M1009 [HIDDEN]

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#581 Post by Tom Bombadil » Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:52 am

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:46 am
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:41 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:38 am


You think his vote looks good?

You're pleased he voted for you?

Is he bussing you with your approval?
Yes, I can townread someone for their actions even if they voted me. Do you scumread everyone who votes you?
No, but I'd be very suspicious of someone who votes me for no better reason than to "make EoD interesting", and I think it's INTERESTING that you react in the way you do.
If you don’t have two close wagons D1 you are doing something wrong. I can appreciate that rdrivera wanted to force people to make a decision between Neph and myself.

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#582 Post by Tom Bombadil » Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:55 am

It’ll be interesting to see who scum kills since xorx is scum and I’m lynchable.

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#583 Post by rdrivera2005 » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:19 am

Tom Bombadil wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:55 am
It’ll be interesting to see who scum kills since xorx is scum and I’m lynchable.
If I am the NK then Worcej is scum, lol.

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#584 Post by bozotheclown » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:37 am

xorxes wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:33 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:27 pm
worcej wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:14 pm
You think I am not capable of planting a slip to see who is paying attention?
I am sure you are capable of that, but this would a strange way to do it. The "slip" was in post one, but not until it was qualified by post 2.
It was very weird. I can't make up my mind if it was scummy or not, but the explanation as a reaction test definitely looks like it was concocted after the fact.

Also, even if we grant it was a reaction test, what was the point? Apparently the result of me pointing it out was that it was NAI.
I agree that it is hard to believe this was intended as a reaction test, and I see no reason for town to be misleading about that.

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#585 Post by bozotheclown » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:44 am

worcej wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:16 pm
Tom and bozo both look like shit for this EOD imo. They both barely, if at all, shaded Neph before voting him. Tom looks even worse for pounding the 'I don't like the lynch' but voted for it ultimately.

Damo and Chaqa at least planted the seeds of not liking his play early in the day. If they are scum, at least they stuck to a script.
I thought Nephthys was the most likely to be scum among the top wagons, since there did not seem to be enough interest in lynching Chaqa.

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#586 Post by xorxes » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:48 am

In case I die tonight:

Tom-worcej-kakarroto with Jamiet as potential replacement.
Chaqa, mmm.
Flav and foodcoats seem ok.
Fairly confident in rivera, bozo, emc, damo.

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#587 Post by bozotheclown » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:56 am

Chaqa wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:03 pm
That Jamie/EMC thing is weird.

But this Bozo voting for me for not remembering someone I’ve had no interaction with in 3 years is even stranger. I don’t see why I would do that as scum, but it seems pretty normal for town!Bozo. Whatev.

Where’s Flavius?
Chaqa wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:08 am
I was up coughing until like 4 AM and I feel worse after minimal sleep.

I’m town reading Bozo and xorxes right now. They seem normal.

Feeling something a bit off from Jamie .

Need more on others

EMC, vote dammit
At first Chaqa seemed to suggest my reason for voting for him was suspicious, although he was hedging. By the second post I am one of his town reads, so it is possible he decided to try to pocket me instead (and xorxes as well).

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#588 Post by bozotheclown » Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:04 am

Tom Bombadil wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:39 pm
Bleh. Why rdr?

I don’t think Neph is scum.

##vote damo I suppose. He is null at least and it seems enough people townread emc so that isn’t going to happen
I find this somewhat suspicious, it gave him the option of moving to Nephthys later, and made damo another viable wagon.

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#589 Post by bozotheclown » Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:06 am

I would still go with Chaqa or worcej D2.

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#590 Post by Chaqa » Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:06 am

I requested a replacement FYI. I just about collapsed walking to the bathroom earlier and I'm going to stay in bed for the foreseeable future

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#591 Post by bozotheclown » Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:30 am

Chaqa wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:06 am
I requested a replacement FYI. I just about collapsed walking to the bathroom earlier and I'm going to stay in bed for the foreseeable future
I hope you feel better soon.

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#592 Post by FlaviusAetius » Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:23 am

xorxes wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:05 pm
Oh well. Sorry Neph.
What was the nepthy wagon even about I'm confused?

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#593 Post by FlaviusAetius » Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:26 am

worcej wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:28 pm
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:27 pm
worcej wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:16 pm
Tom and bozo both look like shit for this EOD imo. They both barely, if at all, shaded Neph before voting him. Tom looks even worse for pounding the 'I don't like the lynch' but voted for it ultimately.

Damo and Chaqa at least planted the seeds of not liking his play early in the day. If they are scum, at least they stuck to a script.
Where did I shade Neph? I viewed Neph as towny. I think the Tom is scummy because he was the other wagon is pretty lazy.
That's my point, over-defensive Tom.
You should be happy someone is defensive and actually caring about the game
Its like for you for someone to be mafia they shouldnt say anything

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#594 Post by FlaviusAetius » Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:26 am

to not be mafia they shouldnt say anything*

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#595 Post by FlaviusAetius » Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:27 am

worcej wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:32 pm
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:30 pm
Of course I’m defensive when you make shit up that’s not true
What's not true? I said you didn't like Neph's wagon but you voted for him and that is shit imo.

