MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

[worcej]

Bloody hell, look at me, conducting a sort of survey and reading back through old games to see if Damo is lying about something he said in this game.

Am I turning into Bozo?

Help.

Why did you even 'pull a bozo' anyways?

[Jamiet99uk]

Bloody hell, look at me, conducting a sort of survey and reading back through old games to see if Damo is lying about something he said in this game.

Am I turning into Bozo?

Help.

Why did you even 'pull a bozo' anyways?

If you mean the first part, I'm conflicted about whether to risk revealing this observation, in case the person in question is a PR. If you mean the second, because I figured Damo's assertion about his scum play would be easy enough to check. And it was, it took me five minutes.

[Jamiet99uk]

Ghug maybe. Damo no.

Bunny maybe.

Even though I just caught Damo lying?

It wasn't a lie as such. I was just guessing. And anyway did you check the context of that naked vote? I can't be bothered myself but the preceding posts may have made it non-naked.

I'll try again. As far as I know I do not make unjustified 'out of the blue' votes as scum (or probably town for that matter). Apart from very near EOD ofc.

Anyway Jamie I clearly am not scum. Ask emc.

How does EMC know your alignment for certain?

[damo666]

Even though I just caught Damo lying?

It wasn't a lie as such. I was just guessing. And anyway did you check the context of that naked vote? I can't be bothered myself but the preceding posts may have made it non-naked.

I'll try again. As far as I know I do not make unjustified 'out of the blue' votes as scum (or probably town for that matter). Apart from very near EOD ofc.

Anyway Jamie I clearly am not scum. Ask emc.

How does EMC know your alignment for certain?

He claims to be able to read me.

I'm being tongue in cheek Jamie. Isn't that obvious?

[President Eden]

Bloody hell, look at me, conducting a sort of survey and reading back through old games to see if Damo is lying about something he said in this game.

Am I turning into Bozo?

Help.

[looks back at his Bunny activity read]
[scratches head, looks at floor]

[Bonatogether]

This is so scummy that it just makes me think why he posted it if he is really scum.

People said this last game, and I was town then.

[Durga]

I will say I totally read bona wrong last game

[Jamiet99uk]

It wasn't a lie as such. I was just guessing. And anyway did you check the context of that naked vote? I can't be bothered myself but the preceding posts may have made it non-naked.

I'll try again. As far as I know I do not make unjustified 'out of the blue' votes as scum (or probably town for that matter). Apart from very near EOD ofc.

Anyway Jamie I clearly am not scum. Ask emc.

How does EMC know your alignment for certain?

He claims to be able to read me.

I'm being tongue in cheek Jamie. Isn't that obvious?

This is a game of deception and perception. Truth and untruth.

[damo666]

Mafia theory question:

When town should you obvtown or keep something up your sleeve metawise for future games when rolling scum?

[damo666]

How does EMC know your alignment for certain?

He claims to be able to read me.

I'm being tongue in cheek Jamie. Isn't that obvious?

This is a game of deception and perception. Truth and untruth.

Not false.

[Chaqa]

Mafia theory question:

When town should you obvtown or keep something up your sleeve metawise for future games when rolling scum?

There’s no such thing as obvtown-ing

[Durga]

Mafia theory question:

When town should you obvtown or keep something up your sleeve metawise for future games when rolling scum?

If you're playing for the purpose of other games and not the one you're in you should be day killed and banned

[rdrivera2005]

Bonatogether noob scum with Ghug and Damo?

Ghug maybe. Damo no.

Bunny maybe.

Even though I just caught Damo lying?

I think if Damo is scum he would have been more careful before making that statement. He was under no real pressure, why as scum he choose to tell a lie about something that can be easily disproved?

[rdrivera2005]

Mafia theory question:

When town should you obvtown or keep something up your sleeve metawise for future games when rolling scum?

I think it's pretty unfair to the other players to play to protect your scum meta instead of playing to your win condition (and being obvtown almost always improves your win condition). It's same of meta gaming on a Diplomacy game.

[rdrivera2005]

Mafia theory question:

When town should you obvtown or keep something up your sleeve metawise for future games when rolling scum?

If you're playing for the purpose of other games and not the one you're in you should be day killed and banned

Banned is a bit harsh, but day killed I agree.

[aarodactyl]

I don't really agree with the wagon on ghug. I'm getting scummy vibes from them, but they're basically the same scummy vibes I got from him last game (when he was town PR).

On the other hand, if people aren't trusting him, then there's not much incentive for me to finish collecting my thoughts tonight, since I doubt he'll have the energy to fulfill his promise of a tunnel on me.

This post is really weird. Why him tunneling you or not should influence your engagement with the game? Could you be so blatantly scummy?

He was trying to pressure me to spend all evening playing when we still have a day and a half in the phase.

[Durga]

Mafia theory question:

When town should you obvtown or keep something up your sleeve metawise for future games when rolling scum?

If you're playing for the purpose of other games and not the one you're in you should be day killed and banned

Banned is a bit harsh, but day killed I agree.

Ok there's no way to actually ban, but yeah

[Jamiet99uk]

Mafia theory question:

When town should you obvtown or keep something up your sleeve metawise for future games when rolling scum?

You should always play to your win condition in the game that you are currently in. If you are town and can get yourself town-sorted by the other town players, thus helping them narrow down their scum pools, you ought to do that.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Damo: Why did you ask that question?
What was the point of it?

[aarodactyl]

I don't really agree with the wagon on ghug. I'm getting scummy vibes from them, but they're basically the same scummy vibes I got from him last game (when he was town PR).

On the other hand, if people aren't trusting him, then there's not much incentive for me to finish collecting my thoughts tonight, since I doubt he'll have the energy to fulfill his promise of a tunnel on me.

This post is really weird. Why him tunneling you or not should influence your engagement with the game? Could you be so blatantly scummy?

He was trying to pressure me to spend all evening playing when we still have a day and a half in the phase.

Also for context, Ghug spent over a week tunneling on me last game (I was town) and it was incredibly unpleasant. I’d rather not have that this game as well