MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#1481 Post by ND » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:19 pm

There were two notable instances he made which really makes me strongly believe that Chaqa is scum.

1) "I’m always a VT, though. Seriously. Our of the 35ish games I’ve played. I think I’ve been aVt in like 30 or then or more" (Chaqa, 18)

This REALLY caught my eye. Here, we can see that Chaqa for a moment in his cockyiness let the facade drop. He is trying to seed and soft this notion. He is always a "VT". Why, the need to state this unless you are trying to plant an idea?

2) "Based on ND’s track record, this means I’m guaranteed town." (Chaqa, 48)

He spent a lot of time trying to seed the idea I was wrong about last game. That's part of his strategy. Discredit. He probably viewed me as the most likely person to catch him. However, anyone with a functioning browser can easily review the previous game. Still, if you look at his history this game you will see he spent a lot of time belittling me and capped it off with this.

This is not a huge amount of things to go on and on the surface, sure, he has been posting A LOT. Just because you post A LOT doesn't make you town though. A lot of what he has done is just regurgitate information already stated. Both of these instances lead me to believe that he set up a notion he is VT, claimed it, softed it and is now running with it. A lot of my reads with longstanding players is based on meta and my interactions with them. That's how I got Darg so easily last game. That's how we will get Chaqa this game.

I stand by it. Chaqa is absolute scum (and a moron)

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#1482 Post by BunnyGo » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:20 pm

worcej wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:34 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:28 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:21 am
OK! I have a hypothesis about the reavers with a confirmed hit on a candidate. Could everyone who has claimed PR please post an @ symbol?

Thank you!

And yes...maybe you'll find my reaver candidate too...he's posted it just once, shortly before the announcement, and by accident as it was in a quote.
By my check - Rivera, Tom, and worcej all have only made one post with an '@' in it, and all shortly before/around the press violation - so these three would be the ones I'd really like to see it from.
@Chaqa - I am not a Reaver...

@Bunny - satisfied?
It’s less accusations and more code breaking hypothesis testing. I want to figure out how to trigger a violation. My hypotheses are not based on my player reads at all, they are purely mechanical code breaking.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#1483 Post by Tom Bombadil » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:21 pm

I’ll be back later. I don’t want to spew unpleasant things

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#1484 Post by BunnyGo » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:21 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:41 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:36 pm
No rush on this - based on how Reaver's work, it should stay effective, but it would help to clear people as we go.
How, exactly, do the Reavers work?
No idea! Isn’t that fun!

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#1485 Post by Chaqa » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:22 pm

Tom Bombadil wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:18 pm
Ffs peter. Jesus Christ.

You know why mass claims work. Because we could have towncleared ourselves without you fucking shooting me and wasting your shot and wasting my vest
Silver lining... two town clears

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#1486 Post by ND » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:22 pm

Wait, that's the announcement? A shot rings out?

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#1487 Post by ND » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:22 pm

oh i see

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#1488 Post by Tom Bombadil » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:22 pm

ND wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:22 pm
Wait, that's the announcement? A shot rings out?
Peter shot me. I am first mate and had a bulletproof vest

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#1489 Post by BunnyGo » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:23 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:52 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:45 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:41 pm


How, exactly, do the Reavers work?
We had a series of GM calls on the subject awhile back, but basically they have a pre-defined set of press rules to follow, that don't change, and are the same for all Reavers. There may or may not be multiple levels of violations, we're unsure.
You mis-spelled "no idea"... No idea if they depend on the state of the forum. No idea if they depend on the wagons in play. No idea if they depend on what other players are posting.
Very true! I did acknowledge this in my posts about how I’m trying to hunt. Chaq got overly excited.

