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Re: wD Mafia Master Post

#461 Post by BunnyGo » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:00 am

damo666 wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:19 pm
No restrictions.

If each side want to go down a stalemate path the result is ....

guess what?

Stalemate.

Stalemate => draw or no result or whatever you want to call it.

A threewise repetition seems a reasonable measure of both sides willing to accept stalemate.

Is there any reason this cannot be adopted as a standard rule or why this would not be a particularly unwanted rule. Seems harmless enough.
Counterpoint: Zugzwang is an important part of games. And taking it away from town as a tool is handing scum another tool.

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#462 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:01 am

What is a zugwang?

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#463 Post by damo666 » Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:16 am

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:01 am
What is a zugwang?
Missing the second z.

A situation where the next to move will be disadvantaged to do so whatever move they make.

Benny's point is valid but my counter to his counter would be that not implementing a stalemate rule is adding to town's armoury.

Anyone have a clue as to town/scum win ratio over all webdip games?
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#464 Post by rdrivera2005 » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:35 pm

I agree with the stalemate rule. After 3 (or 2) days with no-lynch and no-kill it's a tie.
This gives a tool for the losing side to play with. If you think you can win make the first move, otherwise draw.

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#465 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:02 pm

The stalemate rule was, in practice, sufficient to motivate the last Mini Game to proceed to an end state.

Therefore, I support the addition of a rule saying games end in a draw if such a stalemate is reached.

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Re: wD Mafia Master Post

#466 Post by brainbomb » Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:04 am

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ost3975466


Mafiauniverse is debating removal of the term "lynch" from allowed game related posts, and from the game itself entirely.
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#467 Post by brainbomb » Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:15 am

I personally never understood why lynching the mafia was even a thing. it never made sense. like we catch al capone and hang him. na, theyd gun him down.

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#468 Post by Chaqa » Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:19 am

Hmm. I was always a bit uncomfortable with the term.

"has been hanged" could work, or executed.

leave it up to flavor, maybe

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#469 Post by brainbomb » Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:22 am

I know theres a bill in congress right now and were at a really crazy crossroads where its probably in super poor taste to be writing

brainbomb has been lynched

when

brainbomb has been eliminated

is just as effective

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#470 Post by BunnyGo » Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:31 am

Chaqa wrote:
Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:19 am
Hmm. I was always a bit uncomfortable with the term.

"has been hanged" could work, or executed.

leave it up to flavor, maybe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdExsAQuCQA
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#471 Post by worcej » Mon Jun 08, 2020 2:27 pm

FWIW, ‘has died’ works just fine as well.

I would be totally fine removing the lynch concept from our games going forward. My WP has given me the luxury of not being offended by the term and if we want to progress we all have to do what we can, even if it is something small like this.
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#472 Post by e.m.c^42 » Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:40 pm

I am fond of the phrasing, "assisted worldly departure"

So it would be, "x has departed us with assistance".

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#473 Post by Chaqa » Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:45 pm

You have a Wordpress, worc?

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#474 Post by worcej » Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:04 am

Chaqa wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:45 pm
You have a Wordpress, worc?
No, what's that?

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#475 Post by Chaqa » Tue Jun 09, 2020 3:55 am

worcej wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:04 am
Chaqa wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:45 pm
You have a Wordpress, worc?
No, what's that?
WP?

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Re: wD Mafia Master Post

#476 Post by worcej » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:24 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 3:55 am
worcej wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:04 am
Chaqa wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:45 pm
You have a Wordpress, worc?
No, what's that?
WP?
I was referring to my white privilege

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Re: wD Mafia Master Post

#477 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:02 am

An interesting and highly topical question, thank you Brainbomb for raising it here. I had noticed the debate at MafiaUniverse and wondered if we should also be talking about it.

I think that there is merit in removing the term "lynch" from the official rules posts and the language used by the GM, but at the same time, not sanctioning players who continue to use the term, for now at least, since it is something people are used to...

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Re: wD Mafia Master Post

#478 Post by rdrivera2005 » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:37 am

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:02 am
An interesting and highly topical question, thank you Brainbomb for raising it here. I had noticed the debate at MafiaUniverse and wondered if we should also be talking about it.

I think that there is merit in removing the term "lynch" from the official rules posts and the language used by the GM, but at the same time, not sanctioning players who continue to use the term, for now at least, since it is something people are used to...
But we will need another word to represent the elimination by voting as kill is usually used to refer to the Mafia NK.

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Re: wD Mafia Master Post

#479 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:40 am

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:37 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:02 am
An interesting and highly topical question, thank you Brainbomb for raising it here. I had noticed the debate at MafiaUniverse and wondered if we should also be talking about it.

I think that there is merit in removing the term "lynch" from the official rules posts and the language used by the GM, but at the same time, not sanctioning players who continue to use the term, for now at least, since it is something people are used to...
But we will need another word to represent the elimination by voting as kill is usually used to refer to the Mafia NK.
How about the word you just used? I mean, "elimination" ?

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Re: wD Mafia Master Post

#480 Post by damo666 » Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:57 am

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:40 am
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:37 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:02 am
An interesting and highly topical question, thank you Brainbomb for raising it here. I had noticed the debate at MafiaUniverse and wondered if we should also be talking about it.

I think that there is merit in removing the term "lynch" from the official rules posts and the language used by the GM, but at the same time, not sanctioning players who continue to use the term, for now at least, since it is something people are used to...
But we will need another word to represent the elimination by voting as kill is usually used to refer to the Mafia NK.
How about the word you just used? I mean, "elimination" ?
"Voted out"

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