Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

[BobMcBob]

id be pretty happy to kill foxcastle to punish scum for not shooting celaph

If you want to punish scum, you should kill scum instead of me.

but... you are the scum?
thats the point?

[BobMcBob]

So celaph is either alian or infected.
Me ditto from the pov of all but the alien.
Rdr is either alien or cured.

##vote rdr

If rdr is not alien scum nk celaph and i cure myself.

If celaph does not suffer nk he is alien and when daykill him tomorrow.

Obviously if rdr is not alien and celaph flips infected town you dk me.

Easy.

this post is like... mechanically sound (i think) but also not in a way that makes damo look any better
like sure its not total garbage, but thats pretty much all it has going for it

[BobMcBob]

Or we can dk celaph today and i kit rdr.

Doesn't matter which way.

How can it go wrong if scum play along?

why the heck would you kit rdr?
what? huh? damos previous logic went totally out the window in this post
i have a proposal damo: we dk you and scum nk celaph
it works exactly the same way, except better, because the one potentially uninfected person survives
what do you think about that plan? without your stupid "but i know im town" garbage

[Vecna]

So what did you find out Jamie? And Vecna?

Well, it's quite ironic, but you tested positive for Alien DNA, Damo old chap.

My immediate reaction is that I think both rdr and myself are better infection targets than damo particularly after a D2 when he was a small wagon most of the day. ##vote Damo

Yeah, this was exactly what I was thinking about while falling asleep last night.

Is damo really a logical target that either Rdrivera or Celaph would pick on N1/N2?

Would alien Celaph really put a huge scum target on his back by taking out the first scum on D2? How high are the odds you do not get targetted by scum with a NK and outted as soon as one of them gets daykilled after that?

In that regard, damo and Rdrivera both have been playing much more under tha radar than Celaph I guess, in that they have not been a real threat to scum (well if Fox is scum then Rdrivera was one of the heavy pushers there).

The damo not using the kit and trying to use it as leverage today fits just exactly as the alien (or as scum I guess). Him being so adamant he'll use it, and then change it last minute after I indicate several times that he should also get scanned......just reads like he knew he will show up with alien DNA and needed a way to escape the daykill - since he would not win a showdown against Celaph.

[damo666]

##vote damo

At least the number of infected goes down.

I was gonna go through all the different scenarios to determine if there is a best strategy but it's unwieldy and tbh I cba.

I think the only way alien wins is if celaph is scum but I very much doubt that.

Scum must NK celaph.

Sorry I didn't use kit last night. Silly mistake.

[Vecna]

@Celaph - THIS was that post. And no, it never registered with me that this was meant to claim that Rdrivera was being scanned.

And I guess thats not actually the case right? As this mustve been the night where
damo was scanned by him.

>> Rdrivera <<

[BobMcBob]

The Alien hasn't killed anybody yet, have they?

presumably not
its possible, but unlikely

[celaph]

Regarding the alien's ability to manipulate votes, the line reads

Immediately following infection, on the following day phase, the Alien can choose to manipulate the infected player’s vote.

##Call GM: Can the alien manipulate votes only on the day after infecting someone or on all days after infecting someone?

They can fuck with up to two votes, so I assume that means it starts immediately and continues as long as they're infected.

The phrase could also apply if they had infected 3 people in one night through something like camper. I agree that your interpretation is more likely, I just want to get it checked.

[BobMcBob]

Order of operations says that kits happen after infections, so literally whenever.

Right, but we can rule out last night, can't we? Because the Alien Infection says it takes one night before it manifests (that's mentioned in point 1 of the Alien Infection sequence). So if the Alien had infected Rdrivera last night, Vecna would *not* have been told that Rdrivera was infected.

Note: I mean this bit, from ND on Page 1:

Infection Stages
1. Night of Infection: If the Alien infects a player and that player is also scanned that night they will not register as ALIEN DNA.
2. N2 (Next night): The player will begin to register as ALIEN DNA

id assume this only applies to scans and not to kits, but idk for sure

[BobMcBob]

I'm psyched Kakrroto's back.

i only remember him for his name and his ruler of austria post from m51 (that was quite something)

[Jamiet99uk]

I will have an important announcement later on today.

Stay tuned.

[Jamiet99uk]

I am waiting for ND to answer my query.

Note: I am still waiting. I have messaged the GM privately but I will repeat my query here soon if an answer is not forthcoming.

[Jamiet99uk]

We should kill either rdr or celaph.

Killing me you get rid of an infectee sure but lose the kit. Follow my plan and we are guaranteed to kill the alien (unless not one of me, celaph and rdr but then we are probably screwed anyway) AND potentially disinfect and infectee.

It's impressive how you're advocating killing the disinfected infectee and begging us not to kill you so you can disinfect someone in the same breath.

Let's see if I can visit myself. If so celaph is the better kill.

Why not just ask?

##CALL GM: Can someone in possession of a "Reverse Alien DNA Kit" use it on themselves?

[damo666]

##call GM Can a player with kit target and potentially cure themselves?

[damo666]

I will have an important announcement later on today.

Stay tuned.

Is it that yesterday was the vernal equinox?

[ND]

##GM NOTE

" Can a player with kit target and potentially cure themselves?"

Sure

[damo666]

It's impressive how you're advocating killing the disinfected infectee and begging us not to kill you so you can disinfect someone in the same breath.

Let's see if I can visit myself. If so celaph is the better kill.

Why not just ask?

##CALL GM: Can someone in possession of a "Reverse Alien DNA Kit" use it on themselves?

As you can see I already had. And you were requested to highlight in red. [I didn't originally.]

[damo666]

##GM NOTE

" Can a player with kit target and potentially cure themselves?"

Sure

Thank you.

[Jamiet99uk]

I will have an important announcement later on today.

Stay tuned.

Is it that yesterday was the vernal equinox?

This is webDip Mafia, not Facebook.

I import only useful information here, accompanied by choice morsels of cultural education and style advice that every gentleman should heed.

[Jamiet99uk]

I will have an important announcement later on today.

Stay tuned.

Is it that yesterday was the vernal equinox?

This is webDip Mafia, not Facebook.

I import only useful information here, accompanied by choice morsels of cultural education and style advice that every gentleman should heed.

*impart (grumble autocorrect grumble)