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Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

#7001 Post by Hellenic Riot » Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:42 am

aarodactyl wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:41 am
ghug wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:38 am
aarodactyl wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:31 am


So essentially, Durga likely knows the priest, but of course shouldn't tell us. However, Durga was never going to learn anything last night anyways.

So the new info we have is that there's probably not a roleblocker, and that we have a priest. Also mafia used up their assassination when they didn't have to.

So we're killing Jamie today, and then durga will die EOD and mafia will likely kill Tom. Even though Tom will probably get last rites, if we assume they're dead (since it doesn't really matter for number that they get the extra day phase), we'll be at 14 total players with 3 mafia. That means we have 4 miskills lefts? Unless we get a 5th if priest stays in and gets a lucky save after the 4th miskill?
Why would she necessarily know who the priest is?

The priest helped us last night in getting us a track (though I suspect Vecna may be right that she was reaction testing; why he'd say as much or out his PR reads I don't understand). The priest might help us marginally in giving us access to players for an extra day and slightly better numbers for a day, but when it would really help us again is MILO or KILO, when it might buy us an extra day, or at least prevents the scrim from outing themselves by voting together.

Vecna, are you becoming brainbomb?
In hindsight, it was probably reaction testing. But if she saw someone that wasn't jamie, it was probably the priest.
Why are you assuming she saw anything at all, though? All she said was that she wasn't RB'd - Hardly suggesting she had another guilty

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#7002 Post by aarodactyl » Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:44 am

ghug wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:42 am
aarodactyl wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:41 am
ghug wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:38 am


Why would she necessarily know who the priest is?

The priest helped us last night in getting us a track (though I suspect Vecna may be right that she was reaction testing; why he'd say as much or out his PR reads I don't understand). The priest might help us marginally in giving us access to players for an extra day and slightly better numbers for a day, but when it would really help us again is MILO or KILO, when it might buy us an extra day, or at least prevents the scrim from outing themselves by voting together.

Vecna, are you becoming brainbomb?
In hindsight, it was probably reaction testing. But if she saw someone that wasn't jamie, it was probably the priest.
But it's much more likely she tracked a random person not visiting than that she successfully hit the priest.
My impression is that if she's roleblocked, she gets the same result as if the person she's visiting didn't preform an action. So if she know she wasn't roleblocked, it means she saw someone do a visit. However, if she was reaction testing, we don't know anything.

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Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

#7003 Post by Vecna » Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:44 am

ghug wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:38 am
aarodactyl wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:31 am
Fluminator wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:19 am
So if the assassin kill isn't trackable, then they clearly had Jamiet do the normal nightkill, so there was nothing new durga could have captured other than the priest.
So essentially, Durga likely knows the priest, but of course shouldn't tell us. However, Durga was never going to learn anything last night anyways.

So the new info we have is that there's probably not a roleblocker, and that we have a priest. Also mafia used up their assassination when they didn't have to.

So we're killing Jamie today, and then durga will die EOD and mafia will likely kill Tom. Even though Tom will probably get last rites, if we assume they're dead (since it doesn't really matter for number that they get the extra day phase), we'll be at 14 total players with 3 mafia. That means we have 4 miskills lefts? Unless we get a 5th if priest stays in and gets a lucky save after the 4th miskill?
Why would she necessarily know who the priest is?

The priest helped us last night in getting us a track (though I suspect Vecna may be right that she was reaction testing; why he'd say as much or out his PR reads I don't understand). The priest might help us marginally in giving us access to players for an extra day and slightly better numbers for a day, but when it would really help us again is MILO or KILO, when it might buy us an extra day, or at least prevents the scrim from outing themselves by voting together.

Vecna, are you becoming brainbomb?
Im sure the scum had not noticed yet that Bozo is playing a timid and under the radar game, Ghug.

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#7004 Post by Vecna » Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:48 am

aarodactyl wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:44 am
ghug wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:42 am
aarodactyl wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:41 am


In hindsight, it was probably reaction testing. But if she saw someone that wasn't jamie, it was probably the priest.
But it's much more likely she tracked a random person not visiting than that she successfully hit the priest.
My impression is that if she's roleblocked, she gets the same result as if the person she's visiting didn't preform an action. So if she know she wasn't roleblocked, it means she saw someone do a visit. However, if she was reaction testing, we don't know anything.
theres diffirent outputs for no result and cancelled. Lucky for us, because any result will then be usefull

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#7005 Post by Fluminator » Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:48 am

This setup is so confusing tbh.

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#7006 Post by Chaqa » Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:49 am

##Vote Jamiet

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#7007 Post by Chaqa » Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:50 am

I just spent like 3 hours on the phone with the ISP and troubleshooting just to figure out the modem has a bad ethernet port.

