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@Nurse and Watcher and Gunsmith - feel free to disregard this suggestion.

It's pointless both Nurse and Watcher visiting me on the same night.

I think nurse should visit me tonight, if they roleblock nurse and kill me then so be it. Watcher may want to watch if you think that scenerio is likely. I'm not super interested in receiving a gun, but will if you don't have another strong townread to hand it to.

Watcher should watch me N3 as the nurse can't. Gunsmith may choose to hand me the gun to clear him/herself in the eyes of the watcher.

N4 - Nurse to save me again. Another gun if that's allowed and GS doesn't have a better option.

N5 - watcher to watch me again. Final gun (assuming you gave one out N1).

@Gunsmith - assuming you have gunned someone already. If that is in the hands of mafia then you'll know who they are if I die. If you gun someone other than me and i die, you won't know which gun shot me for sure. Keep guns to a small pool is my advice.

I think you're all well hidden and doing a good job, stay hidden and make up your own minds. Don't feel you have to take my advice.

@COP - don't scan me. Save that for Tom

Yay, 2 down. Im sorry I havn't been more active. The sickness is making it hard for me to formulate clear sentences.

DemonRHK wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:04 am

@Fox: I realized I had tunneled Rj, and took my foot off his throat. By the time Maniac added him onto the lynch list at 13 minutes to end of day, I was focused on other things. Did I fuck up by not voting him? Hell yes. Does that change the fact I rode his ass so hard for a day and a half? Yes, you pushed him a ton, but don't act like you're the only person responsible. It takes more than one person, it's a group effort, even if I fell short in that respect.

You've been attacking me pretty hard all of D2. Do you have any direct questions you'd like me to answer?

Are we saying "pretty hard"? I mean... is that really the thought here?
Because the extent of my "pretty hard" attack is...

Page 50: "2) something is seeming off about DRHK."

Page 56: "I'm trying to figure out RHK. Something seems off", at which point Brain asks me what the case is, and I put some vague points and snippets up that caught my attention about DemonRHK (including the laughable "Maniac’s vote of DemonRHK is authentic, at least.")

And then to wrap up my "pretty hard" attack, on page 57: "I'm arguing that I find it odd that Balki and RHK whined about lurkers, but didn't take an opportunity to apply pressure votes. Maybe RHK didn't want to be associated with Jamiet, is the point."

But yes, I do have some questions for you, DemonRHK.

1) About 2 hours out, you were voting for Bozo (a pressure vote that had been sitting there for some time). Bozo shows up and puts some arguments out there, and you decide that's good enough, and put your vote on Vash without much of an explanation. You'd barely said anything about Vash, mostly calling him out for lurking, but also going so far as to say he gets some leeway (page 40) and then null read him at end of Night 1(page 44). At that point, Ezio, ND, Tom, and Rjm were leading with 2 votes, and there were also votes on Brain, Balki, Bozo, and Mean.

So why did you vote for Vash?

2) The scum-narrative for your EoD is that you didn't want to lynch the witch, and that with Rjm a competitive wagon, you had to find others to vote for, but with so many competitive wagons, it was hard to pick one to push that you could be sure would save the witch. So 32 minutes out, with Ezio, Tom, and Rjm tied at 3, you vote for Tom to put him in the lead. When the Tom wagon collapses, you go back to Vash--my guess is scum would worry that pushing a leading wagon even farther ahead would be more suspicious than going back to a vote you already had on record. Vash comes up, so you sit there, but in the final minutes, Rjm overtakes him, and you didn't really have any options, so you stuck it out.

What's your counter-narrative as town?

@Maniac: Are you asking what I was thinking during the last hour of D1? I was not available to be online for the last 2+ hours of D1.

Who here has played with thamrick before? Is he a softie like me?

He looks shitty D2, especially since he didn't vote rj - who he scumread all of D1. That being said, if he is a softie like me, he might not be scum. Rj was a brand new player to mafia, so you have to be particularily harsh (and brave consider you don't know how he will react) to bus a brand new player D1. I would be very reluctant to bus someone who is new to mafia and drew scum their first game.

Maniac you cant be killed period.

Nurse has zero reason to visit you.

As long as watcher watches you and gunsmith guns you scum wiuld have to.1 for 1 sac themself just to kill u

bo_sox48 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:21 am

Meme was in your list on page 68 as well as Maniac's list on page 67. Maybe you didn't have strong feelings about him, but you certainly had some feelings about him. Why did you not invest any time into him?

I did. I'll post my quick notes I jotted on Darg reread.

-Weird entry to the game - 5 mins no posts?
-Don't give out gun
-Wants guns in endgame when we "know things"
-Votes Yav - Brain voted first, then Jamie, then RHK, brain off, Darg on
-Immediately after Darg vote, Jamiet moves to Vashta

Meme hadn't posted other than to let the bot know he was alive. I was waiting to hear his thoughts on joining. But no. I didn't have strong feelings about him other than following Jamiet onto the Yav vote D1 then Jamiet immediately jumping off.

"@COP - don't scan me. Save that for Tom"

LOL

Thamrick was town neighbor in m19.
He was a 3rd party ghost in m20

Usually helpful to town. Never seen his scum meta

brainbomb wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:18 pm

Maniac you cant be killed period.

Nurse has zero reason to visit you.

As long as watcher watches you and gunsmith guns you scum wiuld have to.1 for 1 sac themself just to kill u

If nurse and watcher alternate then they can use their powers elsewhere if they want to. What I wanted to avoid is both thinking they need to visit in case the other one didn't.

Nurse should visit Maniac because he's just vanilla townie, so the rb doesn't matter.

Watcher should watch someone who scares scum, like me.

##CALL GM when do guns expire?

brainbomb wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:54 am

Good odds he left a scumbuddy off his,reads.

I agree. Here are the 6 he left off the list:

Balki Bartokomous
bo_sox48
MeanLaQueefa
rdrivera2005
reedeer1
thamrick

rdrivera and reedeer are kinda obvious. Tough to get a read on people that aren't playing. Doesn't mean we shouldn't look into them. He had a read on Ezio, Steve, and Darg. Why not these 2?

Balki, MLQ, and myself are weird omissions. Particularly me. I'll have to go back and find where he first started scumreading me, but I know I eventually became one of his scumreads. I had pushed him D1, planted a vote on him for most of the day.

I'm willing to bet there's at least one scum in Balki/MLQ. RJ had had too many interactions with and about MLQ omit her and Balki.

Bo hasn't contributed much, but what he has contributed has been more content heavy. More so that a lot on the list.

Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:43 pm

Watcher should watch someone who scares scum, like me.

Care to elaborate?

@BB - why did you immediately follow me onto RJ D1 only to spend the rest of the day defending him?

"Care to elaborate?"

I'm good at catching scum. I get NK'd alot. I've never been lynched in a mafia game.

##GM Note: Guns do not expire.

##GM Note: The Hooker may RB anyone they like.

Nurse should save maniac!

Hes right. Im.sorry my migraine was clogging my thinkin