MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[Vecna]

Yes, but I thought it came out as a vt card anyways?
So how would macca know specifically it is miller?

I don't. I'm saying that if someone's read me "guilty" I could be the miller.

The way that this is framed as hypothetical makes me think it is slip lmao.

##vote Macca

lol, you naughty boy, you

[Vecna]

The way that this is framed as hypothetical makes me think it is slip lmao.

##vote Macca

Anyway I am probably sticking with this, unless there's convincing explanation offered.

Agree with emc, both on the vote and the hypothetical being a non-towny way to express that opinion.

[Vecna]

@Bob I mean, we're probably going to hammer celaph the day after this one, so there's no need in rushing.

[Vecna]

Our cop role is near useless at this point. You should scan Ezio tonight to confirm celaph's claim tomorrow.

Like this is actually so anti-town it's ridiculous.

dont worry, you have a cop that actually did usefull stuff

[BobMcBob]

Ezio is staring at this thread wondering what to do.

I've been spending my time rereading bunny. Def harder without the bot. I've been following loosely most of the day, and I think bunny has mentioned the roleblock multiple times this phase.
Then, later on, it seemed like he then realized the potential reason for a roleblock this phase being so important. I believe I asked him this question "what would we learn about the roleblock knowledge today" much earlier in the day, and didn't get a response (possible I missed it), but I'm fairly certain he did not say "whoever was roleblocked this phase in conf mafia without a doc save".

It seemed to me to be theatrics building up to his point as the day went on, but I suppose it's possible for someone to just meander to that conclusion later.

Wouldn't this just be Ezio throwing himself under the bus? He claims that whoever was roleblocked is confscum unless someone claims docsave. This probably means docsave target still has not claimed for some strange reason, Ezio was roleblocked while carrying out NK, or an alien was Nk'd and saved and is refusing to claim to get Ezio miskilled. I'm leaning toward the second at the moment.

[BobMcBob]

the elims are set in stone for the next 60 hours of gameplay. This could lead to apathy and disinterest. We should potentially hammer this unless we think there is something free of wifom we could discover

Who? Macca followed by celaph? Makes sense I guess.

[Vecna]

OK, since Kgray is insistant on not letting me continue doing the thing that is in towns best interest

(Like really, this is how you picture me playing as scum?)

Im the cop. Very non-optimal moment for the reveal, but if im going to be roleblocked and towncleared tonight, theres not much point in keeping up this icky charade much longer. I softed my results at EON anyway and im not sure if EMC picked up on it or not....

N1: Maniac -> Guilty -> psycho reverse -> not mafia
N2: EMC -> Inno -> psycho reverse -> mafia
N3: Jasnah -> inno -> psycho dead -> not mafia

Really hoping that Macca is indeed gonna flip strongman so the docs can protect me tonight to get some more scans off.

[Vecna]

##vote Macca

naturally

[Vecna]

If celaph is indeed telling the truth, then thats a pretty nice blanket of cop scans over the game already anyway.

Celaph, id like to coordinate with either of us calling out their target at some point during the night so we do not scan the same target.

(and cops, please dont fuck around with your protection - the mafia keep talking about hur-dur, only one of us - so theyre probably much more of a threat than were currently thinking).

[BobMcBob]

I was never under the assumption that we were going to kill Ezio before hearing what celaph’s result was

It's that if we pose it as a matter of choosing between confirmed scum, there's pressure to create more "confirmed scum".

Okay, that's fair, I just think Ezio is also scum and I'd rather keep alien!celaph over mafia!Ezio. Aliens aren't as big of a threat to us because they can't NK every night.

Aliens are likely to be higher in numbers though, meaning that they could conceivably be far more dangerous.

[BobMcBob]

And why didn't you two jump down Bunny's throat when I was just agreeing with him?

I think celaph is more likely to be influenced by his pocket pal, and criticizing Bunny is more of a cathartic release than a productive activity.

(Plus you insulted my negotiation and I saw an opportunity)

I didn't insult your negotiation though? It was aimed at Bob and bona because they were trying to threaten celaph into giving up his info but simultaneously implying he was going to die even if he cooperated, so there's no incentive for him to cooperate.

Well of course he's going to die, but if he cooperates we let him live longer. Sounds like a deal to me.

[rdrivera2005]

It's that if we pose it as a matter of choosing between confirmed scum, there's pressure to create more "confirmed scum".

Okay, that's fair, I just think Ezio is also scum and I'd rather keep alien!celaph over mafia!Ezio. Aliens aren't as big of a threat to us because they can't NK every night.

Aliens are likely to be higher in numbers though, meaning that they could conceivably be far more dangerous.

Well, that's a lot of reveals for a single day. Many plot twists.

[Maniac]

Our cop role is near useless at this point. You should scan Ezio tonight to confirm celaph's claim tomorrow.

Like this is actually so anti-town it's ridiculous.

dont worry, you have a cop that actually did usefull stuff

Scum slip here. “You have a cop..”

[BobMcBob]

Okay, that's fair, I just think Ezio is also scum and I'd rather keep alien!celaph over mafia!Ezio. Aliens aren't as big of a threat to us because they can't NK every night.

Aliens are likely to be higher in numbers though, meaning that they could conceivably be far more dangerous.

Well, that's a lot of reveals for a single day. Many plot twists.

Indeed. Number of crazy events and reveals is through the roof. Did not expect two people to claim scum in a single game, let alone in the same day.

[Maniac]

I should’ve read the whole thread before commenting.

That’s some good work Vecna. We are giving our doc(s) at lot to do though, but with all the info we are receiving today this is a good day.

[Vecna]

Like this is actually so anti-town it's ridiculous.

dont worry, you have a cop that actually did usefull stuff

Scum slip here. “You have a cop..”

[Jamiet99uk]

The contractions had started. It hurt, but at least she'd done this before.

William.

This was different. This child was truly theirs.

She called for the nurse. She wanted Fox with her.

VOTE COUNT 4.7

Macca573 (14) - ghug, Donny Dude, celaph, Maniac, BunnyGo, rdrivera2005, Hamilton Brian, brainbomb*, Bonatogether, e.m.c^42, kgray, Ezio, jasnah*, Vecna
celaph (4) - damo666*, DemonRHK, Macca573, BobMcBob.

MACCA is scheduled for delection.

There are three endvotes.

A little over 11 hours remains.

[damo666]

what mafia team would have macca doing the kills if he wasnt a strongman?

One where they constitute the entire team

[BunnyGo]

OK, since Kgray is insistant on not letting me continue doing the thing that is in towns best interest

(Like really, this is how you picture me playing as scum?)

Im the cop. Very non-optimal moment for the reveal, but if im going to be roleblocked and towncleared tonight, theres not much point in keeping up this icky charade much longer. I softed my results at EON anyway and im not sure if EMC picked up on it or not....

N1: Maniac -> Guilty -> psycho reverse -> not mafia
N2: EMC -> Inno -> psycho reverse -> mafia
N3: Jasnah -> inno -> psycho dead -> not mafia

Really hoping that Macca is indeed gonna flip strongman so the docs can protect me tonight to get some more scans off.

Very spicy.

[damo666]

What he hasn't done that at all??

Pages upon pages of his ridiculous "there's no mafia and the aliens killed bozo N1 because they were hunting for the SK and they're these three people who made some vaguely similar posts around that time" theory don't qualify as that to you?

I don't think it was pages and pages and I don't think he was sucking the air out of the thread, no. You're being rudely dismissive.

Brain's theories were abject nonsense