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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#9101 Post by e.m.c^42 » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:34 pm

If that was entire scum team I'd feel kinda bad for them, lmao

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#9102 Post by e.m.c^42 » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:36 pm

I think from here on we just test bona's claims down the line? And perhaps Bob too.

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#9103 Post by ghug » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:37 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:31 pm
ghug wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:26 pm
I find anyone not clear who was willing to hammer there sketchy and anyone clear who was willing to hammer there stupid.

When the scum offer to negotiate, we should at least hear them out.

Luckily bona (maybe) gave his info anyway, but cone on.
I did hear him out. Then I hammered. What’s the problem?
It was a pretty damn good offer, and we had another probably confirmed scum to kill instead. To not negotiate at all is foolish.

I miss kgray.

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#9104 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:37 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:36 pm
I think from here on we just test bona's claims down the line? And perhaps Bob too.
Maniac tests both claims at once.

And if that’s the whole mafia team, what would he know that we don’t?

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#9105 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:38 pm

ghug wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:37 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:31 pm
ghug wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:26 pm
I find anyone not clear who was willing to hammer there sketchy and anyone clear who was willing to hammer there stupid.

When the scum offer to negotiate, we should at least hear them out.

Luckily bona (maybe) gave his info anyway, but cone on.
I did hear him out. Then I hammered. What’s the problem?
It was a pretty damn good offer, and we had another probably confirmed scum to kill instead. To not negotiate at all is foolish.

I miss kgray.
I *did* negotiate. I got him to talk. What’s your problem? Killing mafia is good.

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#9106 Post by damo666 » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:39 pm

damo666 wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:51 pm
Summary 6.N1

CLEAR

Brain Mason, discard claim goon
DemonRHK Mason, discard claim Town (brain says coroner)
Vecna Cop, discard vt

ASSUMED TOWN

Damo Vanilla cop, discard vt

SCANNED OTHERS

Donny claims Town Lover, discard Enabler, scanned non-Mafia by Vecna
EMC claims Town PR, discard Town, scanned non Mafia by Vecna
ghug claims vt, discard goon, scanned non Mafia by celaph and vanilla by Damo
jasnah claims vt, discard Mafia Lover, scanned non Mafia by Vecna and vanilla by Damo
Maniac claims commuter, discard vt, scanned non Mafia by Vecna , non-vanilla by Damo but Alien by Bob

UNSCANNED

Bunny claims town PR, discard Mafia RB
Ezio claims vt, discard Town, scanned non-Mafia by celaph
HamB claims held Town Doc and other town PR
Bob claims Conspiracy Theorist (I think), discard Mafia hider, celaph claims to have scanned without result (making Bob non-Alien on the face of it)

THE DEAD

TOWN

Bozo vt, discard Mafia GF
rdr Loud Voyeur, discard Town
kgray Mason, discard Loud Doctor (as advised by brain)
lfischl JOAT, discard Bulletproof alien lover

MAFIA SCUM

Macca Mafia Strongman, had claimed vt with discard of Strongman so assumed discard vt
Bona goon, discard prob vt (his claim)

ALIEN SCUM

celaph Alien Prober, discard goon
HR Alien Psychotrooper, discard ???



Please report any errors to me for correction. Do not update yourself, please leave that to me so that we can keep a verified up to date numbered Summary.

Thanks.

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#9107 Post by Hamilton Brian » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:40 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:26 pm
okay so thats 4 straight days of mafia eliminations

now a max of only 6 people could still be bad. Maf thinks theres 3 aliens.

Right, but that's just Bona trying to extend their life, right? I wouldn't give too much attention to it. But it might be interesting to play with some numbers.

Mafia doesn't know how many aliens there are; they only know how many of them there are left. Not sure if there's a way to logically work that out sans errors.

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#9108 Post by ghug » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:42 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:38 pm
ghug wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:37 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:31 pm


I did hear him out. Then I hammered. What’s the problem?
It was a pretty damn good offer, and we had another probably confirmed scum to kill instead. To not negotiate at all is foolish.

I miss kgray.
I *did* negotiate. I got him to talk. What’s your problem? Killing mafia is good.
Results based analysis.

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#9109 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:45 pm

ghug wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:42 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:38 pm
ghug wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:37 pm


It was a pretty damn good offer, and we had another probably confirmed scum to kill instead. To not negotiate at all is foolish.

I miss kgray.
I *did* negotiate. I got him to talk. What’s your problem? Killing mafia is good.
Results based analysis.
You think his “we” wasn’t a confession?

