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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6421 Post by Ezio » Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:37 am

brainbomb wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:36 am
I was given a gun last night
Shoot celaph and save us some time.

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#6422 Post by ghug » Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:38 am

Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:29 am
ghug wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:29 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:28 am


celaph already claimed VT
Celaph is mechanically confirmed not VT, so he's probably going to claim something else.
So then he lied, and we vote him off
That seems to be the prevailing opinion, though I'm not as convinced as most (VT is the default claim; it's not like fakeclaiming a PR).

I don't really want another day of mostly nothing, though, which is why I'm suggesting we sort out whatever he's going to claim ASAP so that we can either hammer him or move on to other targets.

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6423 Post by kgray » Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:38 am

Ezio wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:33 am
DemonRHK wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:32 am
Ezio wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:30 am


I missed that. How's celaph mechanically confirmed?
damo revealed he had a "Vanilla" on cel N1...when the Psycho was still in play, meaning the result was inverted and Cel is NOT vanilla.
Lol ok. That's a slam dunk then.
Yeah let's daykill everyone who lies about roles :eyeroll:

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#6424 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:38 am

kgray wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:38 am
Ezio wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:33 am
DemonRHK wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:32 am


damo revealed he had a "Vanilla" on cel N1...when the Psycho was still in play, meaning the result was inverted and Cel is NOT vanilla.
Lol ok. That's a slam dunk then.
Yeah let's daykill everyone who lies about roles :eyeroll:
But it's not just that - there's the whole tonal thing, and then there's all the other scummy things.

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#6425 Post by Donny Dude » Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:39 am

So I kept scrolling and Bunny never addesses the larger post Jasnah makes that I can see. Instead says she will need a closer look.
Makes me think Bunny is selectively picking out people /posts to look at and scumread.

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#6426 Post by Donny Dude » Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:40 am

Donny Dude wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:39 am
So I kept scrolling and Bunny never addesses the larger post Jasnah makes that I can see. Instead says she will need a closer look.
Makes me think Bunny is selectively picking out people /posts to look at and scumread.
This makes me think bunny is going for a pocket and not a defense after that.

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6427 Post by ghug » Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:41 am

Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:34 am
DemonRHK wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:32 am
Ezio wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:30 am


I missed that. How's celaph mechanically confirmed?
damo revealed he had a "Vanilla" on cel N1...when the Psycho was still in play, meaning the result was inverted and Cel is NOT vanilla.
If celaph was town PR, he would have no reason to not claim honestly (or a lesser PR) when he was on the block d1. But he didn't claim PR, so he is not PR. It's mechanically confirmed that he's not VT, so therefore he is not town and should be voted =D
This is equally true of scum. Not claiming is arguably sensible if you think you have a chance of surviving, which has happened twice.

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#6428 Post by brainbomb » Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:41 am

(Replace the word dinosaurs with mafia)
This is Jamie watching the god qt flooded with reax

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#6429 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:41 am

ghug wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:41 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:34 am
DemonRHK wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:32 am


damo revealed he had a "Vanilla" on cel N1...when the Psycho was still in play, meaning the result was inverted and Cel is NOT vanilla.
If celaph was town PR, he would have no reason to not claim honestly (or a lesser PR) when he was on the block d1. But he didn't claim PR, so he is not PR. It's mechanically confirmed that he's not VT, so therefore he is not town and should be voted =D
This is equally true of scum. Not claiming is arguably sensible if you think you have a chance of surviving, which has happened twice.
But we should still vote him

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#6430 Post by brainbomb » Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:42 am

brainbomb wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:41 am
(Replace the word dinosaurs with mafia)
This is Jamie watching the god qt flooded with reax
https://youtu.be/LZrUOQnv8xk

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6431 Post by Ezio » Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:44 am

kgray wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:38 am
Ezio wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:33 am
DemonRHK wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:32 am


damo revealed he had a "Vanilla" on cel N1...when the Psycho was still in play, meaning the result was inverted and Cel is NOT vanilla.
Lol ok. That's a slam dunk then.
Yeah let's daykill everyone who lies about roles :eyeroll:
Let's daykill the ones who were transparently saved by a scum, who also lied about their role while on the chopping block.
We could also daykill the ones who made a fakeclaim while under no pressure to protect the very town PR's they faked.