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#7008 Post by aarodactyl » Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:52 am

Vecna wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:48 am
aarodactyl wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:44 am
ghug wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:42 am


But it's much more likely she tracked a random person not visiting than that she successfully hit the priest.
My impression is that if she's roleblocked, she gets the same result as if the person she's visiting didn't preform an action. So if she know she wasn't roleblocked, it means she saw someone do a visit. However, if she was reaction testing, we don't know anything.
theres diffirent outputs for no result and cancelled. Lucky for us, because any result will then be usefull
Huh. I guess rule of three is correct and this was the third time I'm wrong about the setup in a row. For some reason I thought the tracker's action got cancelled if they got no results. that's not true, so you're right. Durga probably knows nothing about roles, but didn't have anything good to learn anyways.

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#7009 Post by Vecna » Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:56 am

learning that someone is not the roleblocker could still prove useful in the future
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#7010 Post by Hellenic Riot » Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:10 am

Vecna wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:56 am
learning that someone is not the roleblocker could still prove useful in the future
Indeed, it's nice to direct the scum kill for them after Tom dies tonight

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#7011 Post by ghug » Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:37 am

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:10 am
Vecna wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:56 am
learning that someone is not the roleblocker could still prove useful in the future
Indeed, it's nice to direct the scum kill for them after Tom dies tonight
Meaning you don't want townclears?

What is Vecna even saying?

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#7012 Post by aarodactyl » Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:38 am

ghug wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:37 am
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:10 am
Vecna wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:56 am
learning that someone is not the roleblocker could still prove useful in the future
Indeed, it's nice to direct the scum kill for them after Tom dies tonight
Meaning you don't want townclears?

What is Vecna even saying?
I'm confused too. It's not even a townclear.

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#7013 Post by Hellenic Riot » Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:40 am

ghug wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:37 am
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:10 am
Vecna wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:56 am
learning that someone is not the roleblocker could still prove useful in the future
Indeed, it's nice to direct the scum kill for them after Tom dies tonight
Meaning you don't want townclears?

What is Vecna even saying?
Meaning that they'll probably just die the night after Tom

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#7014 Post by Yoyoyozo » Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:44 am

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:40 am
ghug wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:37 am
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:10 am


Indeed, it's nice to direct the scum kill for them after Tom dies tonight
Meaning you don't want townclears?

What is Vecna even saying?
Meaning that they'll probably just die the night after Tom
How is proving someone isn’t the roleblocker town clear them? There might not even be one lmao

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#7015 Post by aarodactyl » Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:46 am

Yoyoyozo wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:44 am
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:40 am
ghug wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:37 am


Meaning you don't want townclears?

What is Vecna even saying?
Meaning that they'll probably just die the night after Tom
How is proving someone isn’t the roleblocker town clear them? There might not even be one lmao
yeah, this is all a mess. All it's going to do is tell mafia who isn't priest.

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#7016 Post by ghug » Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:48 am

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:40 am
ghug wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:37 am
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:10 am


Indeed, it's nice to direct the scum kill for them after Tom dies tonight
Meaning you don't want townclears?

What is Vecna even saying?
Meaning that they'll probably just die the night after Tom
But that's good because it means they're killing someone Durga happened to watch, probably fairly scumread, instead of someone thru want to kill for their own reasons?

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#7017 Post by aarodactyl » Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:49 am

ghug wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:48 am
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:40 am
ghug wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:37 am


Meaning you don't want townclears?

What is Vecna even saying?
Meaning that they'll probably just die the night after Tom
But that's good because it means they're killing someone Durga happened to watch, probably fairly scumread, instead of someone thru want to kill for their own reasons?
Is narrowing down a hypothetical roleblocker good enough for town that it's worth narrowing down priest for mafia?

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#7018 Post by ghug » Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:54 am

aarodactyl wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:49 am
ghug wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:48 am
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:40 am

Meaning that they'll probably just die the night after Tom
But that's good because it means they're killing someone Durga happened to watch, probably fairly scumread, instead of someone thru want to kill for their own reasons?
Is narrowing down a hypothetical roleblocker good enough for town that it's worth narrowing down priest for mafia?
I think so, yes.

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#7019 Post by ghug » Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:54 am

ghug wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:54 am
aarodactyl wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:49 am
ghug wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:48 am


But that's good because it means they're killing someone Durga happened to watch, probably fairly scumread, instead of someone thru want to kill for their own reasons?
Is narrowing down a hypothetical roleblocker good enough for town that it's worth narrowing down priest for mafia?
I think so, yes.
I still don't get how we're narrowing down a roleblocker though.

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#7020 Post by Vecna » Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:55 am

Yeah, aaro is correct actually, only a visit to someone else but durga is a relevant result.

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