Mafia XXXIV Game Thread - Who Framed Roger Rabbit?

[MeanLaQueefa]

Balki: "@MLQ, I'll answer questions like that after the flip, if I'm still around."

Can't help but feel you hope I'll die tonight after that. How you voted yesterday doesn't seem like a question that needs to wait, and you being ominous isn't helping my scum read of you. Especially since you listed vote analysis as one of the things we should concentrate on and wanted me to ask you questions so much yesterday.

[Hellenic Riot]

##GM Note: A reminder that all night actions should be messaged to both myself and RagingIke297, in case one of us is not around at EoN.

[Balki Bartokomous]

you all are sexist af

No, I'm just rereading roles because they're all different than I'm use to. Normally the witch is town aligned and can kill one person and save one person.

What is your experience with online mafia?

[brainbomb]

Hey Balki, are you around to talk a bit about how today went?

[brainbomb]

DemonRHK
Day-1 27:21
page 8 People have shown up! This makes me happy.

I think we should continue to talk about gun use, but I think addressing if brain is or isn't what he claims isn't effective use of our time, today.

Catching up from sleeping:

-I don't like Ezio. Yes, you can say it's OMGUS, but he straight anchored without content. Balki stated why he didn't like what I said and engaged me, reading the two votes on me world apart here.

This comes across very odd due to coming just short after:
You want to avoid his wrath. You anchored a vote on him for (admittedly even) no reason, then moved to brain before ND ever addressed your vote. That stinks of setting up votes so you look good later.

-Is new player buddying/mentoring still somewhat scummy? Because Maniac has done that twice on P5.

-On the same page, bozo feels the need to point out brain's previous play for meta reason to the new people, and this feels much less like actual advice and more for show.

-More yavu: His vote on brain is for wanting to lynch new players...right after he defended one. He's making incorrect sweeping generalizations.

-ND, Jamie, and Tham are all coming up with questions, and I'm liking what's being discussed.

I was going to do colors, but that could be a bad idea for some people. So I'll simply state:

Current Scumreads
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Yavu - Moderate
bozo - Minor

Current Townreads:
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Brain
Balki
Jamie
Tham

I wanna revisit this post from page 8

[Balki Bartokomous]

Hey Balki, are you around to talk a bit about how today went?

Sure.

[DemonRHK]

Specifically the part where I townread Jamie, at the time?

[brainbomb]

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Jamiet99uk
Day-1 00:21
page 25
I read Rdrivera,MeanlaQueeffa,DemobRHK, you and perhaps Brainbomb as Town.

I lean scum on Ezio, Balki, Rjcm, and ND.

I am suspicious of Bozo and SuperSteve.

Jamie mentions DemonRHK one time day 1. Its to chastise yavuz and say rivera and rhk were pressuring him.

I dont understand why Jamie would townread a viable counter wagon to himself/balki/ND. Rhk could easily have been shifted onto at EOD.

[brainbomb]

Hi Demon. Feel free also to post your thoughts. Let me know if this is just bad conf bias/wifom

[Balki Bartokomous]

Rhk could easily have been shifted onto at EOD.

I think you overstate this. I believe that a lot of people had town reads on DemonRHK. Why do you say that RHK could easily have been shifted onto?

[brainbomb]

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DemonRHK
Day-1 00:28
page 25 30 to EoD. Steve looks like a modkill. I'm going to consolidate onto Jamie, regardless that brain bailed it.

##Vote Jamie

Page 25 where the vote is found

After I leave voting Jamie to push vash, this happens.

Then Balki leaves.

Curious why you accuse me of bailing on Jamie, but dont feel Balki bailed too.

[DemonRHK]

I think I was too active for him to make a pass at, most everyone but yavu he went after were lurkers. Maybe he wanted towncred if I flipped. Hell I don't really know.

I read Jamie as town, and to be fair Jamie is one of a select few people I go into a game with a preset read on, but the lazy play just caused that read to slip away, along with his off normal reactions to you. I normally picture the two of you like siblings that don't get along, but he was doggedly against you at every turn, that's not like him.

Anyway, he's dead. We're ahead. There aren't a lot of people talking at night. Kinda makes me sad. Anyway, Jamie's flip and EoD paint Yavu pretty clear, Balki pretty clear, and ND partly/mostly clear (Unless 2 of the 3 wagons were scum, but that's unlikely on odds alone)

[brainbomb]

Balki the numbers were pretty tight. Ezio and Tom were on RHK and the lead wagons were 4's at one point. Id have to go back and look but when it was

Balki (4)
ND (4)
I think RHK was very much a possible chinese fire drill option. Sure a few ppl were townreading him, myself included, but that feels like an odd move for Jamie to tiwnread that slot. Jamie hardly had any reads at all.

Jamiet99uk
Day-1 04:46
page 19 Well first of all, you definitely are mistaken and I'd like you to look back and acknowledge that.

Second of all, I've explained why I accused Yav and Rdrivera of being connected - I wanted to see how Rdrivera would react - and his reaction made me townread him.

Is that all you got?


Jamiet99uk
Day-1 00:21
page 25
I read Rdrivera,MeanlaQueeffa,DemobRHK, you and perhaps Brainbomb as Town.

I lean scum on Ezio, Balki, Rjcm, and ND.

I am suspicious of Bozo and SuperSteve.

[DemonRHK]

I never accused, I just stated what happened. I did say anything about Balki because he moved off after I voted, you moved off before. Right before, actually.

[brainbomb]

The fact Jamie is scumreading BOTH counter wagons to himself is amusing.

Jamie was pretty cocky and undisciplined. He left alot of semi clears along the way for us to try to psychoanalyze.

Theres also a few people Jamie doesnt ever mention.
Jamie never once even says reedeer1.

Highly unusual. And perhaps the rabbit hole gets deeper if I start pondering vash as town, and Jamies desire to lynch vash was to protect reeder

[DemonRHK]

##CALL GM: Did we ever get a ruling on Steve?

[snowy801]

I say we lynch vash anyway but maybe that's just me

[brainbomb]

Ill just say that reedeer is different. I wasnt paying attention to him. But I dislike his play more than usual and it feels kinda slimy.

Reedeer first post to ever mention Jamie is when he votes him.

reedeer1
Day-1 00:03
page 27 Now I am thinking of the three top wagons, I do not like any of them, but of them I have strong town voting for jamit, so ##Vote jamit
(edit) Now I have a scum voting jamit..., but still best.

The message is a bit incoherent. I think he was saying a strong townread of his was voting jamie, so therefore he prefers lynching Jamie.

[brainbomb]

This last one is really weird.

reedeer1
Night-1 22:12
page 30 Mean seems to know more about mafia than a new player should. Did i miss something about who mean is? Is mean Wjessop back again to play mafia? wasn't it about a year ago that they got kicked out for a year? I could be entirely wrong about this, but mean is playing better than me (admittedly not hard), but that seems strange. This has no bearing on the mafia game.

Reedeer lynched a scum. A guy he had never even been scumreading.

But here states that Mean is too good, and is outplaying him.

Mean wasnt a Jamie voter... lol.

[bo_sox48]

Nice job on D1. I'll get around to reading it and what is coming on Tuesday evening, so before EOD2 I think. I don't know how much help I'll be until then.

Given Jamie's flip, I don't believe that Jamie would have ever wagoned onto me before I had ever posted if Foxcastle were his teammate. I'm reasonably confident without reading anything else that Foxcastle is town and it would take a near scumslip or some obvious evidence of coordination between the two on that vote to change my mind.