MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

[Jamiet99uk]

Where is Fluminator?

[aarodactyl]

Where is Fluminator?

I was wondering this too. I'm curious what their take on all of this is.

[Jamiet99uk]

Where is Fluminator?

I was wondering this too. I'm curious what their take on all of this is.

All he's done today is laugh about Bunny dying, shade Worcej, and then retract that shade.

[Bonatogether]

I'm keeping a list of tierlists and the day posted and putting in scum/town when revealed.

@bona any conclusions that you've drawn from this? Feel free to post what you have already and then do further analysis in the thread if necessary.

I'll post it in a bit - I'm not going to be around for a couple hours. Nothing hugely shocking in it, mostly cause not many have been posted.

[Donny Dude]

Celaph, who do you believe are the two remaining scum?

Ignoring Bona, I think I would be looking at Bozo, EMC, and you (Donny) with outside looks at Damo and Chaqa. I've got classes for the next 4 hours so I'll probably get around to posting reasons later tonight.

Regarding Bona, my gut reaction is town, but I'm having a hard time justifying that read to myself in a solid way. I certainly don't hate the wagon and I like the way that it's being led.

Thank you
What about bozo seems scummy to you?

[worcej]

@worcej

Do you not think that it's weird that it took the scum that we know of so long to actually vote Bona, that none of them made an active case to try and get him killed, and that the other scum member not only refused to vote him but refused the chance to tie it between ghug and Bona despite having apparently tried to tie it once already? And if Bona is town, why was HB trying to tie instead of just voting Bona?

I think it's weird, but contextually makes sense because ghug wasn't really making cases and was being defensive against the votes on him while brain was just being random much of the day himself. Hamilton's 'cases' were just bad and off on their own anyways, so the known 3 scum were not in good place to suddenly push new options.

Part of your analysis that I struggle with is that you're viewing HB as making optimum plays, when in reality he flounders and flails. Just look at this behavior on D4 for proof of that. Him making the sub-optimal move to try to just tie it make sense in the hands of HB to me.

Also, I think you're assuming I am very strongly opinioned that Bona is town, which isn't really the case, but I believe on VCA that he is most likely town based on a high level look and without a lot of 'if x is true, then y' like I have to do to land at scum. I do not see the same thing as you (he doesn't look awful) but can see a world where Bona was an option for scum to run up, but the scum just didn't execute effectively. There are a lot of options for not properly executing, such as AFK, stuck already on a vote, or trying to not draw attention.

I also see that if Bona is indeed scum, that most likely the 5th scum was already on Bona and couldn't move without drawing attention or making ghug a much more likely option. Thus my statement on, if Bona is scum, then I think we have them dead to rights because the final scum is amongst the 3 I mentioned already.

[worcej]

@worcej

Do you not think that it's weird that it took the scum that we know of so long to actually vote Bona, that none of them made an active case to try and get him killed, and that the other scum member not only refused to vote him but refused the chance to tie it between ghug and Bona despite having apparently tried to tie it once already? And if Bona is town, why was HB trying to tie instead of just voting Bona?

Worcej is voting for Bona, though, right?
So surely if you are right, we flip scum, and if Worcej is right, we learn something. No?

Yes, this is what I am getting at too. I think Bona is the best flip right now with the pool of information available, but I am inclined to believe he is town.

The flip will allow for more VCA with remaining players to review and paint a better image of what the heck happened on D2, which is loaded with a lot of weird moves between Brain, Ghug, and HB that need to be understood better.

[worcej]

@worcej

Do you not think that it's weird that it took the scum that we know of so long to actually vote Bona, that none of them made an active case to try and get him killed, and that the other scum member not only refused to vote him but refused the chance to tie it between ghug and Bona despite having apparently tried to tie it once already? And if Bona is town, why was HB trying to tie instead of just voting Bona?

Worcej is voting for Bona, though, right?
So surely if you are right, we flip scum, and if Worcej is right, we learn something. No?

Wut?

Am I unreasonably questioning him here or something?

FWIW, no you're not unreasonably questioning me.

We are seeing two different things from the VCA and I think we both believe Bona needs to be flipped.

[Fluminator]

Where is Fluminator?

I'm currently on a field by an oil rig waiting for a permit

[worcej]

Where is Fluminator?

I'm currently on a field by an oil rig waiting for a permit

Ooof, hats off to your for your career choice.

[Fluminator]

8 votes on bona wow.
I voted him originally when it was ghug vs. Bona so him being scum would be cool.
There were hoards of people pretending yo have a guilty scan on emc yet bunny (the most obvious fake) died so that looks good on EMC.

[Bonatogether]

##vote Bonatogether

[worcej]

Honestly, this is another pre-determined wagon in my eyes.

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[aarodactyl]

##vote Bonatogether

Why are you giving up there? ##end

[Bonatogether]

##vote Bonatogether

Why are you giving up there? ##end

Yall will benefit from seeing that I'm town.


Vote worcej tomorrow guys

[Bonatogether]

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[worcej]

##vote Bonatogether

Why are you giving up there? ##end

Yall will benefit from seeing that I'm town.


Vote worcej tomorrow guys

Because I'm connected to HB or HR?

[Bonatogether]

Why are you giving up there? ##end

Yall will benefit from seeing that I'm town.


Vote worcej tomorrow guys

Because I'm connected to HB or HR?

to HR

[worcej]

Yall will benefit from seeing that I'm town.


Vote worcej tomorrow guys

Because I'm connected to HB or HR?

to HR

How?

[Donny Dude]

##vote Bonatogether

Why are you giving up there? ##end

Yall will benefit from seeing that I'm town.


Vote worcej tomorrow guys

k now being suicidal about it is not the way to go.