by Foxcastle
ghug wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:39 am
Foxcastle wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:51 am
Foxcastle wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:48 am


I'm tempted to.
But that's pique and ghug is using some very irksome reason and logic here to chart a potential town win.
What's irksome, exactly?
That I might have to forgo spitefully throwing the game to the alien because you made sense. ;)

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:58 am
by ghug
Foxcastle wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:45 am
ghug wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:39 am
Foxcastle wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:51 am


But that's pique and ghug is using some very irksome reason and logic here to chart a potential town win.
What's irksome, exactly?
That I might have to forgo spitefully throwing the game to the alien because you made sense. ;)
Oh yeah I'm an asshole.

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:52 am
by BobMcBob
ghug wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:40 am
Hi Bob, tell us what you think of our planet.
its pretty nice
the people are so horribly misguided though
i have no idea how were going to win if even half of us have the same ideas as you

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:54 am
by BobMcBob
i shall be working on my assignment due today for a while, then going elsewhere for dinner, so i will not be very conversational for at least 7 hours
the 500 words of analysis im missing wont write themselves

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:55 am
by ghug
BobMcBob wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:52 am
ghug wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:40 am
Hi Bob, tell us what you think of our planet.
its pretty nice
the people are so horribly misguided though
i have no idea how were going to win if even half of us have the same ideas as you
Going with "worcej is lying again" eh?

No ghugpoints yet, but you can get there. Chop chop!

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:57 am
by ghug
BobMcBob wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:54 am
i shall be working on my assignment due today for a while, then going elsewhere for dinner, so i will not be very conversational for at least 7 hours
the 500 words of analysis im missing wont write themselves
Remember to infect the nonclears you want to win the least, because whoever dies at KILO will lose, and if they're infected, so will you.

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:37 am
by BobMcBob
ghug wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:57 am
BobMcBob wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:54 am
i shall be working on my assignment due today for a while, then going elsewhere for dinner, so i will not be very conversational for at least 7 hours
the 500 words of analysis im missing wont write themselves
Remember to infect the nonclears you want to win the least, because whoever dies at KILO will lose, and if they're infected, so will you.
this would be decent advice if you could convince worcej to hand over his infection powers
or hand them over yourself perhaps

Re: Good Morning, UFO-hunters [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:17 am
by Jamiet99uk
Good Morning, UFO-hunters.

Ghug's looking quite sincere here.

Bob denying he's alien.

Psssst, Bob - see if you can redirect Worcej to kill President Eden, ok?

Ok, I'm caught up.

Re: Good Morning, UFO-hunters [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:49 am
by BobMcBob
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:17 am
Good Morning, UFO-hunters.

Ghug's looking quite sincere here.

Bob denying he's alien.

Psssst, Bob - see if you can redirect Worcej to kill President Eden, ok?

Ok, I'm caught up.
denying im alien?
yeah no kidding
i think worcej already intends to kill pe honestly
most logical choice except maybe infecting him

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:45 pm
by Maniac
Town need to do more to direct tonight's kill or insist on a no kill.

For example we need to be very clear what the consequences of killing some people will be.

If scum kill Jamie, Foxx, Maniac, [insert others] then worcej will be killed and hammered tomorrow.

We need to agree the town demand and the consequences and then stick to it.

I've included myself as I wasn't infected up to last night. That might make me a good target for infection tonight so we may want to exclude me from the list IDK.

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:22 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Maniac wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:45 pm
I've included myself as I wasn't infected up to last night.
How can you know that?

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:26 pm
by worcej
Maniac wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:45 pm
Town need to do more to direct tonight's kill or insist on a no kill.

For example we need to be very clear what the consequences of killing some people will be.

If scum kill Jamie, Foxx, Maniac, [insert others] then worcej will be killed and hammered tomorrow.

We need to agree the town demand and the consequences and then stick to it.

I've included myself as I wasn't infected up to last night. That might make me a good target for infection tonight so we may want to exclude me from the list IDK.
Man, I am shaking in. My. BOOTS.

Maybe I should holster just because of this high level threat?

Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:34 pm
by Jamiet99uk
worcej wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:26 pm
Maniac wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:45 pm
Town need to do more to direct tonight's kill or insist on a no kill.

For example we need to be very clear what the consequences of killing some people will be.

If scum kill Jamie, Foxx, Maniac, [insert others] then worcej will be killed and hammered tomorrow.

We need to agree the town demand and the consequences and then stick to it.

I've included myself as I wasn't infected up to last night. That might make me a good target for infection tonight so we may want to exclude me from the list IDK.
Man, I am shaking in. My. BOOTS.

Maybe I should holster just because of this high level threat?
Calm down there, Worcej, it was just an example.