MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[Bonatogether]

I think you weren’t born then...

Ah

Assisted suicide man.

Wait, what?

[brainbomb]

Mafia Compulsive Hider discarded by bob
Mafia Doctor
Mafia Godfather discarded by bozo
Mafia Goon discarded by ghug
Mafia Goon discarded by bona
Mafia Goon discarded by brain
Mafia Goon discarded by celaph (redacted)
Mafia Goon
Mafia Loud Role Cop discarded by HR
Mafia Lover discarded by jasnah
Mafia One-shot Governor
Mafia Roleblocker discarded by bunnygo
Mafia Strongman Macca
Mafia Tracker
Mafia Underdog
Mafia Underdog

Ezio could be a mafia doc given his retraction early game

[jasnah]

Donny and jasnah still topping my alien scum list.

And you're topping mine, but we could both claim One-Shot Mass Redirector today and there'd still be 3-4 people in line ahead of us to get through before either of us could be put on block. Town has flourished under my leadership. I sure hope it's auto because I could prepare a grand monologue to direct town towards the next target but it would be a lot of work

[brainbomb]

emc is a tracker an underdog or maf gov based on whats left

[brainbomb]

Donny and jasnah still topping my alien scum list.

And you're topping mine, but we could both claim One-Shot Mass Redirector today and there'd still be 3-4 people in line ahead of us to get through before either of us could be put on block. Town has flourished under my leadership. I sure hope it's auto because I could prepare a grand monologue to direct town towards the next target but it would be a lot of work

is this your role claim? because that could heavily change results of things we think we know

[brainbomb]

oh mass redirector nvm

I can confirm there was no mass redirects n1 or n2

[BunnyGo]

I don’t think I’m mech cleared as anything. Neither is kgray. But we’re both towny as fuck.

Well not *all* of this is true... but I agree with your conclusion somehow

Wait, unless you're following celaph's "if she's being stubborn, compliment her when she least expects it" advice....

[jasnah]

Donny and jasnah still topping my alien scum list.

And you're topping mine, but we could both claim One-Shot Mass Redirector today and there'd still be 3-4 people in line ahead of us to get through before either of us could be put on block. Town has flourished under my leadership. I sure hope it's auto because I could prepare a grand monologue to direct town towards the next target but it would be a lot of work

is this your role claim? because that could heavily change results of things we think we know

Is that a tentacle in your pocket or are you just excited you've found another way to tunnel me?

Keep calm and carry on, there will be no claim from me today, and probably not tomorrow either if we're being real

[e.m.c^42]

Is Vecna scanning Ezio?

[brainbomb]

@bona

Your defense of me is awful. While DK'ing me wouldn't give any information about *my* posts, you still get the interactions from everyone else to the wagon.

If I flip scum d1 then (in a normal setup with only 1 scumteam), then ppl who pushed me and were willing to vote *me* as opposed to the other low posters have huge towncred. The people who pushed hard against me would have scumcred. You can basically flip it for townflip.

Essentially, there's still tons of information about me from the rest of the game, even if I don't say anything at all. When you add on the value a big poster like Kgray (not brainbomb) adds to the game, on day one where every read is bullshit, you should go after the low poster.

We get that info regardless of who we vote. However, if we vote active people, we then get insight on a fair amount of interactions that day, which we do not get if we vote lurkers.

I agree interactions are important. Lurkers will continue to lurk and high posters will continue to post high post counts.

These high posters are going to die at some point, so letting them play more gives us more time to gather information about them for the future.

ezio coaching bona for some reason?

[Bonatogether]

We get that info regardless of who we vote. However, if we vote active people, we then get insight on a fair amount of interactions that day, which we do not get if we vote lurkers.

I agree interactions are important. Lurkers will continue to lurk and high posters will continue to post high post counts.

These high posters are going to die at some point, so letting them play more gives us more time to gather information about them for the future.

ezio coaching bona for some reason?

Everyone who talked with me about my idea said some variation of the same thing (high-talkers give more info alive, lurkers don't)

[Vecna]

Hang on, we now have two confirmed scum, a bunny vs Macca lying argument, a potential Ezio mafia depending on that outcome, and now a Vecna vs emc battle? This game... Is just... Incredible...

A vecna vs emc battle?

As in, one of these people is lying. It's pretty one-sided to be fair.

EMC hasnt even denied it yet lol

[jasnah]

The real reason to chop vegetables is that they vegetate when they're a wagon candidate, and if they make it off the block successfully they whine over the night how they weren't checking the thread so couldn't have offered any defence, and you can't easily discredit them, so on the low chance they're town you haemorrhage info and valuable trial time and let the Godfather's dirty lawyers run the show.

[kgray]

We get that info regardless of who we vote. However, if we vote active people, we then get insight on a fair amount of interactions that day, which we do not get if we vote lurkers.

I agree interactions are important. Lurkers will continue to lurk and high posters will continue to post high post counts.

These high posters are going to die at some point, so letting them play more gives us more time to gather information about them for the future.

ezio coaching bona for some reason?

I feel like this is more likely to be a "look I'm a reasonable and polite townie trying to help out the new guy" thing.

[brainbomb]

Why are we voting Macca? I agree that their play looks like scum, but they've been inactive and them getting voted off tells us much less than someone else.

[kgray]

I agree interactions are important. Lurkers will continue to lurk and high posters will continue to post high post counts.

These high posters are going to die at some point, so letting them play more gives us more time to gather information about them for the future.

ezio coaching bona for some reason?

Everyone who talked with me about my idea said some variation of the same thing (high-talkers give more info alive, lurkers don't)

It seems like you are still very much missing the point, but let's please not go there again.

[BunnyGo]

The real reason to chop vegetables is that they vegetate when they're a wagon candidate, and if they make it off the block successfully they whine over the night how they weren't checking the thread so couldn't have offered any defence, and you can't easily discredit them, so on the low chance they're town you haemorrhage info and valuable trial time and let the Godfather's dirty lawyers run the show.

What are you talking about? There’s no GF. There’s no lawyers. And we have so many daykills coming up and lots of time to dig into a detailed read of all your attempts to save celaph, and then push them when you couldn’t save, and then save again when possible.

[Vecna]

@kgray: did I miss a way that Macca and I can be telling the truth without ezio being the mafia killer?

repeat again what you said why Ezio is such a strong target? I mustve missed that detail

Celaph claimed Ezio was RB target before knowing if/who was docsaved

Ezio confirmed RB

Nobody has claimed saved.

Macca says I was the target.

I was not saved.

Hence: only reason there was no NK was that the aliens RBd the NK.

Or either of the BP roles got hit and the person is quiet

[kgray]

repeat again what you said why Ezio is such a strong target? I mustve missed that detail

Celaph claimed Ezio was RB target before knowing if/who was docsaved

Ezio confirmed RB

Nobody has claimed saved.

Macca says I was the target.

I was not saved.

Hence: only reason there was no NK was that the aliens RBd the NK.

Or either of the BP roles got hit and the person is quiet

Alien BP was discarded by lfischl, so if there's a towny BP they should claim.

[Bonatogether]

ezio coaching bona for some reason?

Everyone who talked with me about my idea said some variation of the same thing (high-talkers give more info alive, lurkers don't)

It seems like you are still very much missing the point, but let's please not go there again.

I'm still right