MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[kgray]

I think celaph is more likely to be influenced by his pocket pal, and criticizing Bunny is more of a cathartic release than a productive activity.

(Plus you insulted my negotiation and I saw an opportunity)

I didn't insult your negotiation though? It was aimed at Bob and bona because they were trying to threaten celaph into giving up his info but simultaneously implying he was going to die even if he cooperated, so there's no incentive for him to cooperate.

Oh, I thought you just got mad at Bob for playing hardball on the Ezio scan, which I inspired him to do.

No, that was unrelated and mostly joking because celaph is my new bff. Playing hardball is fine but not if you tell the person “we’re going to kill you regardless” lmao

[ghug]

Hi jasnah.

[jasnah]

##vote macca ##end

[ghug]

##vote macca ##end

Well said.

[BobMcBob]

What he hasn't done that at all??

Pages upon pages of his ridiculous "there's no mafia and the aliens killed bozo N1 because they were hunting for the SK and they're these three people who made some vaguely similar posts around that time" theory don't qualify as that to you?

I don't think it was pages and pages and I don't think he was sucking the air out of the thread, no. You're being rudely dismissive.

It wasn't pages and pages, but it was an awful theory with even worse justification.

[celaph]

Celaph, I propose a compromise:

You reveal your Ezio result (and future results as they come) at the end of the night. This ensures that you effectively screw the mafia if they choose to kill you, while gaining a new bargaining chip for the next day immediately to keep you from the daykill.

As this is a diplomacy site, I encourage you all to listen to ghug's reasonable negotiation tactics.

[celaph]

I think we may take ezio out before celaph. Celaph is more fun when he's enjoying the game.

I'm absolutely in favor of taking Ezio out before celaph.

You're creating perverse incentives.

No, she's pocketing me. There is a difference.

[celaph]

celaph why didnt you guys vanillize anyone or stump anyone to ruin towns PR

What a brilliant insightful question! Let me go to the QT and ask all my allies...

Oh HR, why didn't you turn anyone into a treestump? That would have been mighty useful. Oh, because you didn't have that power. Yeah, neither did I.

[ghug]

Ok wouldn't it be hilarious if we were playing this whole time with two aliens and one mafia?

[BobMcBob]

Ezio's PST. Dude's just lurking...

totally roleblocked kill...

Yeah, that's where I'm at.

Missed this actually. Now that that information is out there, Ezio being mafia killer who got RB'd is one of the most likely options for what happened last night. Of course, do we then believe that Macca is the only scum on the team?

[ghug]

totally roleblocked kill...

Yeah, that's where I'm at.

Missed this actually. Now that that information is out there, Ezio being mafia killer who got RB'd is one of the most likely options for what happened last night. Of course, do we then believe that Macca is the only scum on the team?

No, Ezio would also be on the team in the scenario where Ezio is on the team.

[BobMcBob]

Yeah, that's where I'm at.

Missed this actually. Now that that information is out there, Ezio being mafia killer who got RB'd is one of the most likely options for what happened last night. Of course, do we then believe that Macca is the only scum on the team?

No, Ezio would also be on the team in the scenario where Ezio is on the team.

Nah like now that this is a possible circumstance, the question is do we believe macca's claim. Badly phrased.

[ghug]

Missed this actually. Now that that information is out there, Ezio being mafia killer who got RB'd is one of the most likely options for what happened last night. Of course, do we then believe that Macca is the only scum on the team?

No, Ezio would also be on the team in the scenario where Ezio is on the team.

Nah like now that this is a possible circumstance, the question is do we believe macca's claim. Badly phrased.

I see no reason to take Macca's word at face value.

[Vecna]

Fuck it. I think the odds I win are pretty much at 0 anyways after HR did his thing so I may as well have some fun. Please don't end me.

I hard claim being a member of PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Alternative humans). I am campaigning strongly to support the right to live freely and openly for all alternative humans. I am here to share the message that alternative humans are a peaceful lot and that we mean you no harm. We have feelings and are conscious just like you. Please treat us accordingly.

