MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[brainbomb]

Bob has a reputation of being a strong scum player? Can someone point me to a game he was scum in?

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Bob has a reputation of being a strong scum player? Can someone point me to a game he was scum in?

I think he has a reputation for being a terrible scum player.

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So, to follow along:
Brainbomb: Ask me a question.
Ezio: What do you think about what happened n1 knowing there's no town doctor?
Bob: Something about an earlier claim making sense. 50;50 on no SK or SK withdrawal method. If SK withdraws, then probably not a noob.

@Bob, who's claim? What is the connection to SK and the lack of a doctor? What advantage does the SK have in withdrawing?

And all of this is assuming there is a SK? If not, just an exercise in futility (or at least running through the ideas IN CASE there's an SK)?

But then Bunny: Who wouldn't have thought this? Well, I don't think I would have. I'll go back and reread.

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mostly everyone and their cousin showered bob with townreads

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Bob, I synesthetic, I like to think about things, especially vibes (and smells, but that's unimportant), in terms of colours. It's a vibe read, I'm just explaining it. Maybe not an explanation that helps, but it's a non-zero amount.

Fair enough. But I still disapprove of Meta-VCA-Planning, for aforementioned reasons.

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macca confirned to be on meth rn

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Brain, can you provide a little more commentary on the posts you're quoting? It's kinda just spam at this point.

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I don't have specific sorts of scumreads on many people yet. Bona, brain, Bob, damo probably town. The rest not so much.

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my conclusion is bob is town or sk and hes widely being pocketed by scum and HR got weary of everyone just giving bob a free ride

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lots of folks want bobs opinions which looks good for donny

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next?

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macca would you like a formal study?

[BobMcBob]

macca would you like a formal study?

Formal is a strong word for it...

[brainbomb]

macca would you like a formal study?

Formal is a strong word for it...

quiet you

[Ezio]

So nobody has given me any argument as to the scum upside of my play claiming that I discarded town doctor when I did not, other than the crazy play of claiming town doctor themselves.

What is the town upside for them to make that play? I've given them all the cover they could ever want or need. If I had claimed to discard a scum role to mislead town about the capabilities of scum I would be way more onboard with the rest of you with scumreading me.

As is, it feels like the claim was totally fine and it is simplly that Hamilton Brian needed to figure out what the potential town upside for me to fakeclaim my discard.

[Ezio]

Like, is literally the only world where my play is good as scum the world where HB counterclaims me as town and doesn't get daykilled for CC'ing me?
Is that seriously the world you all think we're living in?

The alternative is the world where I'm trying to bait a pretty easy NK by looking like I powerful PR, and at the very least getting reactions from multiple players.

Srsly guys?

[Ezio]

I feel like way too many ppl are jumping on the "ezio lied" bandwagon. I also feel like a bunch of ppl lied on the "celph gives info" bandwagaon, but tbh I have no idea.
I townread everyone who was pushing HR at EoD, and who ended up voting him so there is that.

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Ok, Ezio, my issue here is that the meta here has only very very recently evolved into fake claiming to cover for town PRs, so your expectation has to have been that you'd be counterclaimed here. You seem to truly believe that there's a pro-town reason for you to make your claim, but if you believe that, you also believe that you can get away with it as scum by saying "this makes way more sense as town than scum", and then we're back to the real outcome, which is outing the person with the card or learning that town probably doesn't have a doctor.

[Ezio]

Ugh. Looking at the bandwagon on me:
We've got HB who started it. I townread him. I don't blame him for claiming that I lied about my discard. I think he *should* have kept it secret and known I was full of shit, but I think that should have made him townread more.
Everyone else on the wagon looks terrible.
Donny dude has followed ppl around and I don't remember a serious post from him. I think he followed me onto someone else, but idr for sure.

Emc has been his usual hedgely self, so I have no idea how hedgy to expect him to be this game. He's usually a profitable early DK, so I exepect that to be effective this true as well.
Vecna/Jasnah have both been far too awol to be following the game closely. I honestly townread vecna but scumread jasnah for it. Maybe my meta reads are wrong for it, but I've found vecna gives many fewer shits while scum.
HR and celaph are the weird ones.

obviously no scumead on celaph for his vote; he was trying to save himself. If I was around I would have voted him.

Hr has the bigger issue. Frankly, imo, everyone who ended their day on me looks quite scummy for it and should be asked to defend their position quite vigorously.

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To be honest you attacked my play so much and dismissed all my reads so I kinda just stopped caring what you had to say