MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[ghug]

Let's daykill the ones who were transparently saved by a scum, who also lied about their role while on the chopping block.
We could also daykill the ones who made a fakeclaim while under no pressure to protect the very town PR's they faked.

Why are you not at all interested in celaph's motivations for fakeclaiming as various alignments when you were so interested in your own?

He also didn't claim VT while on the chopping block. He claimed it during the first night. I'm not sure how you reached that conclusion when you weren't aware of any details of his role a page ago.

Agree with the first part questioning Ezio, but also celaph cross-posted with EOD in his VT claim.

Oh, my bad. Ezio's still a hypocrite, and claiming VT still isn't the same as claiming something else.

[Ezio]

Why are you not at all interested in celaph's motivations for fakeclaiming as various alignments when you were so interested in your own?

He also didn't claim VT while on the chopping block. He claimed it during the first night. I'm not sure how you reached that conclusion when you weren't aware of any details of his role a page ago.

Agree with the first part questioning Ezio, but also celaph cross-posted with EOD in his VT claim.

Oh, my bad. Ezio's still a hypocrite, and claiming VT still isn't the same as claiming something else.

Idk man. I'm gonna argue they're completely different things. Claiming that I discarded a town role I did not discard is completely different from claiming a town role.

[brainbomb]

I was wondering if the aliens can survive a massclaim

[Bonatogether]

I was wondering if the aliens can survive a massclaim

let's do it

[kgray]

Let's daykill the ones who were transparently saved by a scum, who also lied about their role while on the chopping block.
We could also daykill the ones who made a fakeclaim while under no pressure to protect the very town PR's they faked.

Why are you not at all interested in celaph's motivations for fakeclaiming as various alignments when you were so interested in your own?

He also didn't claim VT while on the chopping block. He claimed it during the first night. I'm not sure how you reached that conclusion when you weren't aware of any details of his role a page ago.

I'm less interested b/c he was saved by HR and HR flipped scum. It's really not that hard. He's a huge favorite to be scum (alien in this game) based on that alone.

IMO the second wagon is always on the chopping block for the following day. He'd already received huge pressure.

Scum!HR sets up townies all the time to look sus when he flips. I've never even played with him as scum and that's basically all I know about his scum game. I don't think this is that convincing.

[kgray]

explain kgray being an alien to me in a weird way

@emc

[ghug]

Agree with the first part questioning Ezio, but also celaph cross-posted with EOD in his VT claim.

Oh, my bad. Ezio's still a hypocrite, and claiming VT still isn't the same as claiming something else.

Idk man. I'm gonna argue they're completely different things. Claiming that I discarded a town role I did not discard is completely different from claiming a town role.

Claiming VT is choosing not to claim something. Almost everyone in this game is de facto claiming VT.

[kgray]

Why are you not at all interested in celaph's motivations for fakeclaiming as various alignments when you were so interested in your own?

He also didn't claim VT while on the chopping block. He claimed it during the first night. I'm not sure how you reached that conclusion when you weren't aware of any details of his role a page ago.

Agree with the first part questioning Ezio, but also celaph cross-posted with EOD in his VT claim.

Oh, my bad. Ezio's still a hypocrite, and claiming VT still isn't the same as claiming something else.

I agree. Also, I don't like how Ezio just took your word that celaph's claim happened at night if celaph not claiming on the block is a huge part of him scumreading him.

[Ezio]

Agree with the first part questioning Ezio, but also celaph cross-posted with EOD in his VT claim.

Oh, my bad. Ezio's still a hypocrite, and claiming VT still isn't the same as claiming something else.

I agree. Also, I don't like how Ezio just took your word that celaph's claim happened at night if celaph not claiming on the block is a huge part of him scumreading him.

I've misremembered things before. Sue me for assuming ghug was arguing in good faith.
I thought it was explained by my perception of "on the block" which has gotten me in trouble in ftf games.

[brainbomb]

okay bona you real claim then ill pick who goes next

[Bonatogether]

okay bona you real claim then ill pick who goes next

Vanilla Town

[Bonatogether]

hardclaim

[brainbomb]

okay bona you real claim then ill pick who goes next

Vanilla Town

I choose Macca to claim next

[Hamilton Brian]

We can assume no SK.

I like the assumption. It makes what we have to do "a little bit easier." ?

But, assume that there is one. Is there any reason why they wouldn't kill? Their win condition is pretty severe. They win when it's 2 (some form...but likely town or town/mafia, town/alien, or mafia/alien)?

[kgray]

Oh, my bad. Ezio's still a hypocrite, and claiming VT still isn't the same as claiming something else.

I agree. Also, I don't like how Ezio just took your word that celaph's claim happened at night if celaph not claiming on the block is a huge part of him scumreading him.

I've misremembered things before. Sue me for assuming ghug was arguing in good faith.
I thought it was explained by my perception of "on the block" which has gotten me in trouble in ftf games.

Why would you ever assume ghug was arguing in good faith?

[ghug]

okay bona you real claim then ill pick who goes next

Vanilla Town

I choose Macca to claim next

If we're doing this, we should deeeefinitely make celaph go next.

[brainbomb]

Vanilla Town

I choose Macca to claim next

If we're doing this, we should deeeefinitely make celaph go next.

No
we do macca next

[Bonatogether]

Vanilla Town

I choose Macca to claim next

If we're doing this, we should deeeefinitely make celaph go next.

What do you mean "if we're doing this"? I'm not gonna hardclaim for no one else to.

[ghug]

I choose Macca to claim next

If we're doing this, we should deeeefinitely make celaph go next.

No
we do macca next

Why no?

[kgray]

I choose Macca to claim next

If we're doing this, we should deeeefinitely make celaph go next.

What do you mean "if we're doing this"? I'm not gonna hardclaim for no one else to.

Maybe you shouldn't have impulsively blurted it out then