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#1490 Post by BunnyGo » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:25 pm

xorxes wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:32 pm
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:16 pm
Why do you want me to claim? It seems unwise before EON since it helps scum narrow down best PRs to hunt. I think massclaim makes sense but after NK and before lynch since that’s when we want more information. Granted peter shooting now does throw a monkey wrench into things
If peter shoots the Reaver, that's the end of the Reavers, is that correct?
Yes

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#1491 Post by Foxcastle » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:25 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:21 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:41 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:36 pm
No rush on this - based on how Reaver's work, it should stay effective, but it would help to clear people as we go.
How, exactly, do the Reavers work?
No idea! Isn’t that fun!
There are lots of fun code breaking, puzzle solving, crypto-cracking games to play, but this is not one of them! This is a scum-hunting game.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#1492 Post by ND » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:26 pm

well a shot wasted but at least you are clear Tom.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#1493 Post by BunnyGo » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:26 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:34 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:27 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:15 pm


When I mentioned that there were some people here whose time is best spent on menial tasks, I did not mean you :cry:
I think it will be more telling who doesn't participate.
Again—and I know I'm beating a dead horse here—we have no idea if the rules would even be broken for posting the exact same post. So it's very possible that some slacker player who doesn't care won't post, and the Reaver knows he can repost everything without triggering a violation.
Yup. We’d learn about the reaver rules if that happens. But I agree it disrupts the thread.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#1494 Post by Foxcastle » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:27 pm

BunnyGo: I've already had my complains out with Chaqa, so no need for us to have a separate line of engagement on it. As much as you and he should go look for scum rather than trying to read tea-leaves, I should go look for scum rather than berate you about it. :-)

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#1495 Post by BunnyGo » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:29 pm

Tom Bombadil wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:18 pm
Ffs peter. Jesus Christ.

You know why mass claims work. Because we could have towncleared ourselves without you fucking shooting me and wasting your shot and wasting my vest
Why does our vigilante always suck?

Doing stupid things and wasting all of towns powers. Gorram it. I don’t know why Peter is doing this, just because people are doing dumb things doesn’t mean you need to also.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#1496 Post by BunnyGo » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:30 pm

Tom Bombadil wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:21 pm
I’ll be back later. I don’t want to spew unpleasant things
Oooh. Oooh let me!! Here. Use this page for thematic swearing!

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#1497 Post by BunnyGo » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:32 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:25 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:21 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:41 pm


How, exactly, do the Reavers work?
No idea! Isn’t that fun!
There are lots of fun code breaking, puzzle solving, crypto-cracking games to play, but this is not one of them! This is a scum-hunting game.
Yeah... but I was hoping to find reaver prime before EON so they could be shot. Now there’s less urgency. jian ta de gui.

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#1498 Post by BunnyGo » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:33 pm

Well that was a fun catch up. Back to work.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#1499 Post by RagingIke297 » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:34 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:48 pm
##Call GM:

Does the Vig shot, if used at night, process at EoN?

If yes, perhaps the Doctor should save Tom from Peter's idiocy.
It does not, sorry for not getting to this earlier. It processes when received
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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#1500 Post by Chaqa » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:35 pm

ND wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:19 pm
There were two notable instances he made which really makes me strongly believe that Chaqa is scum.

1) "I’m always a VT, though. Seriously. Our of the 35ish games I’ve played. I think I’ve been aVt in like 30 or then or more" (Chaqa, 18)

This REALLY caught my eye. Here, we can see that Chaqa for a moment in his cockyiness let the facade drop. He is trying to seed and soft this notion. He is always a "VT". Why, the need to state this unless you are trying to plant an idea?

2) "Based on ND’s track record, this means I’m guaranteed town." (Chaqa, 48)

He spent a lot of time trying to seed the idea I was wrong about last game. That's part of his strategy. Discredit. He probably viewed me as the most likely person to catch him. However, anyone with a functioning browser can easily review the previous game. Still, if you look at his history this game you will see he spent a lot of time belittling me and capped it off with this.

This is not a huge amount of things to go on and on the surface, sure, he has been posting A LOT. Just because you post A LOT doesn't make you town though. A lot of what he has done is just regurgitate information already stated. Both of these instances lead me to believe that he set up a notion he is VT, claimed it, softed it and is now running with it. A lot of my reads with longstanding players is based on meta and my interactions with them. That's how I got Darg so easily last game. That's how we will get Chaqa this game.

I stand by it. Chaqa is absolute scum (and a moron)
You're really obsessed. It's unhealthy. Go outside. Talk to some people from different walks of life. And that orange skin tone... did you eat too many oranges, or is it jaundice from not enough?

"Softed it" - umm... I hardclaimed it, for the massclaim. Ages ago. Wat

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