M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

[Tom Bombadil]

Why doesn't anybody ever scumread me anymore?

I do. I just don’t want to deal with it yet.

[Fluminator]

I will likely be gone for almost all of friday.

In case I die in no particular order:
Susses
Worcej
Bunny
Prado
Vecna
Ghug (a few red flags, not enough to be a serious scumread, but just make sure you don't rule him out yet)

Probably town:
Kgray
HR
MoscowFleet
damo666 (weaker after the maniac push)
Chaqa lol
Durga (not as strong)

Neutral
Seth
Donny
Tom (his vote on summit was really well timed so probably more likely town)
flash
Bozo
Nanook
rdrivera
Maniac

Why ghug? I get Vecna, his iso is a bit shaky after the flip too, but I've become a lot less sure about ghug's alignment (previously scumread)

His behavior was actually pretty suspicious at eod. It's useful at getting info (that's how I play because I can get away with it usually without geting daykilled) but it also is something scum does. One of ghug's votes off summit wagon particularly made me tingly.

[BunnyGo]

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I’m going to miss EOD2 if we don’t end early. Not gonna sneak my phone during kol nidre.

What is the point of this post?

Letting you all know that speed wagoning me on D2 is antisemitic.

[Maniac]

Why doesn't anybody ever scumread me anymore?

I'm pretty

[Maniac]

Why doesn't anybody ever scumread me anymore?

I'm pretty

Hit return too early...

I'm pretty sure I did/do.

[Tom Bombadil]

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I’m going to miss EOD2 if we don’t end early. Not gonna sneak my phone during kol nidre.

What is the point of this post?

Letting you all know that speed wagoning me on D2 is antisemitic.

Lol

[Fluminator]

I’m really sad you all think so little of my scum play.

I will grant you your scumplay has really gone downhill from last game I saw if you are indeed scum.

[Fluminator]

Why doesn't anybody ever scumread me anymore?

lol

[worcej]

I think flash is probably town as well.

He anchored on summit because of a joke vote. That would have been really easy to move since nobody would really question a change since the intially vote had little basis.

I think this too.

The scum option seems unlikely: that he was gone long enough that, at the point summit was a legit wagon, he couldn't move his vote without drawing immediate suspicion.

[worcej]

Also, people seem to be really overlooking Bunny's weird reactions when the Summit wagon first appeared.

What’s with the summit wagon? Should we hammer it?

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I don’t understand the summit wagon at all. ##vote Donny ##end

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Considering this it seems odd BunnyGo was the one player summit decided to scum read and vote for (he voted for Maniac later but said he did not scum read him).

WIFOM moment honestly.

Do you think summit has the potential to try to make his scum team look better?

If I recall correctly, last time he was scum he said this would be what he would do if caught.

[Maniac]

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I’m going to miss EOD2 if we don’t end early. Not gonna sneak my phone during kol nidre.

What is the point of this post?

Letting you all know that speed wagoning me on D2 is antisemitic.

I don't think any of the Warner Bros Characters we're playing are Jewish. In fact I don't know of any Warner Bros Characters that are Jewish. A few Catholics, but no Jews.

[worcej]

I’m really sad you all think so little of my scum play.

I think you did just enough to avoid suspicion at a quick glance.

But a detailed look through reveals potential distancing.

[worcej]

worcej also prime suspect.

no mention of summit early at all, even when summit was leading wagon throughout. THen started pushing Nanook wagon pretty hard for sketch reasons, and Nanook is a likely miskill target. Then hopped on damo for some reason (even though he would later shade summit) before trying to get Nanook going again. Shaded summit at the same time as this second push on Nanook - which was out of the blue, which now seems like a total hedge, yet never voted summit.

Never voted Maniac though, which is strange if Maniac is town.

More of notes - people who either didn't or barely did engage with summit:

My TL;DR summary is in the ( )'s for each one

1. worcej (I didn't scum read him - his lack of doing anything wasn't flagging my attention like the obviously scummy actions)
2. Bunny (only comments really were he OMGUS'ed and then moved to him once the CC was made)
3. Vecna (was skeptical he was scum at all and wasn't too interested in the vote and ultimately sheeps onto it because it was inevitable)
4. Nanook (no actual game interaction, like myself)
5. Donny (same situation as Nanook - no real interaction and just voted him after the CC)
6. Maniac (No game comments and scum leans him in final reads list)
7. Rdr (a couple 'I would rather X than X' posts and no real read on summit)
8. Seth (pointed the kgray and Flum had good reasoning, then in last 11 minutes seems to believe he is scum. Very little interaction with the game overall honestly)

People who came on strong on or against summit - this is intended as NAI, so don't assume a read from it:

1. Flum (called summit scum based on a weak response regarding his online status. I didn't take this as sarcasm when I read it. Happened with ~31 hours left of phase)
2. kgray (right around Flum's read made her read based on recent scum game)
3. TrPrado (very against the case for summit with 21 hours left in the phase and pokes at the scum reads of him until finally voting him after the CC)
4. Flash (have to put here - his vote was a joke but it stuck)

You should probably go reread my iso

I guess I should be flattered that all the dodgy people are coming out of the woodworks and trying to paint my engagement in a totally different way than it actually happened.

Well then, what's your opinion on your play then?

[worcej]

Why doesn't anybody ever scumread me anymore?

Do something scummy?

[worcej]

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I’m going to miss EOD2 if we don’t end early. Not gonna sneak my phone during kol nidre.

What is the point of this post?

Letting you all know that speed wagoning me on D2 is antisemitic.

Joke posts like these make me feel harassed and if my harassment training taught me one thing, it doesn't matter how or who - if I feel harassed then that's all that matters.

#corporateAmerica...

[Tom Bombadil]

Worcej and ghug wagons tomorrow would make for an exciting day.

[Durga]

I’m really sad you all think so little of my scum play.

Really I just s**k as Town.

I do not remember you being this self depricating before

[Durga]

Worcej and ghug wagons tomorrow would make for an exciting day.

Count me in for personal reasons

[TrPrado]

I deserve to be on the chopping block for tomorrow, I gave some weird defenses of summit throughout the day and only voted for him after the claim. Tom and HR look really good right now and I'm less certain of damo being scum, wavering on flash though. I think seth's posts were really weird.

Some good pre-emptive defence going on here - What makes Tom in particular look so good? Kgray & I were the most consistent drivers on that wagon, so crediting Tom and not Kgray seems like a pretty intereting take here

You and Tom looked good BECAUSE of the flip, kgray looked town regardless

[bozotheclown]

Also, people seem to be really overlooking Bunny's weird reactions when the Summit wagon first appeared.


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Considering this it seems odd BunnyGo was the one player summit decided to scum read and vote for (he voted for Maniac later but said he did not scum read him).

WIFOM moment honestly.

Do you think summit has the potential to try to make his scum team look better?

If I recall correctly, last time he was scum he said this would be what he would do if caught.

I think summit would know he could not make his scum team look better, which is why I thought it was unlikely he would include them in his only 2 reads, one town read and one scum read.