Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]
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Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]
I know I have the unique perspective of knowing this was town v town so I'm inclined to think that scum probably didn't care which one of me or damo died. I'm willing to bet there was scum on my wagon and it makes me feel that kgray is town for trying to get damo killed instead because why bother otherwise
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Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]
I can verify everything Vecna said here. As scum and town I try to have a consistent meta, the scum version being a facsimile of the town one.Vecna wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:08 pmWhy are you trying to make these arguments when you have never played with town jamiet before?Bonatogether wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:03 pmI've never seen Jamie even attempt to try to mimic this supposed town meta of his, so I think your claim that no one would try to miskill Jamie is bunk
Trying to mimic his town gimmicks is literally what he does. He even copied his bloody 10 posts per phase gimmick in your first game here iirc.
Even Jamiet knows that I always try to piss him off on purpose on D1 to determine his alignment.
It is also true that Vecna tries to annoy me on purpose. This is easily done as being annoying comes very naturally to him.
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Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]
Bonatogether, celaph, and Vecna voted for Jamie, then me, then damo, during the time you were the lead wagon, so I assumed they all preferred to DK any of us over you.Durga wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:09 pmWhich players?bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:04 pmYes, I suppose I should have said Durga was saved from the DK, and it seems there may have been a scum motivation for doing so, since several players seemed OK with any wagon except Durga.
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Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]
I'd like it if everyone would rank the 5 suspects in order.
The 5 suspects being Bona, Celaph, Durga, Kgray, Vecna.
(Look Maniac I put them in alphabetical order again)
We know there there are 1-3 scum in this group. So everyone's opinion on which of them is most likely, or least likely, to be scum, would be useful.
The 5 suspects being Bona, Celaph, Durga, Kgray, Vecna.
(Look Maniac I put them in alphabetical order again)
We know there there are 1-3 scum in this group. So everyone's opinion on which of them is most likely, or least likely, to be scum, would be useful.
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Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]
bozo defending me is such a weird, unfamiliar experience. But I don't see any reason for him to do that as scum. Buddying me seems kind of pointless here when he's not in the group of eligible voters, so it would make more sense for him to just push my miskill rather than try to keep me around to save him later when he'd potentially be up for the kill.
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Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]
Benefit of the doubt. I know that you'll be obv-town really quickly when youre town and not busy.
Lets see if I made the right choice.
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Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]
I guess the issue here is it could be 1/5 which means there's 2/6 in the other group which means our odds would be even worseJamiet99uk wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:16 pmI'd like it if everyone would rank the 5 suspects in order.
The 5 suspects being Bona, Celaph, Durga, Kgray, Vecna.
(Look Maniac I put them in alphabetical order again)
We know there there are 1-3 scum in this group. So everyone's opinion on which of them is most likely, or least likely, to be scum, would be useful.
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Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]
Wait why are you even voting me now then
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Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]
Yeah and it only took me an hour to catch up to this lol
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Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]
Thats a mightily accurate assumptionbozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:13 pmBonatogether, celaph, and Vecna voted for Jamie, then me, then damo, during the time you were the lead wagon, so I assumed they all preferred to DK any of us over you.Durga wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:09 pmWhich players?bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:04 pm
Yes, I suppose I should have said Durga was saved from the DK, and it seems there may have been a scum motivation for doing so, since several players seemed OK with any wagon except Durga.
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Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]
Can you elaborate on what is suspicious about my actions/words from your perspective?dargorygel wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:28 pmBlind to the suspicious nature of her actions/words. It does not seem to me that you are just 'also' seeing a town motivation. But that you do not see the scum motivation.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:25 pmBlind to what, Jamie's case against kgray? I understand his case, but I can also see a town motivation for the things he finds suspicious.dargorygel wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:28 pmbozo's apparently blindness causes him to remain on my 'do not let pitch, due to likely drug use' list.
What do you think kgray's scum motivation was for getting damo DKed?
Am I missing something? Does scum need additional "Scum Motivation" for a miss day kill? Would she need anything else but that?
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Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]
Official vote count with approximately 10.5 hours to go in Day 2:
Durga (4) Bonatogether Vecna Maniac bozotheclown
kgray (2) Jamiet99uk dargorygel
Bonatogether (1) rdrivera2005
Will not be doing the links in the vote again...that was time intensive for (what I'm guessing) was very little benefit or use to the players. Let me know if you want that or something else in the vote counts.
celaph
Durga
kgray
lfischl
still need to cast a legal vote.
Durga is currently set to be beaned.
Durga (4) Bonatogether Vecna Maniac bozotheclown
kgray (2) Jamiet99uk dargorygel
Bonatogether (1) rdrivera2005
Will not be doing the links in the vote again...that was time intensive for (what I'm guessing) was very little benefit or use to the players. Let me know if you want that or something else in the vote counts.
celaph
Durga
kgray
lfischl
still need to cast a legal vote.
Durga is currently set to be beaned.
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Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]
Didnt he say in scumchat one of the last few games he'd prefer to be alive with you in endgame?kgray wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:20 pmbozo defending me is such a weird, unfamiliar experience. But I don't see any reason for him to do that as scum. Buddying me seems kind of pointless here when he's not in the group of eligible voters, so it would make more sense for him to just push my miskill rather than try to keep me around to save him later when he'd potentially be up for the kill.
I think you shouldve sheeped me yesterday.
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Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]
Does anyone have a fucking reason as to why they're voting me or naw
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Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]
Because theres a mechanical guilty in our group and you and Celaph are the only ones I dont think are town.
Obv-town and my vote goes to celaph instantly.
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Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]
Saying I don't have a great reason is not the same as having no reason, especially when my reason is not going to be particularly compelling to other people. I'm not saying I thought I had definitive proof that damo was scum, but you saying I had no reason to scumread him is ridiculous.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:05 pmYou were the person who initially said you didn't have a strong reason for scumreading Damo. Did you not say that?kgray wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:00 pmThis is the first time (since my very first game) that the metric I use to read damo has lead me to the wrong conclusion. My vote for him wasn't based on as little as you are saying it was.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:30 pm
You are saying that Town Kgray would push a Damo wagon, when she had no strong reason for suspecting Damo, just because she's matey with Durga and/or Bozo outside of the game and wants to keep them around regardless of their alignment?
Really?
If I very strongly scumread Durga or bozo I'd vote for them regardless of the fact that I like playing with them, but I didn't scumread them as strongly as I scumread you or damo anyway. And yeah, my personal feelings about people does affect who I want to kill. I know it shouldn't, but I'm not a robot. Sue me.
Oh, yes you did.
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Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]
Surely from your perspective, it's at worst 1/4 rather than 1/5?Durga wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:21 pmI guess the issue here is it could be 1/5 which means there's 2/6 in the other group which means our odds would be even worseJamiet99uk wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:16 pmI'd like it if everyone would rank the 5 suspects in order.
The 5 suspects being Bona, Celaph, Durga, Kgray, Vecna.
(Look Maniac I put them in alphabetical order again)
We know there there are 1-3 scum in this group. So everyone's opinion on which of them is most likely, or least likely, to be scum, would be useful.
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Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]
Wtf do you think this is? Ah yes let me just move into obv town gear mood that'll show you all.... Ffs what nonsense. Why would I actively try to obv town that doesn't even make sense and this isn't how it works. What about me is more scummy than celaph??? Why are the others town?
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