Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

[Vecna]

I should probably reflect how good rdrivera actually looks in a world where Fox is town

Well, I always scumread Fox when he is PR (last time we both were we fought until it was obvious). He is far from confirmed but I agree with your take on GMs message, which is not great, but we can't ignore it.

I still think Ghug is Alien, I just don't feel any passion at all on him, even as scum he would at least be pissed with Brain and an overpowered Alien. Not sure I want to go all on on this. Maybe just killing Damo and having another night is the safe play, I really don't know here, trusting scum isn't great too.

@Vecna, would you try to convince us Worcej is the Alien?

I was sort of voting him to make scum nervous. for shits n giggles like

[ghug]

We know item thief is alive so I think the possible combos are

ALIEN ---- ITEM THIEF ----- SCUM PARTNER
Bob ------- ghug -------------- worcej/Maniac/rdr
Bob ------- worcej ----------- ghug/Maniac/rdr
worcej ---- ghug ------------- Maniac/rdr
ghug ------- worcej ---------- Maniac/rdr

@Jamie @Vecna @Fox

thoughts?

Why are you ignoring mafia Vecna entirely?

[Vecna]

because the only way I can be scum is if both the gm has lied a third time and fox is scum with me

[Vecna]

(note; the above post is hyperbole. <3 darg)

[ghug]

I don't follow.

[Vecna]

you even still reading the game ghug?

[Vecna]

what dont you follow?

[ghug]

Damo, why did you give up on asserting that there were five infected people when nobody was calling you on it?

[ghug]

what dont you follow?

It's unclear to me whether there's actually some mechanical nuance I'm missing that clears you or if you're just being Vecna.

[damo666]

Damo, why did you give up on asserting that there were five infected people when nobody was calling you on it?

I don't understand. There can't be 5 or would be game over.

[ghug]

Damo, why did you give up on asserting that there were five infected people when nobody was calling you on it?

I don't understand. There can't be 5 or would be game over.

Current count

T M A A&I N
6 2 1 5 4 (presumably)

scum allow my miskill

5 2 1 4 4

N6 scum kill town infectee

4 2 1 3 4

but alien infects so

4 2 1 4 3 alien wins

So scum must NK/target alien

5 2 1 4 4

but alien infects

5 2 1 5 3 alien wins

SCUM HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO TELL US WHO ALIEN IS SINCE THEY KNOW I AM TOWN

The desperate attempt to fearmonger was one of the few bits of your play I was liking

[Jamiet99uk]

Damo, why did you give up on asserting that there were five infected people when nobody was calling you on it?

I don't understand. There can't be 5 or would be game over.

Current count

T M A A&I N
6 2 1 5 4 (presumably)

scum allow my miskill

5 2 1 4 4

N6 scum kill town infectee

4 2 1 3 4

but alien infects so

4 2 1 4 3 alien wins

So scum must NK/target alien

5 2 1 4 4

but alien infects

5 2 1 5 3 alien wins

SCUM HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO TELL US WHO ALIEN IS SINCE THEY KNOW I AM TOWN

The desperate attempt to fearmonger was one of the few bits of your play I was liking

That's four infectees plus Alien, not five.

[ghug]

I don't understand. There can't be 5 or would be game over.

Current count

T M A A&I N
6 2 1 5 4 (presumably)

scum allow my miskill

5 2 1 4 4

N6 scum kill town infectee

4 2 1 3 4

but alien infects so

4 2 1 4 3 alien wins

So scum must NK/target alien

5 2 1 4 4

but alien infects

5 2 1 5 3 alien wins

SCUM HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO TELL US WHO ALIEN IS SINCE THEY KNOW I AM TOWN

The desperate attempt to fearmonger was one of the few bits of your play I was liking

That's four infectees plus Alien, not five.

He told me that A&I was infected count and N was uninfected count.

[Jamiet99uk]

Vecna cannot be alien unless dead infectee so tomorrow you should vote within

worcej ghug Bob

Examining each in turn as alien my guess at scum pair is as follows:

ALIEN ----------------- Mafia
Bob ‐---------------- ghug and worcej
ghug ------------------ worcej and struggling
Worcej -------‐----------- ghug and struggling

Bob must be the alien

##vote Bob

You’ve surpassed your worst logic ever post from earlier. If it wasn’t for Jamie trying to kill unCC’d PR you’d stand alone as LVP

Excuse me, technically a PR who had been CC'd by an incorrect GM "clarification" which has now been reversed.

[Jamiet99uk]

The desperate attempt to fearmonger was one of the few bits of your play I was liking

That's four infectees plus Alien, not five.

He told me that A&I was infected count and N was uninfected count.

If you can't work out what "A" and "I" stand for in that context, I'm sorry for you.

[damo666]

We are currently 3 + Alien max

implies 2 dead infectees (celaph + ?) or alien went for a kill and failed (unlikely)

[ghug]

That's four infectees plus Alien, not five.

He told me that A&I was infected count and N was uninfected count.

If you can't work out what "A" and "I" stand for in that context, I'm sorry for you.

Exactly.

The A&I number in that post is 5, not 4, and it's not a mistake because it predicated the rest of the logic. At the time I thought he was just trying to make things seem more dire than they were, which seemed like a good thing to do, but then he dropped it, and I want to know why.

[damo666]

The desperate attempt to fearmonger was one of the few bits of your play I was liking

That's four infectees plus Alien, not five.

He told me that A&I was infected count and N was uninfected count.

Correct but starting point should have read 6 2 1 4 5

[ghug]

That's four infectees plus Alien, not five.

He told me that A&I was infected count and N was uninfected count.

Correct but starting point should have read 6 2 1 4 5

But all the numbers follow from the first ones, as do the conclusions. Did you actually just fuck it up that badly?

[damo666]

He told me that A&I was infected count and N was uninfected count.

If you can't work out what "A" and "I" stand for in that context, I'm sorry for you.

Exactly.

The A&I number in that post is 5, not 4, and it's not a mistake because it predicated the rest of the logic. At the time I thought he was just trying to make things seem more dire than they were, which seemed like a good thing to do, but then he dropped it, and I want to know why.

It worked on Jamie!

Just an error in the top line which followed through and I got all excited.