Even with you as the 2nd highest wagon, the votes were 6-3-etc without your vote. The argument you tried to save yourself is terrible since you were not even that close of a wagon.
This is a non-point, of course everyone is going to pile onto the wagon that is super ahead, no one wants a tie

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#596 Post by FlaviusAetius » Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:28 am

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:58 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:15 pm
So you all jumped on Neph for a reason I'm not totally caught up with, and lynched a Town Vanillan.

For shame.
I want EOD with two competing wagons (didn't really happen) and I wasn't scumreading Nepth.
What's wrong?

I do think you and Xorxes could be scum together another time.
No you dont want EoD with two competeing wagons that will be a complete failure, and wayyy too risky for a tie

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#597 Post by Tom Bombadil » Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:31 am

FlaviusAetius wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:28 am
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:58 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:15 pm
So you all jumped on Neph for a reason I'm not totally caught up with, and lynched a Town Vanillan.

For shame.
I want EOD with two competing wagons (didn't really happen) and I wasn't scumreading Nepth.
What's wrong?

I do think you and Xorxes could be scum together another time.
No you dont want EoD with two competeing wagons that will be a complete failure, and wayyy too risky for a tie
Lol. Wut? Competing wagons are how you force people to potentially protect scum.

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#598 Post by FlaviusAetius » Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:31 am

Kakarroto wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:11 pm
I'm sorry I couldn't be here sooner, work cut the access to free internet and blocked even on the lunch PC every homepage but a handful (which, sadly, webdip is not part of that). After I came home I read as fast as I could but came out too slow. Guess it's time to pick up the broken shards.

Looking at the votes, xorxes starting it, myself second at 10 hours, foodgoats voted around 9 hours ago, bozo went in as 4th 29 minutes before end. Then Chaqa at 8 mins, Tom and damo at 2 and 1 minute respectively.

xorxes started without a big reasoning, alright, it was 25 hours before EoD, fine, I guess.

mine came to make Nephthys participate more, (which started 1,5 hours before Eod) though I wasn't there.

food then voted 9 something hours before EoD including his reasons (was also thinking xorx might be scum, joined the wagon)

I don't like the Chaqa vote there, I really don't. It practically locked in a 5-3-3 situation, making it hard for votes to change close to EoD. Then again, it only looks bad when you do it intentionally, when you are aware of that situation and the consequences. Hrmph, still don't like it.

Tom and damo might've just tried to prevent a tie vote right before EoD, so yeah.

*reading reactions after my thought*
worcej wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:32 pm
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:30 pm
Of course I’m defensive when you make shit up that’s not true
What's not true? I said you didn't like Neph's wagon but you voted for him and that is shit imo.

Even with you as the 2nd highest wagon, the votes were 6-3-etc without your vote. The argument you tried to save yourself is terrible since you were not even that close of a wagon.
that's not absolutely correct, it was 5-3-3, making his change 6-3-2, after that damo made it 7-2-2. If you look at the thread, tom mistyped 2 minutes before EoD and then he seemingly noticed his mistake, so his intent wasn't at 6-3 but 5-3

I'm more unwell with the Chaqa vote than Tom's here
So basically Nepghtys wagon was started on nothing, and people piled on for nothing, this is why I told you NOT to vote for lurkers but no you decided that would be the best use of your vote
Nepthys barely talked, no one was defending him, this was the easiest wagon for people to fall into, and also the absolute and utter silliest

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#599 Post by FlaviusAetius » Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:32 am

Tom Bombadil wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:31 am
FlaviusAetius wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:28 am
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:58 pm


I want EOD with two competing wagons (didn't really happen) and I wasn't scumreading Nepth.
What's wrong?

I do think you and Xorxes could be scum together another time.
No you dont want EoD with two competeing wagons that will be a complete failure, and wayyy too risky for a tie
Lol. Wut? Competing wagons are how you force people to potentially protect scum.
Thats a good point, but then couldnt scum also change and influence the wagon? Seems wayyy too risky, as you said wagons can change quickly, so why have the risk? Decide things IMO before EoD
(im not against competeing wagons, Im against competeing wagons at EOD)

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#600 Post by FlaviusAetius » Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:34 am

Kakarroto wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:34 am
I don't know why, maybe I'm wrong, but when I wrote the occurences of the votes on Nephthys down, Chaqa's vote there and then just felt ... wrong. It feels like locking in everyone in their votes, locking Neph to hang, since who would upset that voting count to cause chaos so close EoD. We were 13 at the time, 5 were more than a third of player and only if both second and third wagon combined vote for another that situation would've been broken.

I need to think more about it, later. I'm currently feeling too much, looking at my post. Maybe I'm seeing ghosts. Maybe I'm on to something. I need sleep.
so basically you know nothing so you'll commit to nothing, cmon dude take a stand

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