Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:22 am
I feel like we should all just Occam's razor this and go with simplest reads, since that's probably what it is.
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Yeah I was really hoping celaph's death would just end it.brainbomb wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:53 amWhen I open webdip and see the threads latest post is by Jamie I keep wishing on a small level it is to announce the game has ended and that the bad guys have conceded but I do not feel that the scum in this game are in any danger. It is very hard to transition back into solving mode when youve decided x is x and y is y. I can tell you from experience that scum will claim all throughout a game and look for windows of opportunity, theyll guess, theyll try to shoot the moon, or theyll use things within their own grasp to influence being mech cleared.
Nope; just ate the chocolate now. Small dose.brainbomb wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:04 amstartin the shrooms early?Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:00 amReally? How would you have lept to that? All this innuendo stuff!
What about coroner? Any sign of them?
That's a lot.Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:06 amSo who are the clear town reads? And Why?
Or are we back at the beginning?
Only if Vecna is town...Ezio wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:14 amThat's a lot.Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:06 amSo who are the clear town reads? And Why?
Or are we back at the beginning?
We have *tons* of ppl confirmed not mafia, but many fewer confirmed town.
I'd call rd more of a 99.9%, but yeah.BunnyGo wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:19 amOnly if Vecna is town...Ezio wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:14 amThat's a lot.Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:06 amSo who are the clear town reads? And Why?
Or are we back at the beginning?
We have *tons* of ppl confirmed not mafia, but many fewer confirmed town.
We have several more confirmed vanilla (if damo is town)
We have 3 town clears
Remember the competition was an alien. To the mafia, the wagons were both fine.Donny Dude wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:42 amlfischl (8)
Hamilton Brian BobMcBob e.m.c^42 celaph damo666 Ezio Hellenic Riot ghug
Posting this for myself to look at for a more scum-motivated wagon on d1 and look at it again.
Brain, why do you think the massclaim and current reads have not been contested more?
I know, and I am thinking the alien would be on celaph cw instead of being off it completely like macca was.BunnyGo wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:03 amRemember the competition was an alien. To the mafia, the wagons were both fine.Donny Dude wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:42 amlfischl (8)
Hamilton Brian BobMcBob e.m.c^42 celaph damo666 Ezio Hellenic Riot ghug
Posting this for myself to look at for a more scum-motivated wagon on d1 and look at it again.
Brain, why do you think the massclaim and current reads have not been contested more?
Take more it can only help, bad idea bears says.
You're on a budget, you gotta buy in bulk!
Emc, Not much there other than not reading and rdr is not out of the ordinary. Scum reads lfi ,"Skimmed lfi, he seems to be faking the extremely noob thing in regards to Vecna, considering how much discord mafia he's played with Bona and co. So that vote seems understandable, what were other reasons?"BobMcBob wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:03 pmOkay, briefly running over things, I'll admit voting Demon was probably not a good move. The two leading wagons are definitely better. Bozo is an awful wagon for today in my opinion. I'm going to move to ##vote lfischl. I don't entirely like the memory half of the case on rdr. It's fine, but not good imo. I feel like I remember these sorts of arguments going wrong in the past (although I too may be misremembering). And fisch is just kinda odd. Honestly I'm not much convinced of one over the other.
Does not like rdr as a kill.celaph wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:17 pmIn terms of absolute scumminess I think bunny, but the cost if I'm wrong is higher than with with lfischl.kgray wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:00 pmI agree with all of this, but I'm struggling to think of scummier people. Who's your top scumread?celaph wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:57 pmWhile I like the people on rdr's wagon more than those on my own, I don't think that rdr is a great D1 kill. I think a lot of his scumminess is coming from general activity and unlike lfischl he produced content when he was around. That said, I like the argument that his agreement with kgray on BB was weird, it certainly was.
Colors went terribly awry. Tried to denote based off movement pattern.Donny Dude wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:34 amK, I will now highlight end d1 and d2 and wagons.
lfischl (8)
Hamilton Brian BobMcBob e.m.c^42 celaph damo666 Ezio Hellenic Riot ghug
celaph (8)
kgray Donny Dude BunnyGo DemonRHK lfischl Maniac
jasnah Bonatogether(technically on lfi.)
Rest off wagon
celaph (7)
damo666 ghug brainbomb Bonatogether Macca573 BunnyGo Maniac
Ezio (7)
Hamilton Brian Donny Dude e.m.c^42 Vecna jasnah celaph Hellenic Riot
Hellenic Riot (3)
DemonRHK rdrivera2005 kgray
I'm confused about how the colors line up with movement - is it by wagon? by time moved onto final wagon?Donny Dude wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:35 amColors went terribly awry. Tried to denote based off movement pattern.Donny Dude wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:34 amK, I will now highlight end d1 and d2 and wagons.
lfischl (8)
Hamilton Brian BobMcBob e.m.c^42 celaph damo666 Ezio Hellenic Riot ghug
celaph (8)
kgray Donny Dude BunnyGo DemonRHK lfischl Maniac
jasnah Bonatogether(technically on lfi.)
Rest off wagon
celaph (7)
damo666 ghug brainbomb Bonatogether Macca573 BunnyGo Maniac
Ezio (7)
Hamilton Brian Donny Dude e.m.c^42 Vecna jasnah celaph Hellenic Riot
Hellenic Riot (3)
DemonRHK rdrivera2005 kgray