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#9110 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:50 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:45 pm
ghug wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:42 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:38 pm


I *did* negotiate. I got him to talk. What’s your problem? Killing mafia is good.
Results based analysis.
You think his “we” wasn’t a confession?
His posts at the end were a confession. The only question was getting him to talk.

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#9111 Post by ghug » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:52 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:50 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:45 pm
ghug wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:42 pm


Results based analysis.
You think his “we” wasn’t a confession?
His posts at the end were a confession. The only question was getting him to talk.
And he easily could have chosen more to reveal that information, and then we'd be in a bad place. There was no reason to rush him.

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#9112 Post by ghug » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:00 pm

Anyway, it's over now. Just let me negotiate next time. Smh

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#9113 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:02 pm

ghug wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:52 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:50 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:45 pm


You think his “we” wasn’t a confession?
His posts at the end were a confession. The only question was getting him to talk.
And he easily could have chosen more to reveal that information, and then we'd be in a bad place. There was no reason to rush him.
Yes there was. It was an interrogation. But as you yourself pointed out, possibly eliminating the last mafia was always going to be the aim. Without pressure, he’d have not said anything until later. Now he did. And any more would have been more leisurely and less panicked.

In addition, WHAT DO YOU THINK HE KNEW?! Why?

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#9114 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:02 pm

ghug wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:00 pm
Anyway, it's over now. Just let me negotiate next time. Smh
Yeah. You were really getting him to talk...

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#9115 Post by ghug » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:05 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:02 pm
ghug wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:52 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:50 pm


His posts at the end were a confession. The only question was getting him to talk.
And he easily could have chosen more to reveal that information, and then we'd be in a bad place. There was no reason to rush him.
Yes there was. It was an interrogation. But as you yourself pointed out, possibly eliminating the last mafia was always going to be the aim. Without pressure, he’d have not said anything until later. Now he did. And any more would have been more leisurely and less panicked.

In addition, WHAT DO YOU THINK HE KNEW?! Why?
There are two potential mafia investigates...
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:02 pm
ghug wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:00 pm
Anyway, it's over now. Just let me negotiate next time. Smh
Yeah. You were really getting him to talk...
I was gone!

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#9116 Post by jasnah » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:06 pm

Ezio, ghug and I are all vt claims who've been scanned non mafia by someone, and ghug and I are further scanned vanilla. So assuming the non mafia scans are correct, at maximum two of us can be alien sympathiser; according to Bona exactly me and Ezio are both alien sympathiser.

In any case Maniac is the stat dk tomorrow. If the game continues and for some reason people are inclined to test the Bona claims I would volunteer to go first, as I can give a full list of remaining scum before I die, and while it would have no more proof than Bona's, unlike the last will of the confirmed maf goon mine will at least be revealed upon my death to have been issued by an upright leader of the town

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#9117 Post by ghug » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:08 pm

jasnah wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:06 pm
Ezio, ghug and I are all vt claims who've been scanned non mafia by someone, and ghug and I are further scanned vanilla. So assuming the non mafia scans are correct, at maximum two of us can be alien sympathiser; according to Bona exactly me and Ezio are both alien sympathiser.

In any case Maniac is the stat dk tomorrow. If the game continues and for some reason people are inclined to test the Bona claims I would volunteer to go first, as I can give a full list of remaining scum before I die, and while it would have no more proof than Bona's, unlike the last will of the confirmed maf goon mine will at least be revealed upon my death to have been issued by an upright leader of the town
If you know who the remaining scum are, you can just tell us now.

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#9118 Post by jasnah » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:10 pm

We should mass claim tomorrow. No one should be hiding behind guesswork and insinuation anymore, no matter how clever. We need more transparency and accountability going forward, namely from those whose extent of claims are still limited to 'town PR'

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#9119 Post by jasnah » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:11 pm

ghug wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:08 pm
jasnah wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:06 pm
Ezio, ghug and I are all vt claims who've been scanned non mafia by someone, and ghug and I are further scanned vanilla. So assuming the non mafia scans are correct, at maximum two of us can be alien sympathiser; according to Bona exactly me and Ezio are both alien sympathiser.

In any case Maniac is the stat dk tomorrow. If the game continues and for some reason people are inclined to test the Bona claims I would volunteer to go first, as I can give a full list of remaining scum before I die, and while it would have no more proof than Bona's, unlike the last will of the confirmed maf goon mine will at least be revealed upon my death to have been issued by an upright leader of the town
If you know who the remaining scum are, you can just tell us now.
I don't know now, I would have to read, and I'm not bothered to do it tonight. I had a really long day dealing with mouth breathers

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#9120 Post by jasnah » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:12 pm

##call GM Bot broken, has advanced to Day 7

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