I would also like to highlight the amount of anti-alternative human sentiment that has cropped up this game in particular. The use of anti-alternative human slurs (particularly a**en) has seen a sharp increase this game. Please educate yourselves and avoid the use of such harmful and derogatory language. Additionally, a number of prominent public figures have openly made death threats against alternative-humans and advocated genocide. Such measures are obviously an over reaction and are quite damaging when it comes to our public image as we start to come out. I would encourage a more friendly, welcoming, and peaceful tone.

While there are some trouble makers among us alternative humans, we do our best to handle misconduct internally and are working hard and fast to clean up. Upon finding out that one of our own was mishandling state secrets and changing crucial information, we made sure to quickly and expediently alert the proper authorities and remove him. The lack of town press regarding how well we handled the case is frankly saddening, but not unexpected. The fact that accusations of criminal behavior continued despite our proper handling of the matter highlights how people are using these recent calls for law and order to unfairly target us. Indeed, if one properly looks at the data, you humans have been responsible for far more deaths in recent days.

If any of you all have any questions about the lives of us alternative humans, or even if you just want to have the chance to meet one of us, please come talk with me and ask me anything. I promise I won’t be offended by any uneducated remarks.

Before I begin the ama, there are two points that I should make. The first is that Macca is member of a nefarious organization responsible for the deaths of many innocent townies. I strongly encourage you to be more accepting of us alternative humans and focus on handling the problems among yourselves first. A good first step is ##vote mecca ##end. Please know that voting me will not stop the bloodshed you’re seeing. Secondly, while she was not in there long, cagey ray fits very nicely in my pockets and I encourage others to see if she fits in yours. If she is proving stubborn, try complementing her when she least expects it, that usually does the trick.

called it

[Vecna]

In any case, we just got a free cop. When the time comes that we need to kill celaph, or he lies to us, we can kill him next (though I expect the mafia will kill him first, given the whole cop thing). We can't trust his innos (I'd argue with the exception of me, because I was scanned well before he claimed), but we can kill his guilties.

##VOTE Macca

He might be juking us. I dunno.

agreed, just kill celaph

[Vecna]

But we get a cop.

Wait, how's he a cop? I'm confused

He's the prober.

He tells us who he scanned every day. If they're guilty, we kill them. If they flip not guilty, we kill him.

Heres the thing though...

We dont know how big the alien faction is vs how big the scum faction is

Everyone was very afraid of the alien faction being the biggest. This was quite possible to be wrong ofcourse but....

It could very well be that keeping Celaph around no longer serves any purpose and that he's just lying to us and still has a bunch of teammates around.

[Vecna]

@celaph can you do Vecna tonight?

Sure!

oh the godthread is loving this....

[Vecna]

So,

The two roles I were offered were VT and Strongman.

Those who know me know I'm a very gullible person, I very easily believe what others say. Bunny spent all of the pre-game thread (at least from my perspective) talking about why the mafia team was garbage and shouldn't be picked. As such, I took VT.

I therefore discarded Strongman, which is why the mafia kill keeps getting blocked, they don't have one.


Before I'm executed, I would like to remind the jury of two things.

1. Celaph is an alien, you're going to trust him? Even if I flip scum, this is not a good solution. He's going to keep RBing you as he "scans".

2. The miller exists.

Thank you for listening.

lol

[BobMcBob]

No, Ezio would also be on the team in the scenario where Ezio is on the team.

Nah like now that this is a possible circumstance, the question is do we believe macca's claim. Badly phrased.

I see no reason to take Macca's word at face value.

I'm not suggesting we do. In fact I'm suggesting we question it. What is most likely? Where does Ezio fit in. Personally I'm thinking Ezio and Macca are reasonably likely scumbuddies at this point.

[BobMcBob]

@celaph can you do Vecna tonight?

Sure!

oh the godthread is loving this....

I'm sure any spectators are having a brilliant time right now lol.