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6432 Post by kgray » Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:46 am

Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:38 am
kgray wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:38 am
Ezio wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:33 am


Lol ok. That's a slam dunk then.
Yeah let's daykill everyone who lies about roles :eyeroll:
But it's not just that - there's the whole tonal thing, and then there's all the other scummy things.
I don't find your tonal analysis exceedingly convincing and I'm not entirely certain what "all the other scummy things" means.

I think him fakeclaiming VT near E0D1 is the most suspicious thing about him but I don't think it's a slam dunk.

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#6433 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:47 am

kgray wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:46 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:38 am
kgray wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:38 am


Yeah let's daykill everyone who lies about roles :eyeroll:
But it's not just that - there's the whole tonal thing, and then there's all the other scummy things.
I don't find your tonal analysis exceedingly convincing and I'm not entirely certain what "all the other scummy things" means.

I think him fakeclaiming VT near E0D1 is the most suspicious thing about him but I don't think it's a slam dunk.
i'm gonna scumread you for this once he flips alien

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6434 Post by ghug » Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:47 am

Ezio wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:44 am
kgray wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:38 am
Ezio wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:33 am


Lol ok. That's a slam dunk then.
Yeah let's daykill everyone who lies about roles :eyeroll:
Let's daykill the ones who were transparently saved by a scum, who also lied about their role while on the chopping block.
We could also daykill the ones who made a fakeclaim while under no pressure to protect the very town PR's they faked.
Why are you not at all interested in celaph's motivations for fakeclaiming as various alignments when you were so interested in your own?

He also didn't claim VT while on the chopping block. He claimed it during the first night. I'm not sure how you reached that conclusion when you weren't aware of any details of his role a page ago.

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#6435 Post by brainbomb » Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:49 am

So yall are scumreading kgray for hardpushing the wrong alien?

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#6436 Post by kgray » Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:49 am

Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:47 am
kgray wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:46 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:38 am


But it's not just that - there's the whole tonal thing, and then there's all the other scummy things.
I don't find your tonal analysis exceedingly convincing and I'm not entirely certain what "all the other scummy things" means.

I think him fakeclaiming VT near E0D1 is the most suspicious thing about him but I don't think it's a slam dunk.
i'm gonna scumread you for this once he flips alien
Do it, I ain't scared.

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#6437 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:50 am

DemonRHK wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:30 am
##CALL GM

If a faction loses it's last member, would that info be revealed on flip?

(i.e: "THE <TOWN/MAFIA/ALIENS> HAVE BEEN ELIMINATED" in the results post?)
No.
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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6438 Post by Ezio » Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:50 am

ghug wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:47 am
Ezio wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:44 am
kgray wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:38 am


Yeah let's daykill everyone who lies about roles :eyeroll:
Let's daykill the ones who were transparently saved by a scum, who also lied about their role while on the chopping block.
We could also daykill the ones who made a fakeclaim while under no pressure to protect the very town PR's they faked.
Why are you not at all interested in celaph's motivations for fakeclaiming as various alignments when you were so interested in your own?

He also didn't claim VT while on the chopping block. He claimed it during the first night. I'm not sure how you reached that conclusion when you weren't aware of any details of his role a page ago.
I'm less interested b/c he was saved by HR and HR flipped scum. It's really not that hard. He's a huge favorite to be scum (alien in this game) based on that alone.

IMO the second wagon is always on the chopping block for the following day. He'd already received huge pressure.

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#6439 Post by brainbomb » Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:50 am

explain kgray being an alien to me in a weird way

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6440 Post by kgray » Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:51 am

ghug wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:47 am
Ezio wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:44 am
kgray wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:38 am


Yeah let's daykill everyone who lies about roles :eyeroll:
Let's daykill the ones who were transparently saved by a scum, who also lied about their role while on the chopping block.
We could also daykill the ones who made a fakeclaim while under no pressure to protect the very town PR's they faked.
Why are you not at all interested in celaph's motivations for fakeclaiming as various alignments when you were so interested in your own?

He also didn't claim VT while on the chopping block. He claimed it during the first night. I'm not sure how you reached that conclusion when you weren't aware of any details of his role a page ago.
Agree with the first part questioning Ezio, but also celaph cross-posted with EOD in his VT claim.

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