M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros

[TheMadMonarch]

The kgray/summit scum theory would mean HR, HB, and probably even bo_sox are town. That leaves Jamie, rdrivera, and Macca. I think Macca is probably town. kgray could have been bussing either rdrivera or Jamie D1. Jamie never seemed to care much about kgray voting for him, so maybe kgray/summit/Jamie.

Why do you townread Macca?

What do you make of Macca having ZERO scumreads today?

I don't have ZERO, as you would lead them to believe, I have you.

[Jamiet99uk]

The kgray/summit scum theory would mean HR, HB, and probably even bo_sox are town. That leaves Jamie, rdrivera, and Macca. I think Macca is probably town. kgray could have been bussing either rdrivera or Jamie D1. Jamie never seemed to care much about kgray voting for him, so maybe kgray/summit/Jamie.

Why do you townread Macca?

What do you make of Macca having ZERO scumreads today?

I don't have ZERO, as you would lead them to believe, I have you.

Vote for me.

[TheMadMonarch]

You apparently have no scumreads, Macca?

Who. Do. You. Think. Is. Scum?

You.

No-one is sum-leaning too much, but the furthest over the line is you. I would have thought that were evident in the above post.

And to be honest, summit's looking a little weird now (but that could just be that I'm scared because he's voting for me).

No it was not "obvious". Saying I have "weird vibes" is not the same as declaring me a scumread.

Ok you have exactly 1.5 scumreads.

Vote for me.

Answering this question, I re-wrote answers from the earlier read, but it appears that in that one that I neglected to mention HR and HB.

As I've stated, I'm having a legitimate problem telling them apart (especially when they're always abbreviated), but I don't trust either.

I would, in fact, srumread them more then you.

[Jamiet99uk]

Come on Macca, let's dance.

[Jamiet99uk]

Boom, Macca's gone from 1.5 scumreads to 3.5. Interesting.

[TheMadMonarch]

Come on Macca, let's dance.

Neither my stamina nor dexterity are things to marvel at. I love to have a go, but I believe I would lose.

[TheMadMonarch]

Boom, Macca's gone from 1.5 scumreads to 3.5. Interesting.

I've talked about those two (mostly HR) before, and my thoughts about them. Had you been paying attention, you may have seen me post about it and know that this should not be a surprise.

(I'm not entirely sure that last sentence makes sense)

[Jamiet99uk]

Boom, Macca's gone from 1.5 scumreads to 3.5. Interesting.

I've talked about those two (mostly HR) before, and my thoughts about them. Had you been paying attention, you may have seen me post about it and know that this should not be a surprise.

(I'm not entirely sure that last sentence makes sense)

You did talk about them before, yes. But people's reads change. Today when I asked your reads, you didn't list HR and HB as scumreads, so it may be natural for me to assume that you no longer scumread them.

I see now you are saying that you merely accidentally omitted them. Ok, I could see that being plausible.

##UNVOTE for a moment

[Jamiet99uk]

I shall return to ##VOTE HAMILTON BRIAN

[TheMadMonarch]

Boom, Macca's gone from 1.5 scumreads to 3.5. Interesting.

I've talked about those two (mostly HR) before, and my thoughts about them. Had you been paying attention, you may have seen me post about it and know that this should not be a surprise.

(I'm not entirely sure that last sentence makes sense)

You did talk about them before, yes. But people's reads change. Today when I asked your reads, you didn't list HR and HB as scumreads, so it may be natural for me to assume that you no longer scumread them.

I see now you are saying that you merely accidentally omitted them. Ok, I could see that being plausible.

##UNVOTE for a moment

Why thank you.

[TheMadMonarch]

Why do you townread Macca?

What do you make of Macca having ZERO scumreads today?

I don't have ZERO, as you would lead them to believe, I have you.

Vote for me.

I assume this statement no longer stands?

[Jamiet99uk]

I don't have ZERO, as you would lead them to believe, I have you.

Vote for me.

I assume this statement no longer stands?

You should vote for your strongest scumread.

Whoever that is, vote for them. It sounds like you're saying that would be Hellenic Riot or Hamilton Brian? (See I'm using their names longhand to avoid confusion).

But if you still scumread me, you'd be entitled to vote for me also.

[bo_sox48]

Bozo, you don’t have me entirely convinced but I just want to say you really should have led with the investigative track you’re on now as opposed to whatever it was you were doing earlier. You’re asking much better questions.

I am convinced on rdrivera and could vote him today over HB.

