Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

[brainbomb]

Okay

##Vote Maniac

there lets kill PC Principal

[BunnyGo]

1x Holy Herb: Allows the player to ingest a holy herb. Once they take it they select one player. If they are killed then that player’s identity is publicly revealed. In effect for the phase taken and the subsequent phase. Once used it is gone.


id be fine revealing maniac

Wait...lfischl, have you already taken it?

no.

Oh...yeah. We have options then.

A) If you're town you get to play "guess the night" with the mafia. If they kill you, a least we get a reveal for it. If they don't kill you, then you let us know the next day and we can decide if it's worth the daykill or AK use for the reveal.

B) If you're scum...well done. You get some time to live, but if you never take the holly and never are the night kill...well, eventually we'll have to actually play mafia and read you.

The problem is if the item thief just lifts it from you. Then we have major wifom issues, AND no benefit. Ugh...

[lfischl]

Wait...lfischl, have you already taken it?

no.

Oh...yeah. We have options then.

A) If you're town you get to play "guess the night" with the mafia. If they kill you, a least we get a reveal for it. If they don't kill you, then you let us know the next day and we can decide if it's worth the daykill or AK use for the reveal.

B) If you're scum...well done. You get some time to live, but if you never take the holly and never are the night kill...well, eventually we'll have to actually play mafia and read you.

The problem is if the item thief just lifts it from you. Then we have major wifom issues, AND no benefit. Ugh...

Yeah.

[BunnyGo]

Oh...another thought, if the alien infected someone last night, they may not want the holly used. *IF* we decide to kill lfischl, then we need a buffer on the wagon. Actually, we need a buffered wagon almost no matter what; we don't want the alien screwing us.

[brainbomb]

NOT ALIEN
Jamiety2k99
emc
chaqa
HR
bona

Probably Not Alien
Ifischl

[brainbomb]

where tf is rdrivera today???

[brainbomb]

after a phase of nearly getting modkilled for not voting this is totally random

[BunnyGo]

PART DREI
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I want to hear from worcej and Bunny go before the end of day. Bunny go despite his earlier characterization of the Jamiet wagon in withering terms ('because he was insufficiently angry') is still on Jamie, why?

If anyone's getting saved, it's Chaqa. Super strong opinions against Jamiet as soon as Chaqa went into the lead. 0/10 takes by brain bomb. Maybe 0.5/10 with 0.5 credit for bringing up the possibility of a save.

I very much disliked your wagon. And while I disagree with chaqas tendencies to play like this, I’ve given up trying to stop them and instead just ignore and deal with after a day or two.
Meanwhile Jamie opened the day pushing a “FIND THE ALIEN AT ALL COSTS” and continues advocating for strongly anti town play just in case kgray was the alien and chooses to help us.

Brain and now Ghug get scum points for this too.

Oooh interesting, a call out on all the usual vecna suspects.

Now that is a juicy data point
@bunny - what did Ghug and brain do for you to call them out like this?

Ending the wall here so Bunny has higher odds of seeing ^this^ question

I see it.

His post progression on page 75-77. First explaining why shaman should commune with kgray, then saying he was unaware of what the scumteam abilities were. The first one is just a bad suggestion, and the second is ghug's "I don't read" play. But when ghug does the "I don't read" play, he doesn't usually make mech suggestions...the dichotomy pinged me.

[BunnyGo]

@bob

I want a serious response to that

In the same post you ask the question you call me dumb. In your previous posts you called me scummy. In that post you call me obv-town. Why am I your only read that jumps around so haphazardly? You weren't this wild as scum in the minigame, so I'm genuinely confused about this.

[brainbomb]

vecnas washed up uncle raymond routine is getting lame

[BunnyGo]

Why are you agitated this game at the most minute level of pushing?

Why has lfischl dropped off the face of the earth after all the early activity?

he's in class rn, and it's not atypical of him to do this

Do you two go to school together like Bob and Macca?

[BunnyGo]

vecnas washed up uncle raymond routine is getting lame

I don't know what that means, but I just read this following post too and they seem to not mean the same thing...

Vecna is lock town for actually hunting here.

[BunnyGo]

Why are you guys voting me then? I'm firmly town. There's no possible way there's any kind of scan on me. There's no possible mechanical information on me. There's no scumslip. There's no VCA tying me to scum, or even probable scum, or even possible scum. THERE IS NO CASE.

i promised brain i wouldnt engage with you any more, but i think I pretty clearly outlined my case against you
i dont need some lame-ass tinfoil meta-mechanical theory or "scumslip" or vca to scumread you, you just need to be acting like scum

I'm not. Fuck you. I know how to and am capable of change my style enough between scum games.

You literally told me when I asked you that you wouldn't do this except "post more"

[Bonatogether]

bona played a blatantly obnoxious scumgame last time
he was pretty widely townread before being scanned
i feel like he may be purposefully ignoring the obviously correct answers
he didnt back down last game as scum despite being told he was wrong and knowing he was wrong
as town id expect him to not so stubbornly stick to what he knows is wrong

Last game was a fluke and it would never work again precisely because everyone brings it up when discussing my meta.

So you *did* consider how to update your game? Didn't you tell me shortly before this that you didn't?

I don't see how this follows from that comment?

[Bonatogether]

i swear, bona making no useful contributions, playing in a distinctly anti-town way and arguing in the most frustrating way possible just because he knew he could claim to save his ass makes me want to bash my head against a wall really hard
or his
mostly his
perhaps, bona, you should consider being even vaguely townie for once and then you wouldn't have to claim day 2 because you look so bad
not to mention itd be, like, actually helpful
##unvote

I thought that I could coast like that and not get wagoned or nked like that : (

[Bonatogether]

Good grief.

It's like trying to persuade children to stop eating crayons.

Thus, you just hand them more crayons until they puke.

Just reminds me of this great thread.

ouch

[Bonatogether]

Why has lfischl dropped off the face of the earth after all the early activity?

he's in class rn, and it's not atypical of him to do this

Do you two go to school together like Bob and Macca?

No. He mentioned that he was in school in a diplomacy discord.

[Bonatogether]

i promised brain i wouldnt engage with you any more, but i think I pretty clearly outlined my case against you
i dont need some lame-ass tinfoil meta-mechanical theory or "scumslip" or vca to scumread you, you just need to be acting like scum

I'm not. Fuck you. I know how to and am capable of change my style enough between scum games.

You literally told me when I asked you that you wouldn't do this except "post more"

I'm not scum though, so I played more naturally.

[BunnyGo]

Last game was a fluke and it would never work again precisely because everyone brings it up when discussing my meta.

So you *did* consider how to update your game? Didn't you tell me shortly before this that you didn't?

I don't see how this follows from that comment?

Don't worry about it. I think I understand now.

[ghug]

I will not role claim this game. its time to be better

You've said that before.