Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

[Bonatogether]

So I thought I agreed with you, but then I looked back through the first couple days of that game and the next one where you're town, and I actually don't think this is accurate. You did respond mostly to stuff about you, but you also gave a lot more reads and backing for them. In this game you're kind of just... here? You've handed out a few townreads but that's about it. You don't seem to be solving at all.

Who do you even scumread? You said Durga is the most likely of the Jamie voters to be scum but didn't give any reason for that except she seems different to you, but you only knew her from one game so that's a pretty lame read.

It's been, what, two days? three days? I dunno.

I have reads but I haven't posted them cause a) I didn't feel like it and b) no one asked for a general reads list

[Durga]

Jamie has your opinion on Durga changed at all?

I take it yours has? Why?

No, it really hasn't. I still think you're reminding me a lot more of your scum game, and I think bona could just be an easier target than celaph, Vecna or I.

I don't want you to die, but I can't really justify defending you at this point

I'm so confused. How am I reminding you of my scum game? And why don't you keep your vote on me then?? I feel like there are contradictions in your post.

It's not about being an easy target, I think he's very likely to be scum because he's been super unable to come up with reasoning behind reads or anything that doesn't involve him. I haven't seen anything from you three that I would classify as scummy, although I'm a little confused at your thought process now.

[Durga]

I'm also here and willing to answer whatever questions

What about Rivera this game is different from his normal town games?

I don't think town!rdr spends most of d1 joking although he's as under the radar as usual. Also there was that one comment that made me think he was just happy observing what was going on EoD as opposing to actively participating.

[Bonatogether]

Jamie has your opinion on Durga changed at all?

I take it yours has? Why?

No, it really hasn't. I still think you're reminding me a lot more of your scum game, and I think bona could just be an easier target than celaph, Vecna or I.

I don't want you to die, but I can't really justify defending you at this point

If you can't justify it, it's a bunk position.

[Durga]

I don't think anyone's actually given a substantive reason as to why they think I'm scum other than me not being around for one evening in a game I was informed of the night before.

[Jamiet99uk]

I could force Celaph to make a choice, I suppose.

What does this mean?

It means I could ##Vote Bona.

Now it's tied and Celaph is the only person not on a Group 1 wagon.

[Jamiet99uk]

Your move, Celaph.

[dargorygel]

I guess celaph is still reading,.........

[celaph]

Jamie has your opinion on Durga changed at all?

I take it yours has? Why?

No, it really hasn't. I still think you're reminding me a lot more of your scum game, and I think bona could just be an easier target than celaph, Vecna or I.

I don't want you to die, but I can't really justify defending you at this point

What are the particulars that remind you more of scum Durga than town Durga? I've only seen the latter.

[Bonatogether]

I could force Celaph to make a choice, I suppose.

What does this mean?

It means I could ##Vote Bona.

Now it's tied and Celaph is the only person not on a Group 1 wagon.

I can partially clear myself and so you should vote someone else

[lfischl]

I'd rank the 5 in this order
Kgray
Durga
Vecna
Celaph
Bona

I'd vote kgray because I didn't like how she started the Damo wagon by randomly voting him and not giving reasoning.

OK. Would you be willing to start a kgray wagon?

Very cool that I'm last btw

literally i'm sorry but bona has posted practically nothing substantive (and he's actually been around) and he continues to just react to his name and not much else. i'm pretty sure he's scum here

But what have you done this game. You can’t be saying that bona isn’t doing anything for town when you did nothing day 1.

[celaph]

I don't think anyone's actually given a substantive reason as to why they think I'm scum other than me not being around for one evening in a game I was informed of the night before.

No, I'm here and thinking. I think this is the idea that is giving me the most pause. I feel like I can much more easily point towards concrete reasons why Bona is being voted than Durga. But something in me thinks that Durga is the one I should be voting despite that.

[lfischl]

Celaph it’s up to you. I have to be offline until after EOD or maybe slightly before.

[celaph]

What does this mean?

It means I could ##Vote Bona.

Now it's tied and Celaph is the only person not on a Group 1 wagon.

I can partially clear myself and so you should vote someone else

If you can, please do. Otherwise .

[Durga]

OK. Would you be willing to start a kgray wagon?

Very cool that I'm last btw

literally i'm sorry but bona has posted practically nothing substantive (and he's actually been around) and he continues to just react to his name and not much else. i'm pretty sure he's scum here

But what have you done this game. You can’t be saying that bona isn’t doing anything for town when you did nothing day 1.

Maybe read the thread today, thanks

[Durga]

I don't think anyone's actually given a substantive reason as to why they think I'm scum other than me not being around for one evening in a game I was informed of the night before.

No, I'm here and thinking. I think this is the idea that is giving me the most pause. I feel like I can much more easily point towards concrete reasons why Bona is being voted than Durga. But something in me thinks that Durga is the one I should be voting despite that.

.......I-

[Durga]

What does this mean?

It means I could ##Vote Bona.

Now it's tied and Celaph is the only person not on a Group 1 wagon.

I can partially clear myself and so you should vote someone else

Right.........

[celaph]

Celaph it’s up to you. I have to be offline until after EOD or maybe slightly before.

This makes me curious. If I ##vote Bona (yes I know I just voted), do you think that people on Durga's wagon will move to Bona? Otherwise, while I am the last vote not on the main wagons, town has otherwise decided. If people aren't satisfied with them they should be making arguments to each other instead of just waiting for me.

[lfischl]

I don't think anyone's actually given a substantive reason as to why they think I'm scum other than me not being around for one evening in a game I was informed of the night before.

No, I'm here and thinking. I think this is the idea that is giving me the most pause. I feel like I can much more easily point towards concrete reasons why Bona is being voted than Durga. But something in me thinks that Durga is the one I should be voting despite that.

.......I-

Yes please do.

[Durga]

I've made my case, and I can't defend myself when there isn't anything to defend against