[TheMadMonarch]

In a close race between HR and HB, I will do as such
##VOTE HB

I will now be turning in. Best of luck!

[kgray]

Feeling pretty good about damo and jamie. macca not so much.

##vote macca

This post probably means Jamie is town if summit is mafia. That would mean kgray/summit/rdrivera is the most likely scum team if kgray changed her mind about voting for summit D2 because they are both mafia.

I don't see how this makes Jamie town if summit is mafia. Why do you think scum!summit would be unlikely to list a partner as a townread?

[kgray]

This idea isn't bad, but I doubt we get six votes before one scum can cast a vote on the Mafia QT.

By the way, scum team is Bo, Damo and who else?

Is this whole post a joke? You can't really think the scumteam includes Bo and Damo while also pointing out the obvious flaw in Jamie's plan but still calling it "good"?

Here is where the kgray/rdrivera D1 mutual voting began. It probably should be obvious enough that at least the second part of rdrivera's post was a joke that kgray should not need to ask.

It was very obvious that the second part of the post was a joke. That's why I asked if the whole post was a joke. The first sentence looked sincere to me.

[kgray]

My scumpool right now:

bozotheclown
Hamilton Brian
Macca573
summit_fever

Why is bozo in your scumpool?

I've made my suspicions of Bozo very clear today. Aren't you reading my posts?

I am, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but the two main reasons you gave are his inactivity prior to today, which I agree is scummy from bozo, and his focus on "odd interactions" between you and HB. I do agree with him that if HB is scum he could implicate you through no fault of your own, but I also think most of HB's interactions can be characterized as odd so I see your point.

But I wanted to discuss bozo further because although D3 so far is more along the lines of what I was expecting from town!bozo, I can't get over the fact that he spent all of D2 talking about BP and mafia kills. At EOD he was online and brought up the same argument he'd been having with HR the whole phase but otherwise didn't contribute at all. Now he's going carefully through everyone else's votes and it's sort of convenient that we can't do the same with his. I'm trying to decide if this is alignment indicative.

[kgray]

I looked into the discussion of Vecna's BP claim, and it seems like kgray, summit, and rdrivera were all aware of the claim fairly early. kgray was questioning players for not seeing the claim, rdrivera called it obvious without the link, and summit was the first to directly state Vecna had claimed. Jamie and HR said they missed the claim because they do not open links, bo_sox said he thought it was easy to miss, HB missed the claim, and I am not sure if Macca is aware of the claim. I also missed the claim because I typically do not open links, and I had read Vecna's post about getting something from the mods without thinking the link was going to be something important, I think it just sounded like a joke. With the mafia day chat, if one scum saw the claim they all would know, and the mafia also knew they had hit Vecna, so they would be looking for Vecna to claim, so I think this supports the possibility of a kgray/summit/rdrivera scum team.

Why scum would be looking for Vecna to claim as they already knew he is BP? Also, don't you believe scum is more likely to avoid looking like they already know Vecna is BP? At least one?

Okay rivera, now you can be my spokesperson.

[rdrivera2005]

Bozo, you don’t have me entirely convinced but I just want to say you really should have led with the investigative track you’re on now as opposed to whatever it was you were doing earlier. You’re asking much better questions.

I am convinced on rdrivera and could vote him today over HB.

You are convinced that I am scum with summit and Kgray? Did you really bought that Bozo convoluted thinking?

Or if you have an own reason to scumread me state it.

[Jamiet99uk]

Why is bozo in your scumpool?

I've made my suspicions of Bozo very clear today. Aren't you reading my posts?

I am, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but the two main reasons you gave are his inactivity prior to today, which I agree is scummy from bozo, and his focus on "odd interactions" between you and HB. I do agree with him that if HB is scum he could implicate you through no fault of your own, but I also think most of HB's interactions can be characterized as odd so I see your point.

But I wanted to discuss bozo further because although D3 so far is more along the lines of what I was expecting from town!bozo, I can't get over the fact that he spent all of D2 talking about BP and mafia kills. At EOD he was online and brought up the same argument he'd been having with HR the whole phase but otherwise didn't contribute at all. Now he's going carefully through everyone else's votes and it's sort of convenient that we can't do the same with his. I'm trying to decide if this is alignment indicative.

Those are my main reasons, yes. The points you make are valid too.

I am also concerned that Bozo is proposing a lot of speculative scum pairings implicating the majority of the remaining players in his "x could be scum with y" manner, but without clearly calling out his top scumreads or pushing anyone really hard.